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Posted by Andrew Magoo on Thursday, March 8, 2012 11:48 PM

Hi, well I would say I'm pretty much set on building a Ficon unit. 15 or 20 years ago I bought a RF-84(?) just for this reason, with the camera nose and air intakes in the wings. However I haven't decided if I'm going to have the B-36 sitting on its landing gear or have the landing gear stowed. I had read that the RF-84 when locked into the bomb bay was in the way for the landing gear to cycle so I have a decision to make so far all my planes sit on their landing gear. I never got to build it nor have I done very much modeling for 10 years (life got complicated) but I'm now getting back to something normal. I also, last year, purchased a 1/72 YB-60 conversion kit from Mike Herrill which will eliminate a lot of work (I hope). With that said I still want to find someone who is an electronics whiz; because of their size in 1/72 I'd like to stick lights and motors in the prop jobs. The kicker is I want the motors to turn slow like the big R-4360s would when starting (one at a time) let them run like they are Idling during warm up then all speed up to full power. The problem is to pulse-width the current to the motors so they will accomplish that feat. The electric motors would have to be geared down because i think I remember reading that the R-4360s rev-limit was 2,000 rpm; I’m going to guess that would translate to propeller rpm as well. Any ideas? Magoo

 

 

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Posted by lajntx on Thursday, March 8, 2012 11:11 PM

Here is some more FICON info:

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLCjnK_cik

 

Where to pick up a F-84 in 1/72 scale cheap:

NOTE: be sure to get the swept wings version model F so it can be updated to the  RF-84K

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=F-84+1%2F72&_sacat=0&_odkw=F-84&_osacat=0&_from=R40

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:41 AM

Andrew Magoo

Thanks or the referance goodies. I had no idea that thew B-36 was slated as the launxch platform for the X-15; fact is stranger than fiction. Magoo

 

Yes it is, I am considering doing that conversion myself at some point in the future.... and I stress the future part as I have 4 B-36 builds that have all ready to go into production, but until I replace a job that thinks I should work 60-70 hours a week will have to wait - for now.

If you are are dead set on a FICON build, but sure to get a copy of this:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0615253296?tag=goletaairspacemu&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0615253296&adid=0S3WT0NET4MSTAPMHTPK&&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.air-and-space.com%2Fb-36%2520diagrams.htm

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On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Andrew Magoo on Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:18 AM

Thanks or the referance goodies. I had no idea that thew B-36 was slated as the launxch platform for the X-15; fact is stranger than fiction. Magoo

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Posted by lajntx on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:37 PM

Andrew Magoo

Hi, I haven't started anything yet but I have one B-36 that was built 26 years ago and it has suffered from a few bumps, bangs, and too much heat. I'm thinking of using it for the YB-60 conversion. I have two unassembled kits one of these will be a B-36/Ficon and the other one will be a B-36H from the 28th BW out of Ellsworth AFB Rapid City, SD. I guess I could start on all three at once but that would cover a lot of space just to assemble them. Magoo

 

Hi Andrew,

Converting a kit to a B-60 requires A LOT of cutting on the wings. I dont think that would be an easy task on an already built model. If you are persistant on doing the B-60 be sure to get ahold of a copy of Warbird Tech`s Convair B-36 Peacemaker as it shows you where to make your wing splice lines and gives you the correct degrees. .

The FICON is a challenging project, but it has been done several times. Hobbycraft of course had their 1:144 kit of the FICON that pops up every now & then on ebay for around $40

Here are some builds with all the technical stuff you will need for  scratch build in 1/72 scale:

However, if you are a true glutton for that kind of punishment and enjoy repeating: " Thank you Sir! -May I have another one? "  might I suggest doing something that I`m not aware of nobody else doing....
The proposed  B-36 Mothership for the XB-15 test flight program
excerpt:
When the X-15 was being developed, it was first assumed that the mother plane for the X-15 would be the Convair B-36 Peacemaker, which was then in service with the Air Force. The X-15 would have been mounted in the bomb bay of the B-36 in a fashion similar to the mounting of the X-1 and X-2 vehicles in B-29 and B-50 Superfortresses. The performance of the B-36 would have allowed the X-15 to be launched at an altitude of 35,000 feet and mach 0.7. In mid-1957, NASA directed North American Aviation to change the mother plane from the B-36 Peacemaker to the B-52 Stratofortress. It had been realized that the B-36 was going to be phased out of service at about the time that the X-15 began flying. Spare parts would become difficult to come by and the prospect of maintaining a single Peacemaker long after the type had been retired was daunting.

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Andrew Magoo on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:03 PM

Hi, I haven't started anything yet but I have one B-36 that was built 26 years ago and it has suffered from a few bumps, bangs, and too much heat. I'm thinking of using it for the YB-60 conversion. I have two unassembled kits one of these will be a B-36/Ficon and the other one will be a B-36H from the 28th BW out of Ellsworth AFB Rapid City, SD. I guess I could start on all three at once but that would cover a lot of space just to assemble them. Magoo

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Posted by lajntx on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:29 PM

Reasoned

 

To be honest I know so little about the B-36 that I couldn't offer an opinion of markings.  I learned most of what I know from reading your posts and plan on doing more homework when I finally crack the box open (after I finish this Val I'm working on).  I will say that it's disappointing that Revellogram will not include the walkway stripes, that's a HUGE issue.

 

If I remember right you took the easy way out on the sale spruce brothers was having. lol

Here is the same build that had the great cockpit detail..... notice how that guy put his walkway stripes on.... Now that`s talent!

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/message/1324147713/Monogram+B-36+Peacemaker+1-72+Scale

Dont worry about not starting... Between a 60 hour work week, and looking for another job with the time I do get off... I dont have much time for building right now myself

 

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:19 PM

Its never too late to join as this is a GB with no official end date.  It can be any version of a B-36 in any scale..

So tell us more about your build?

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On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:12 PM

lajntx

 

So the question is.... Should Revell-Monogram release a new B-36 kit in the future what B-36H/RB-36Fdecal combo would you as the consumer like to see?

To be honest I know so little about the B-36 that I couldn't offer an opinion of markings.  I learned most of what I know from reading your posts and plan on doing more homework when I finally crack the box open (after I finish this Val I'm working on).  I will say that it's disappointing that Revellogram will not include the walkway stripes, that's a HUGE issue.

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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Posted by Andrew Magoo on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:52 PM

Hi All,

Although I didb't join the build group 01 Dec, is it too late to start? Is a YB-60 or B-36/Ficon a concideration for a modified B-36? Magoo

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Posted by lajntx on Thursday, March 1, 2012 1:27 AM

FYI....

Ive located a new source on Youtube for Convair B-36 Peacemaker  that has the 48 minute show in its entirety. I have changed the link on the Video listings on page 1, and also added the link for Strategic Air Command as well on there. If you have real player, now you will be able to download both and burn your own personal CD/DVD of those.

How to Download Youtube Videos using RealPlayer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExvQsFMJla4&feature=related

Free download of real player:

http://www.real.com/realplayer

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On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:21 PM

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to share this.

Today I had the chance to converse with someone "high up" at Revell-Monogram concerning the B-36 kit. According to them, the company is "thinking" about doing another release of the kit due to the faster than expected depletion of the 2008 kit from inventory. Again the key word here is the company is thinking about doing a new release, so nothing is definate.

I did learn that:

1.  There would be no planned changes to the kit casting wise so the kit would be the same as every other kit since the 1980 kit that preceeeded it.... With all the same issues.

2. The new kit would NOT have the walkway stripes like the `02 Revell-Germany kit did due to extra production costs and to avoid any potential domestic copyright issues with third party vendors.

3. It would have new box art with a new set of decals to build a different RB or bomber verision than the previous kits, and they certainly are open to suggestions. So long as it would represent the B-36H/RB-36F the kit is representative of.

I suggested some sort of build that offered both  the 95th BW with large black  US AIR FORCE fuselage markings so the builder could modify the build to be either of  the B-36 J`s presently at PIMA or the Air Force Museum. And as the RB verision... a  72d Strategic Reconnaissance Wing RB-36F stationed at Ramey AFB.

Also I suggested offering a supplemental sheet of common markings no found on the Warbirds sheet: Emergency exits, Serial plates, Serial Stencils,  air plug indicators, etc.. Or have such a sheet subcontracted out to a third party.

I did mention this GB, and that I would open up the discussion to others whom could give some input as to the specific decal options they would like to see, and they did indicate that they would watch this and welcome any input.

So the question is.... Should Revell-Monogram release a new B-36 kit in the future what B-36H/RB-36Fdecal combo would you as the consumer like to see?

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:36 PM

Working on mine some but have to be patient to get it the way I want.  But there are also other distractions as everyone else does except that darn Fermis.

John

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Posted by lajntx on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:04 AM

All`s quiet on the western front eh? Stick out tongue

No progress to report on my end.... other that working 60-70 hours a week right now due to my employer being to "cheap" to hire new help.

However, I do have a good gem of info to pass along. Strategic Air Command has been uploaded to youtube in its entirity and is available for a free view. Be aware that it is a 2 hour video and for those not on high speed it might be impossible to wartch

For those that have been wanting to see it, but cant find it due to its limited availability... Bon Appetit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faztvu3w5AM&feature=related

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On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:51 PM

Since we are all apparently hitting "builders block". Here is something from B-36 history lore to break the monotony

from:

http://www.7bwb-36assn.org/reflect.html

The " BUZZ JOB"

Quite often, the B-36 would be called upon to demonstrate how quickly it could get off the ground, especially when loaded with a minimum amount of fuel. On a Sunday afternoon in October 1954 a group of firemen were having a convention in town and were on a tour of the Base. In order for a person to draw his flight pay he was required to fly at least fours a month, and 100 hours each year. Thad Neal's crew was scheduled for a two or three week leave in October, so in order to get in the required flying time this pilot proficiency mission was set up for the crew. I believe it was on a Sunday afternoon.

Before leaving home for the Base that morning, Thad called and told me to have Rin (my wife) standing by with the movie camera. I knew he had visitors and that he wanted them to get a good look at the plane, so I expected that it would be a low flyover but had no idea just how low he planned on making it.

The visiting firemen were on the ramp at the time of our take off so Thad was directed to make a maximum performance takeoff and then come around with the low pass over. With a minimum fuel load the B-36 really got off the ground in a hurry. We taxied onto the runway heading south and set the brakes. Thad called for full power on the six recips and four jet engines. That old bird started to stutter and seemed to skid until the brakes were released. I don't think we used a thousand feet of runway before breaking ground. We leveled off at four thousand and headed to the north end of Eagle Mountain Lake at 4,000' before turning south and heading for the north end of the runway. When over Eagle Mountain Lake the plane turned south. With "six turning and four burning" the plane headed directly for the north end of the runway. In a shallow dive with full power the plane skimmed down the runway at almost no altitude. I don't know how fast we were going but it had to be at least 180 mph. Thad kept right on the deck for the whole length of the runway. I was sitting in the glass nose and had a good view. The operators in the GCA shack along side the runway took a dive for the ground as the plane approached with the props almost ticking the concrete.

Thad had originally planned on flying directly over his house. Between the Base and West Ridglea the ground rises maybe a hundred feet so. Thad could not get a true bead on his house from the low altitude so he flew down the road where Ridgmar Mall sits today. Climbing over the small ridge he soon spotted his house just a wee bit off to the left. Still following the terrain he pushed the nose down a bit again but did not dare to drop the wing in a turn. After crossing he ridge, the land gradually gets lower until it reaches Mary's Creek. We stayed on the deck all the way and then part way down highway 377. Then we climbed back to altitude and my log book show we flew for six hours.

Trinka was in her front yard filming the approach, until frightened, when she dropped the camera. Rin had heard us takeoff so she got our camera and sat on the back porch to wait for the next event. It came so fast and caught her by surprise so that all she could do was step off the porch and shoot between the two houses. She did get a short blip of film as we passed about a block away. She did run out front and got a few feet as we few down the hill to the Creek, then she went in the house and poured herself a stiff drink.

As we flew down the highway I recall seeing cars stop and people head for the ditches. Several years later I was telling this story to some co-workers at General Dynamics and one man told me that he was one of those that had sought shelter in a ditch.

We landed and went home to prepare for our vacation not realizing the furor that was going on in Headquarters. One man had called in demanding that his TV antenna be returned. He claimed that a jet pod had removed it from his roof. One character even claimed that the jet exhaust had set fire to a phone pole. There were claims about cracked plaster and pictures that had fallen from the walls.

There was such a fuss raised that General Jack Ryan the 19thAD CO had to take some action. Early the following morning before we could get away, Thad called and said not to leave. General Ryan wanted to talk with all of us. We met at his office and one by one had to go in to give our version of the whole episode. When it was all over he had to fine Thad. I believe it was for $250.00 and he was taken off the promotion list for a couple of years, but as he left the General's office, General Ryan told Thad that was the best buzz job he had ever heard of. It didn't hurt his career either. He would serve as a Commander at Wichita Falls, and then in the Pentagon before going to Florida. He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel.

Thad was killed in a crash in the early 60's while training in C-123's in Florida. The training was preparing him for duty in Viet Nam, defoliation, I think they called it. In the middle of a low altitude turn he lost an engine and went down.

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For those that need video of the perhaps the most awesome aeronautical event since kitty hawk:

Just image how hard the houses and ground rumbled Big Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCViKu9XlbQ&feature=related

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by lajntx on Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:39 PM

Reasoned

Thanks again for the link, looks like he used medium green and not Zinc Chromate.

No problem, if you still need those pics let me know.. they are the same ones found in the color section of B-36 Peacemaker Detail & Scale

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On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Reasoned on Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:53 PM

Thanks again for the link, looks like he used medium green and not Zinc Chromate.

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Posted by lajntx on Friday, February 10, 2012 7:10 PM

[quote user="Reasoned"

Looking great! Yes  BTW, what color is the interior of the B-36?  I'm so used to using Green Chromate for WWII a/c I haven't researched this one yet.

[/quote]

 

Reasoned,

Here is a vid of the B-36 at PIMA showing the interior work that was done here in Ft Worth before the NMAF repossesd the plane and sent it to PIMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCu9MEwcaCQ&feature=related

If you want some color photos, send me a private message with your email address and I`ll send those over as I cant post them in a public forum due to request by the copyright owner.

If you want to see perhaps the best ever job on a cockpit interior detail on a 1/72 build take a look at this build

http://lafayettescalemodelers.ning.com/forum/topics/b-36-peacemaker-monogram-1-72

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, February 10, 2012 6:49 PM

jeaton01

 

I did the cockpit assembly and painting, which I find is also best done in a different order.  The seats and instrument panel can be installed after the fuselage is closed up, which will prevent knocking them loose as they stick up a bit.  I don't like to assemble the canopy to the airplane at this point, there is still too much opportunity to get dust and plastic particles in to that area, and fitting the nose cannon parts will be done later in my build order, in order to refine its shape and fit.  The instrument panel really can not be fit properly until the fuselage is together anyway.  The cockpit is for the H and J versions, the flight engineers station would have to be placed to face the right side of the cockpit on earlier types instead of to the rear as on the H and J.  In order to get the best fit, I placed the lower floor assembly in to the fuselage halves and then glued it only to the left side, and then I did the same for the upper cockpit section.  Some sanding of various edges was necessary to get everything to fit, but after a few iterations I was able to get everything arranged nicely and the fuselage halves closed up without any interference or undue force.  I hate it when seams pop two weeks after you think all is well on a finished build!

I think the stock cockpit with decal panels is fine for the scale.  I may do a little more weathering later on but this thing is so big it will be difficult to get close enough to it to see in there through the transparencies.

http://yolo.net/~jeaton/mymodels/b36/1b36/0161b36.jpg

http://yolo.net/~jeaton/mymodels/b36/1b36/0191b36.jpg

 

 

 

Looking great! Yes  BTW, what color is the interior of the B-36?  I'm so used to using Green Chromate for WWII a/c I haven't researched this one yet.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, February 9, 2012 11:32 PM

Just have more cleanup to do.  The trusses are not glued in yet either.  Then it will be green and open!

John

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Posted by lajntx on Thursday, February 9, 2012 12:19 PM

Great job Jeaton!

You bring up an interesting point with the build error on the props by the manufacturer calling for installing them before attaching them to the fuselage. Chalk it up to making the kit easy for the less enthused. In order to get them in properly ( and able to spin ) you have to have the sub assemblies built into the wing before gluing the two halves together.. which unfortunately means putting them together before attaching the wing to the fuselage and setting the builder up for the high probability of breaking the blades and causing uneeded interference/masking when it comes time to paint and apply decals later in the build.

In addition to Jeaton`s method there are several different other ideas around on the net on how to address this issue. They all offer different approaches to the method offered by Wayne Wachsmuth in B-36 Peacmaker in Detail & Scale on p.68

I noticed on your build that you didnt paint the bomb bay green. Does that mean you are going to do a closed door build?

 

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:14 PM

Yeah, that was a bad day for the Air Force, wasn't it! 

More work on my B-36.  I wasn't happy with having to install the prop hubs so early in the build so I modified them.  I first assembled the hubs and the attaching parts.  Then I ground off the flanges on the inner non-turning axle.  I did it in that order to make sure I got the axles glued to the retaining bulkheads at the correct depth.  Next I drilled the centers of the axles and made plastic washers so I could install screws to replace the flanges I had ground off.  This allows me to install the prop hubs at the final assembly point and I can detail paint the aft cowl area and hubs at that time.

I did the cockpit assembly and painting, which I find is also best done in a different order.  The seats and instrument panel can be installed after the fuselage is closed up, which will prevent knocking them loose as they stick up a bit.  I don't like to assemble the canopy to the airplane at this point, there is still too much opportunity to get dust and plastic particles in to that area, and fitting the nose cannon parts will be done later in my build order, in order to refine its shape and fit.  The instrument panel really can not be fit properly until the fuselage is together anyway.  The cockpit is for the H and J versions, the flight engineers station would have to be placed to face the right side of the cockpit on earlier types instead of to the rear as on the H and J.  In order to get the best fit, I placed the lower floor assembly in to the fuselage halves and then glued it only to the left side, and then I did the same for the upper cockpit section.  Some sanding of various edges was necessary to get everything to fit, but after a few iterations I was able to get everything arranged nicely and the fuselage halves closed up without any interference or undue force.  I hate it when seams pop two weeks after you think all is well on a finished build!

I think the stock cockpit with decal panels is fine for the scale.  I may do a little more weathering later on but this thing is so big it will be difficult to get close enough to it to see in there through the transparencies.

I closed up the fuselage after installing the tail turret, sighting parts and interior bulkheads.  I spent several sessions gluing all the seams.  There was slight warping so I used various clamps to keep things in shape as the glue dried.  The silver plastic is rather hard and I did the first pass of cleanup with the back side of a #11 blade, scraping fore and aft to level the seams.  After sanding with 320, 600, and 800 sanding sticks I could see some areas that needed some fill, and I used thin CA to fill those, and re-sanded.  One area on the nose needed an application of cement to get rid of the last evidence, I don't want to see a seam right in front of the cockpit!

I made a sanding bar from a piece of 1 1/2 inch black plastic pipe and sanded the inside faces of the loose wing roots to the contour of the fuselage, and fit them to the spar , with the wing panels assembled to the center section,  upside down over over a wing plan view scaled up from the kit painting instructions to keep everything straight and to establish the proper dihedral.

I reinstalled the wing roots.  The truss fits fine with the wing spar in the lower position, no trimming was needed there. Super glue and thin Testors glue, as well as plasticard shims were used here, taking care to keep things as clean as possible in the bomb bay area.  The next adventure will be filling and sanding the wing fuselage intersection area.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by lajntx on Sunday, February 5, 2012 9:29 PM

jeaton01

Ouch!

 

If you think that hurt, try this one:

The Tornado that made the flight line at Carswell AFB ground zero on 01 SEP 52

http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/tornado/tornado.htm

excerpt:

" On Labor Day, Monday, September 1, 1952, the 7th and 11th Bomb Wing's fleets of bombers were parked at Carswell AFB. At 6:42 P.M. a tornado made a direct hit on the base and scattered the huge planes like they were empty milk cartons. Thankfully, most base personnel were off-base for the long Labor Day weekend and those who reported for work the next day were turned away by base security due to fear of a major fire from thousands of gallons of avgas spilled from ruptured fuel tanks. Flight operations were hurriedly transferred to other military bases and to nearby Meacham Field.

Approximately two-thirds of our bomber fleet was incapacitated that day, not by enemy action, but by a windstorm. Most of the planes were repaired and flying again in less than five weeks. "

Some pictures from my collection and others of the aftermath:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, February 5, 2012 12:55 AM

Ouch!

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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    September 2011
  • From: North Texas
Posted by lajntx on Saturday, February 4, 2012 10:49 PM

jeaton01

I think it will be fine, the spar in the kit ties the wing together pretty well.

 

Hmm

 

 

 

Whistling

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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    September 2011
  • From: North Texas
Posted by lajntx on Friday, February 3, 2012 5:29 PM

Reasoned

this kit

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/lajntx/KGrHqEOKpQE6RgYTowlBOkky78Bg_121.jpg

Last night while working on Reasoned `s questions concerning the 2008 Monogram kit, I took mine out of the closet that I will be using on my upcoming YB-36 build in which I plan to backdate it to what it looked like when it came fresh out of the factory using the 1/72 YB-36 Conversion kit with original 110" landing gear form Click2detail.com

http://click2detail.com/products-details.php?pro_id=243

 

 

 

Anyways I noticed the fuselage seemed to have a little more warpage than one would come to expect - esp on the upper part. It probably was just my kit and the way it was handled/transported/stored, but anyone with an `08 kit might want to take the fuselage halves out and ensure they dry fit resonably well . Also the left upper left wing where it would connect to the fuselage had noticable warpage on my kit.

I went ahead and dry fit mine and tightly taped together the areas needing counter pressure with electrical tape. Hopefully being stored in this fashion will eliminate most of the warpage when it comes time to build.

Here are a few pics:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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    September 2011
  • From: North Texas
Posted by lajntx on Friday, February 3, 2012 11:53 AM

Hopefully I`m wrong, but I think both you and I are in the same boat, and need to find someone with an ALPS printer that can print some professional grade decals.

http://www.strategic-air-command.com/aircraft/b-36/b36-deployment.htm

One of the builds I am going to do ( someday ) is the last Peacemaker which is currently on display at PIMA and was assigned to the 95th BW at Biggs AFB in ElPaso.

http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/last_one.htm

http://pimaair.org/collection-detail.php?cid=58

Ive seen the 95th decal in every possible scale but 1/72 & the size in which I need it.

I took this hi res picture:

and made this:

 

 

The only thing I need do now is find that elusive ALPS printer owner whom can print me a sheet of those in about the size of a US Dime. If anyone knows such a person please have them contact me: johntrago@gmail.com

Thanks!

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

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    November 2009
  • From: Kathleen GA / Robins AFB
Posted by iafrate on Friday, February 3, 2012 10:50 AM

SInce we are on the subject of B-36 building, has anyone seen decals for the 72nd Bomb Wing at Ramey? I've seen virtually about every other base other than Ramey.

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    September 2011
  • From: North Texas
Posted by lajntx on Friday, February 3, 2012 10:25 AM

Reasoned

Fantastic! You are Da Peacemaker Man! Wink

I wouldn't go that far with it. I just live in an area where these were built so I have access to a lot of info from documents & people, have working relations with many of the book authors, have made contact with many of the model component producers, etc

And to think it was an undergraduate history project that go me started in this because it had to be something that was " World historic with local ties". lol

BTW- If you cant take your family to California to see the plane, you could always have some time with your younger son by watching " Strategic Air Command"... Or you could just show him this clip....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGjyH2ulsCk

B-36 Peacemaker Builds 

On the Bench: B-36 paint test  fusealge & RB-36E assembly test build

In Que: YB-36 Conversion Build & B-36 carries B-58 Airframe to Wright Patterson

Conceptual Planning: RB-36 X-15 Mothership

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Bent River, IA
Posted by Reasoned on Friday, February 3, 2012 10:03 AM

Fantastic! You are Da Peacemaker Man! Wink

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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