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The unOFFICIAL 2011/20012 Veteran's Group Build

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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:29 PM

Huh...don't think I can come up with 5 builds! Other than a couple of HMMWWV variants and a deuce and a half, they don't make kits of what I used. Unless someone makes a 1/35 scale desk set I'm not aware of...Stick out tongue

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:12 PM

Yeah Jump school is not that hard PT wise or thinking wise... the biggest thing is that it's a gut check. If you don't have it in you to step out the door... You only gotta do it 5 times to get the wings... but to keep that maroon beret meant doing it again and again, pushing the odds...Black Eye

OK now back to our regularly scheduled GB due to commence in less than 36 hours for youse guys back east...

I have the GB participation badges posted on the front page. You can all thank Slusher for his work  there and coming up with badges to commemorate up to six completed builds here!!! Toast

Rob, your builds have been added to the manifest on page one.

We still need floaters and flyers here gents. The only things I floated in were rubber boats, a 113 in Victory Pond ( I think...Hmm) and some Coastie Boston Whalers... too bad there is no 1/35 kit of those... an E ticket ride for a midnite amphibious insertion.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by RESlusher on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:21 PM

I had a back problem that kept me out of jump school...a big, yellow stripe running down it!  Whistling

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:28 PM

I've decided on a couple of builds, one is an old in-progress Academy M998 HMMWV that I bought and started in the summer of 1996. I bought it while on TDY at Maxwell AFB in Alabama and worked on it a bit while I was there. I placed it back into the box and it hasn't seen the light of day until late this summer when I ran across it again. I planned on building it to represent my HMMWV I had while assigned to my first staff officer job, the Battalion Maintenance officer for 1-12 Cav.

The second build is an old Tamiya M2 Bradley I started while in college in 1987 awaiting orders to report to active duty. It's about 1/3 started and sat in a box for a very long time and was one of the kits I collected from my parents house before they retired and headed south for Florida. It is similar to the Bradleys I trained on later that year at my Armor Officer Basic course at Fort Knox.

Airborne school was a blast. I went rather late in life during the summer of 1991. Having just returned from a fun filled vacation in sand and sun, I was allowed to go to Benning before my Armor Office Advance Course began. I was a first lieutenant with a 1st Cav combat patch and crossed sabers on the other collar. The black hats left me alone and picked on the "slick sleeves".

We had a bunch of military medical students in my platoon, all with the rank of second lieutenant or ensign (depending on their service branch), who were attending airborne school as some sort of reward for being tops in their medical school class in acedemics and PT. They all kept calling me "sir" and saluting me. It was rather annoying, but they got all the cr*ppy leadership tasks and all I had to take care of was myself.

It was the easiest military school I've ever attended, although, it started in mid-July and ended like the second or third of August. Definitely not the ideal time of the year to be playing outdoors in Georgia. You could never stop sweating, even during those torrential downpours which helped wash the sand and sawdust off of us.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:10 PM

You may feel that way now... but on some of those rides, you are more than happy to get out before the bird is back on the ground because of the ride up to the time you get out...Ick!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by RESlusher on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:19 PM

With all due respect to my airborne and air assault brethren, that aircraft was on the ground when I got on it...it'll be on the ground when I get off it!  Big Smile

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:15 PM

Well I dont think membership in the CAF requires an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..."Wink But yes you are probably the "youngest" WWII aircraft rated aircrewman here...Toast

and IIRC you got some of these too, so a C-130, C-141, and possibly other types such as the UH-1, CH-47, and UH-60 enter as build possibilities

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:35 AM

Lots of ground stuff here so far... Yeswhere's our flying and sailing things?Whistling

Depends on how "loose" you want to be with the rules that define the build's parameters..

TECHNICALLY, I could say I served on a B-29 and B-24... I was on the CAF B-29 "Fifi" as a flight-crew member (Top Scanner/APU Operator), and also had flight-status on the B-24...  After leaving the unit, I joined the Great Plains Wing, where I currently have "Start-Run-Up" and "Taxi" tickets for the P-51, L-19, and L-5... I am a veteran, and was still on Active Duty during my crew-time with "FiFi".. Made 148 bomb-runs in her too..

So.. Other than BondoDad, I got the closest thing to "WW2 Aircraft Veteran-Creds", lol...

Propeller

Or, I could just build a Blackhawk...

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, November 21, 2011 11:32 AM

Coulda been worse!  A drinkin' buddy of mine called one of his instructors at DLI a "freakin' nazi" and they made him a turret mechanic! 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by dupes on Monday, November 21, 2011 11:25 AM

Well, I started out as a 98G - turns out my Korean was bad enough and my analyst skills were good enough (I think they still teach my method of a certain code-breaking skillset in AIT) that I got bumped over. Good times!

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, November 21, 2011 11:01 AM

dupes

Reslusher - I was 502nd MI Bn out of Fort Lewis. Worked the Korean theater back when it looked like Korea would be a problem again! 98C with a KP modifier...not that I was very good at speaking Korean.

A Korean language 98C!  My hat's off to ya!  Cowboy  I was 98G-German.  At least you guys still had a job after the Cold war ended!  Bang Head

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by dupes on Monday, November 21, 2011 10:57 AM

Rob Gronovius

My take on the intel guys are that they were great at messing with platoons and companies while we were trying to train, learn formations, break in new tank commanders, platoon leaders, etc.

Hmmmm...that sounds eerily similar to how things went at Yakima. Whistling

Rob Gronovius

Any information that got down to us was either too late or too wrong (at that moment) to be of any use to the guy who has to creep over the ridge to determine where the enemy was.

The first indication of suspected enemy contact was simulator fire, not intel.

And this, unfortunately, also sounds familiar. The biggest challenge was always getting what we knew to someone that it would matter too. Chain of command usually did it's best to prevent that.

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Posted by dupes on Monday, November 21, 2011 10:53 AM

Reslusher - I was 502nd MI Bn out of Fort Lewis. Worked the Korean theater back when it looked like Korea would be a problem again! 98C with a KP modifier...not that I was very good at speaking Korean.

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Posted by dupes on Monday, November 21, 2011 10:51 AM

stikpusher

Yes, the basic HMMWV that carried the S250 shelter was the M1037 Shelter Carrier. The same vehicle fitted with a winch was a different nomeclature. I never drove one so I don't know the M series number. Just saw it in the -10. for a basic HMMWV kit in 1/35 to use as a 1037 I would suggest either Academy M998 or Italeri/Revell Germany kits M998 or M1038

Hmmm. I wonder why they label one of them as the S250, and the other one as the M1037? There are some minor differences...but I'd have to take a closer look to tell you exactly what they are.

stikpusher

How much did you pay for the S250 shelter Dupes?

I got lucky...both of them involved in a private sale for 11 bucks each. Surprise

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, November 21, 2011 9:18 AM

No arguement there, Rob.

The problem had(has?) to do with the way information has to travel.  If I'm Joe Intel-Guy and find out that Ivan is sending a brigade of heavy armor into the area where LTC Gronovious is setting up shop, I can't get on the radio and give him a heads-up.  It's gotta go from my site up to battalion, brigade, division and back down and that's even if we're in the same division.  It's even worse if I'm attached to your division from another.  You know how that all works though. 

Much to my dismay, intel is not omniscent.  There are times when we were just as surprised as you were.  Bang Head

We still love you guys though!  Toast

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, November 21, 2011 9:03 AM

My take on the intel guys are that they were great at messing with platoons and companies while we were trying to train, learn formations, break in new tank commanders, platoon leaders, etc. in smaller training areas like Grafenwohr or Hohenfels, but useless when we were in large scale maneuvers like REFORGER, Caravan Guard or the sand box. Any information that got down to us was either too late or too wrong (at that moment) to be of any use to the guy who has to creep over the ridge to determine where the enemy was.

The first indication of suspected enemy contact was simulator fire, not intel.

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, November 21, 2011 8:23 AM

dupes
Ooooh, definitely in on this one (if only because I want to see Stik build that Vulcan!) Former intel guy, will be building a HMMWWV similar to the one we used to cart all of our electronics gear around in back in the mid '90s. Official designation unknown (and which manufacturer's kit I'm going with), currently...have to figure out exactly what it was.

Say again??  Huh?  another intel puke??  That's gotta raise the property value around here!!  Big Smile  All these darn DATs and Gun-Bunnies gotta have someone tell 'em where the targets are!!  Propeller

Who was ya with, Dupes?  I was with 101st MI (1st ID, hence the avatar) in the sand-box and QuickFix platoon, 4th CAB (4th ID) stateside after ODS.

Seriously though, I gotta love my DATs and Gun-Bunnies!!  Silver bullets and Copperheads are a few of my favorite things!!  Bow Down

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, November 21, 2011 8:13 AM

Mmmmmmmmmm...REFORGER '90!  I remember that one!  I was two days in-country when my company saddled up to go out on that one.  I remember Top sayin' "...If I can get you over to CIF, you're goin' with us on this!  No sense in you sittin' around the barracks and going to the NCO Club to nail our wives!"  Needless to say, I didn't make it to CIF to get my gear...Devil

Something else I remember is watching Armed Forces TV and seeing a story about the "unsung heroes of REFORGER" and them talking about the intel guys.  They opened up one of the MI battalions' TRQ-32s and showed all around inside it and THEN the icing on the cake, "...and here's some live traffic coming from somewhere in East Germany..."  I almost had a heart attack!!  Crying

I think a platoon leader got relieved and a bunch of people got Article-15s.  I don't remember whose it was for sure.  I wanna say 108th MI, from 8th ID; but I've slept since then!

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, November 21, 2011 7:58 AM

The Revell M1038 HMMWV is my claim to fame. It was my O/C HMMWV during REFORGER 1990 (the Great Nerf Ball War). Our battalion had umpire duties for that exercise, but we did not have enough HMMWVs in an armor battalion to assign to each officer so the division's ADA battalion was tasked to provide HMMWVs for us.

We were in a snowy field during some down time when some guys came and took pictures of our trucks. HMMWVs were still relatively new to the Army and these were just a few months old.

We had a lot of down time because a handful of HMMWVs were representing tank companies and mechanized infantry companies. While tank companies and Bradley companies can find and attack one another, small groups of HMMWVs can easily pass each other by going down parallel trails 100m from one another and never know it.

We kept having to reset the opposing forces so they could fight.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:30 PM

Yes, the basic HMMWV that carried the S250 shelter was the M1037 Shelter Carrier. The same vehicle fitted with a winch was a different nomeclature. I never drove one so I don't know the M series number. Just saw it in the -10. for a basic HMMWV kit in 1/35 to use as a 1037 I would suggest either Academy M998 or Italeri/Revell Germany kits M998 or M1038

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/aca/kit_aca_13405.shtml

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rg_3027.shtml

http://www.spruebrothers.com/Nexternal/135-italeri-m998-hummer-command-vehicle-273.htm

How much did you pay for the S250 shelter Dupes?

EDIT- Dupes,looking at the kits, either the Acdemy M998 or the Revell Germany M1038 would be the best starting points in 1/35. And you are now on the roster.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by castelnuovo on Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:17 PM

Now you are coming up with this GB SmileSmile I have alredy built the Camell and the Lancaster, my grandfather-in-law was flying them. I served on this ship but, as far as I know, nobody makes it as a kit.

Well, will be watching this forum to see where you guys served...

Cheers Smile

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Posted by dupes on Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:08 PM

Ooooh, definitely in on this one (if only because I want to see Stik build that Vulcan!) Former intel guy, will be building a HMMWWV similar to the one we used to cart all of our electronics gear around in back in the mid '90s. Official designation unknown (and which manufacturer's kit I'm going with), currently...have to figure out exactly what it was.

I think I saw over in the GB feeler that you guys were discussing the shelters for the rear of HMMWWVs? I recently acquired a couple made by Real Model - items 35067 and 35068, they're listed as a M1037 shelter, and a S-250 shelter. Are those what you were after? Links here:

http://www.realmodel.cz/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3277

http://www.realmodel.cz/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=3278

Both look very similar to what we were using. Any info you guys could feed me about what base model to use to go either route would be highly appreciated!

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:47 PM

Wow, talk about some serious bookends to your career KenYes I want to say some like Koster did a conversion to turn Monogram's Deuce into the TF-102. I will add you to the manifest with a TBA for nowWink

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by kbuzz01 on Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:08 PM

Stik - I plan to participate.  I guess I'm in the TBA group for now. I may build the 1:48 Hasegawa P-51D or might be goofy enough to try something beyond my talents like converting Monogram's 1:48 F-102 to a TF-102 and cross-build with Hammer's Monogram round 2.  Those two are the alpha and omega of my USAF time.

Ken

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:27 PM

I never understood the term myself but...Hmm nahhh...

OK. I have the inital roster as of this eveing posted. When all you TBA's decide upon a kit, please let me know the specifics- maker, scale, variant, etc.

Bondo, which kit of the M40 will it be? AFV Club 1/35?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:14 PM

stikpusher

 RESlusher:

Hey Carlos!  You got any ideas for a GB badge yet?  

 

 

some great ideas here so far.... as far as the badge goes, I am gonna base it off the WWII discharged vets insignia, the "Ruptured Duck"

 

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/stikpusher/online%20photos/Ruptured_duck_pin.gif

Sounds interesting . "Ruptured Ducks G.B. ...............Whistling

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:11 PM

Rob Gronovius

 Shellback:

Rob , i dont know what the "beute panzer" looks like , it sounds interesting . Yes

 

It was German (WW2) term for a captured enemy tank that they put into German use. Literally translates to "Booty Tank", that's booty as in loot (pirate booty) and not as in "call."

Thanks for the answer Rob   Yes

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 19, 2011 6:47 PM

RESlusher

Hey Carlos!  You got any ideas for a GB badge yet?  

 

some great ideas here so far.... as far as the badge goes, I am gonna base it off the WWII discharged vets insignia, the "Ruptured Duck"

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, November 19, 2011 6:03 PM

Shellback

Rob , i dont know what the "beute panzer" looks like , it sounds interesting . Yes

It was German (WW2) term for a captured enemy tank that they put into German use. Literally translates to "Booty Tank", that's booty as in loot (pirate booty) and not as in "call."

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Posted by gonavycv64 on Saturday, November 19, 2011 5:33 PM

So if we can do a build in honor of a family member then I'll do the USS Intrepid for my dad, whom I lost when I was four.  We both served on board the USS Constellation (20 years apart) but I've already done three different models of the Connie.  I don't know a lot of my dad's Navy career but I do know he served on board the Connie, Shang Ri La, and the Intrepid.

I have Revell's USS Intrepid and it's modeled after the ship during WWII.  I'll have to look and see what planes were on board in the 60's and find some in 1/720 scale.

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