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B-36 Peacemaker Group Build

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Friday, November 15, 2013 7:00 PM

In my opinion, I think just a hollow area, painted black and then make a window using Model Master Window Maker would be the best solution. If the window is molded all the way through, the thickness of the plastic makes it difficult to glue in a window that looks flush. But, Chris didn't say which way he would go.

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Posted by lajntx on Friday, November 15, 2013 4:07 PM

Good news, I found the other kit I was going to build a couple years ago of this, and the fuselage has sat stored taped together which will elimnate the need to correct the warpage. I`ll switch over the wing spar, and use the warped fuselage to experiment with some painting to see how well a rattle can job can be done on this.

Ive found two different paints for the OD Green and I`ll use this to see which one I like better as well

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Friday, November 15, 2013 4:04 PM

Teutonic222

Here is the drawing I sent to Chris at Click2detail of the Featherweight III windows. Dimensions are really just best guesses using my ruler. The B-36 photo is a decent shot of the blister replacement window.

1 question.

The drawing shows the hole to where the opening would go for the window, but the window was flush with the fuselage contour. Are you having these built with the hole to install a clear piece, or just have the lines etched to show where the window is?

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Friday, November 15, 2013 2:56 PM

Here is the drawing I sent to Chris at Click2detail of the Featherweight III windows. Dimensions are really just best guesses using my ruler. The B-36 photo is a decent shot of the blister replacement window.

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:24 PM

God, that was painful. Following the directions in the forum photo pasting instruction doesn't work. Pasting BBCode directly into the rich formatting version without using the Insert Image did work. Soooo.

You have now seen my ISS & Shuttle model. Two more pics below.

As I originally said. It isn't a B-36, but does have five engines plus a bunch of thruster.

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:21 PM

Now we'll try it with BBCode.


20131108_165605 by mlundy, on Flickr

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:21 PM

This time I'll try pasting a slightly different code directly into the message.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/25391811@N02/10812384474/" title="20131108_165605 by mlundy, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3723/10812384474_f9d32bb996_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="20131108_165605"></a>

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:14 PM

What is up!! I am using rich formatting, selecting Insert Image. Copy URL from the specific photo (yes, I know how to do that). Paste URL in the Insert Image box. It place the text you see in my previous post (i.e. [View:http://s1012.photobucket...]. And I get the results above. It should be this hard.

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:12 PM

Okay. One more attempt at photo attachments. This time I'm using Photo Bucket.

[View:http://s1012.photobucket.com/user/mlundquist1/media/20131108_165605_zpsc3660b88.jpg.html?filters[user]=138233167&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0:600:0]

[View:http://s1012.photobucket.com/user/mlundquist1/media/20131108_165623_zps5ceb4568.jpg.html?filters[user]=138233167&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=2:600:0]

[View:http://s1012.photobucket.com/user/mlundquist1/media/20131108_165631_zps9204c352.jpg.html?filters[user]=138233167&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=1:600:0]

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:04 PM

Regarding fuselage warping, I got lucky. My kit looks nice and tight. I can pop the fuselage halves together and I don't see any gaps.

On a different note, is anyone else seeing large white gaps between some of these posts? I'm wondering if that is where my photos were supposed to be showing up, although those gaps didn't appear in my first two attempts at trying to post photos. I off for a few minutes to try PhotoBucket and see if that works. Otherwise I'd like to find out if there is a way to contact the forum moderator and find out what 's going on with my photo posts.

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:01 PM

Hello Magoo. Thanks for the idea. However I HAVE SUCCESS!

i just got an email from Chris at Click2detail. He is going to produce the Featherweight III blister windows and says he should have them in about 2 weeks for sale. That just saved a lot of work. Apparently, there is something personal about that aircraft and it was an easy design.

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:57 PM

Nope, I only use Duct tape.Embarrassed

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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Posted by lajntx on Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:12 PM

So tonight the process begins with re-enforcing the wing spar, and inspecting the fuselage for the usual warpage that goes along with being stuck in a box for 25 years.

Just about anything will work to re-enforce the spar, and I generally chose what I have about the house. In this case its #2 pencils which around here seem to multiply like rabbits. I first remove the erasers ( will re-use them much later after applying the shiny chrome paint to replicate aluminum to dull the paint down ), and then cut to them size to fit inside the spar. Finally liberally apply some sort of poxy to hold them in place.

Next moving on to the fuselage to asses the warpage. This kit is a prime example of the 3 places where some work will be needed to ensure a proper fit later on. The 3 places I have noticed that warpage tends to occur is:

The seem along the top of the fuseage between the wings and the tail

The seem along the bottom of the fuselage near the end

And finally:

The very front on both the top and bottom. This one isnt too bad, but it makes up for it in that if you notice the piece to the left of where the front turrent will be is bent in...... Hmm

Im going to dry fit both halves together tightly with some electrical tape and let that sit for a couple of weeks to bend those issues back into place. As for the bent item.... That will take a little more effort. 

Meanwhile, I`ll be starting on the cockpit decks and detailing those, as well as reshaping the prop tips to the curved look.

PS.... Who borrowed my electrical tape and didnt return it? Was it you Reasoned? 

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Andrew Magoo on Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:35 PM

Hi Teutonic 22, Look at my previous post where I cut out some blister plugs useing a .44 caliber empty cartridge case. As for shape try warming up some card stock and forming it over a piece of abs pipe that's close in diameter and once glued in place, sand to the fuselage contour.

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:59 AM

lajntx

troublemaker66

Hey Men!  I`ve been lurking around this thread for a while (mainly because I`m too chicken to start my own build) and you guys are doing some great work on a tough kit. 

About "prop blurr"....I remember seeing a PE version of them somewhere.....anyone else? 

Len

Well hello stranger, LTNS!

The build I am going to do first is a basic build... No elaborate stuff, no elaborate painting, or major mods. Hopefully that will encourage some that a "good build" can still be made with this kit without trying to make it a blue ribbon show piece at the local builders meet. 

Grab a kit and join in.... If you cant find one..... I`ll send you one for just the shipping cost

There, now you have no excuses. Stick out tongue

Oh I have a kit, just no house to build it in...Big Smile In the process of building a new house, actually it`s a modular, but once it`s done I will have my very own hobby room...more like a hobby closet....off of the master bedroom. The house is being installed on pilings, which will give me the option to enclose them and make a basement/garage, which will become my hobbyshop! Can`t wait....Yes

Len

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Posted by lajntx on Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:29 AM

troublemaker66

Hey Men!  I`ve been lurking around this thread for a while (mainly because I`m too chicken to start my own build) and you guys are doing some great work on a tough kit. 

About "prop blurr"....I remember seeing a PE version of them somewhere.....anyone else? 

Len

Well hello stranger, LTNS!

The build I am going to do first is a basic build... No elaborate stuff, no elaborate painting, or major mods. Hopefully that will encourage some that a "good build" can still be made with this kit without trying to make it a blue ribbon show piece at the local builders meet. 

Grab a kit and join in.... If you cant find one..... I`ll send you one for just the shipping cost

There, now you have no excuses. Stick out tongue

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:25 AM

troublemaker66

Teutonic222

Hello Troublemaker. I think you are talking about PropBlur. Just Google the name "PropBlur" and it will come up.

Ok....thought there were 2 types...plastic and PE....will look it up...thanks

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! PE! Count me in!

That will put some BANG! in your build!

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:18 AM

Teutonic222

Hello Troublemaker. I think you are talking about PropBlur. Just Google the name "PropBlur" and it will come up.

Ok....thought there were 2 types...plastic and PE....will look it up...thanks

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:13 AM

Regarding Featherweight windows, I've contemplated pushing Sculpey Clay through the blister ports to extrude the proper size diameter, slicing it off and smoothing the top to match the fuselage contour, then pressing a piece of wood or plastic into the clay to indent a window. Bake as directed. Add frosting and eat. Serves four. Oh, woops. Bake, sand and paint. Then add Model Master Window Maker.

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:10 AM

Hello Troublemaker. I think you are talking about PropBlur. Just Google the name "PropBlur" and it will come up.

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:57 AM

Hey Men!  I`ve been lurking around this thread for a while (mainly because I`m too chicken to start my own build) and you guys are doing some great work on a tough kit. 

About "prop blurr"....I remember seeing a PE version of them somewhere.....anyone else? 

Len

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by lajntx on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:42 PM

Reasoned

Say la, that Ju 88 next to the B-36 just shows why Germany had to fly so many sorties during the BoB to do much damage.

Do much damage? They had a hard time getting through in the first place.... When they did..... They inflicted little more damage than a "scratch" Stick out tongue

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:32 PM

Reasoned

Say la, that Ju 88 next to the B-36 just shows why Germany had to fly so many sorties during the BoB to do much damage.  I wonder how many Ju 88's it took to match the payload of one B-36?

Well, lets see......

B-36
 
Later Productions: Maximum payload of 33,000 kg (73,000 lb)
 
JU-88
 
The later & the best models could carry  two 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) bombs, one under each inner wing panel
 
73,000 lbs vs 4400 lbs
 
Roughly 16.5 Fully loaded "properly" functioning late model JU-88`s to 1 B-36 Bomber at full capacity

Here is a picture from the online Jacobsen book showing how the B-36A compared to American WWII bombers:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52188705/Convair-B-36-Peacemaker-a-Photo-Chronicle


B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:16 PM

Say la, that Ju 88 next to the B-36 just shows why Germany had to fly so many sorties during the BoB to do much damage.  I wonder how many Ju 88's it took to match the payload of one B-36?

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by lajntx on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:15 PM

Teutonic222

Has anyone tried to make the Featherweight III blister window replacements?

Outside of having Chris make them.....

Using a thicker grade poster board, or hand carving them out of some sort of soft material is about as far as my thinking takes me.

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:07 PM

Teutonic222

I agree. I'm already abandoning that idea. Plus, I don't think there is a clean way of opening the other landing gear bay door (the one that closes once the gear is down). If I can't open that bay (which is currently molded), no one would see the crew man inside the wing kicking the gear down anyway. Ah, to dream.

I`m sure it could be done, you might have to use the cut out part as a mold for a cast to make your own door.

Watch this video of the door in question ( starting at 4:08 ) how it operates on landing gear retraction after take off. It might give you some ideas:

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:06 PM

Seems okay.  As I said, I use a Mac and just "drag" the picture (in the large 1028 format) from Flickr into the "image url box" by keeping both windows open, not sure why you're having problems.

BTW, I'm building mine wheels down in flight also (so I can hang it from my son's BR ceiling) but I think I'm just going to leave the props as is.

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:00 PM

Wow Teut, it's been a while since I posted a pic from my Flickr Acct, let me try again as I explained and see if it works…..

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:48 PM

Has anyone tried to make the Featherweight III blister window replacements?

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Posted by Teutonic222 on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:47 PM

I'm stumped about the photo pasting. I'm a computer power user and I am still not understanding why this doesn't work. I haven't tried Photo Bucket yet, only because I didn't need yet another account for something. I figured since some of you have good experience with Flickr it should work. Guess I'll try Photo Bucket tomorrow when I less inclined to throw a rock at my computer right now.

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