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Offical P-40 Group Build 2012

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Posted by MJames70 on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:53 AM

Hans von Hammer

 

Like the man siad, the engines are kits in themselves...  Everything is molded in grey, and the sprues look great.. Nice detail, but a few things need work, like some of the recessed panel-lines.. Far too deep and wide for the scale, so they'll get filled and rescribed.. Luckily it's not that way thoughout the kit..

Has a great multi-pose pilot figure as well.. Overall, I'd give it a solid eight...

Sounds pretty nice. I must have been asleep at the wheel or something when these were around a few years back. My stash is much smaller these days. Have a couple of the elderly Airfix 1/24 kits still, though. About what you expect from 1970s moldings, but I have seen some people do great things with them. I am not one of those people....

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Posted by MJames70 on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:00 AM

Gamera

MJames:

Thanks! I still need to do more research on which model my decals are for. Been a bit distracted lately Sad

That helps a lot though. Yes

Cliff

Also, regardless of fuselage length, besides the deletion of the carb scoop up top, the lower radiator intake was a little deeper and longer than the 'E' model as well. It's only maybe 6 inches or so, but it is really noticeable on plans I have seen, though. It's almost as far forward as the back edge of the spinner on the 'F'.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:25 AM

MJames70

 Gamera:

MJames:

Thanks! I still need to do more research on which model my decals are for. Been a bit distracted lately Sad

That helps a lot though. Yes

Cliff

 

Also, regardless of fuselage length, besides the deletion of the carb scoop up top, the lower radiator intake was a little deeper and longer than the 'E' model as well. It's only maybe 6 inches or so, but it is really noticeable on plans I have seen, though. It's almost as far forward as the back edge of the spinner on the 'F'.

 

Thanks, I didn't know there was that much of a difference over-all. Well as I said I only paid four bucks for the P-40E so it's not too big a deal, I'm sure I can scrape up some decals to do her as an E model. I'll save the F decals for picking up a Hobbycraft/Academy P-40F later. Just picked up the E at the show because I figured four bucks for a 1/48th scale Otaki kit was a pretty good deal.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:01 PM

Sorry, I've been quite busy these past few days and to top it off I'm sick Ick!

Does anyone know accurately what tamiya acrylic paintswould fit for an Aleutian tiger? I'm having trouble finding reference pics…

I'll put you down Hans, glad to have you here. 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:11 PM

the real red baron

Sorry, I've been quite busy these past few days and to top it off I'm sick Ick!

Does anyone know accurately what tamiya acrylic paintswould fit for an Aleutian tiger? I'm having trouble finding reference pics…

I'll put you down Hans, glad to have you here. 

The Aleutian Tiger is OD/NG isn't it? Tamiya's Neutral Gray is quite good. IMO their Olive Drab is very green. You could mix it with Khaki Drab to brown it. Personally my favorite Olive Drab is Gunze, FWIW...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:22 PM

Hey Baron I hope you're feeling better.

Have to agree with Doogs, what he said sounds right to me.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:11 PM

I was actuall thinking of painting my plane in khaki drab, but I'm no expert in colour so I usually ask here unless I can find out for myself.

Thanks Gamera, I should be okay tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:28 AM

RRB: Well the instructions for my Otaki P-40 say to paint the uppersides of the USAAF plane in olive drive....

Almost as good as a FineMolds Japanese tank I did last year that called out a part as the 'jack lack' - still not sure what that is.

 

Anyway I managed to find a sheet with decals for two P-40Es. Didn't see them since they were with my Japanese decals as both schemes are for P-40Es captured by the Japanese Empire. Guess they would still be elegible though??? And on second thought I think if I sunlight bleach the kit decals they should be usable, only a little yellowing and no other cracking or damage. Not sure how old they are, the box simply says 'Otaki' when I remember the kits I bought back in the late '80s all said 'Arii/Otaki' so I's guessing this kit is older than that?

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by MJames70 on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:36 AM

I have several Hasegawa instruction sheets that refer to things to be painted 'Semi Gross Black'....

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:47 AM

MJames70

I have several Hasegawa instruction sheets that refer to things to be painted 'Semi Gross Black'....

I suppose it's slightly prettier than just 'gross black'... Stick out tongue

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:40 AM

Anyway I managed to find a sheet with decals for two P-40Es. Didn't see them since they were with my Japanese decals as both schemes are for P-40Es captured by the Japanese Empire. Guess they would still be elegible though??? 

Check this thread out..

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Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:58 AM

hey.. I was in that thread ! did that same scheme... even.. Whistling  ( the dude never came thru on his promise either.. )...shark's mouth and "feathers" hand painted.. feathers background was airbrushed..Photobucket:550:0]

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:13 AM

AH HAH!!! So that's where the strong sense of deja vu came from last night. Thanks Hans, I'd forgotten about this thread.

And great job there again P-38, how the blazes could I forget something that bright???

The set I have from Rising Decals has the shark mouth so if I do this fighter at least I won't have to hand paint all those teeth (awesome P-38)!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:10 PM

Gamera

AH HAH!!! So that's where the strong sense of deja vu came from last night. Thanks Hans, I'd forgotten about this thread.

And great job there again P-38, how the blazes could I forget something that bright???

The set I have from Rising Decals has the shark mouth so if I do this fighter at least I won't have to hand paint all those teeth (awesome P-38)!

  Thanks.. Smile

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:22 AM

So many Group Builds so little time. Put me in for at least the 1/48 AMT P-40 N in RAAF PTO garb. Maybe the Academy 1/48 P-40C in RAF desert uniform. (I refuse to put shark teeth on any airplane.)

Eric

 

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Posted by WVP51guy on Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:48 AM

Put me down too please. This is still a ways off...I want to try a large scale craft for this one...a 1/32 or 1/24. Model type and kit company TBD.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, April 23, 2012 8:48 AM

Okay...so it's been awhile. But...can I change mine to a 1/32 Hasegawa P-40M? It'll be getting the Grey Matter F/L nose conversion to represent a P-40F of the Free French. 

Also, policy on early starts? Got a few gap days coming up before the big B-25 arrives, but I'm having a hell of a time starting on a new kit. Figure maybe I could get some of the initial hurt out of the way with the cutting...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 23, 2012 1:01 PM

BTW Baron I was going to tell you but forgot till Doogs popped this back to the top that I picked up a Hasegawa P-40N about a month ago. If you would please put that down for me, depending on how things go I might tackle the Otaki P-40E after that.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, April 23, 2012 1:13 PM

Gamera

BTW Baron I was going to tell you but forgot till Doogs popped this back to the top that I picked up a Hasegawa P-40N about a month ago. If you would please put that down for me, depending on how things go I might tackle the Otaki P-40E after that.

Scale? I've got the 1/48 Kittyhawk IV (same friggin' thing as the -N) and it looks awesome. Kinda want to get a big one, too, but I've already got that -M and a -E in epic scale.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Monday, April 23, 2012 2:10 PM

Don't forget that I switched my build to Revell's big 1/32 P-40e

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Now that I'm here, where am I??

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 23, 2012 2:47 PM

DoogsATX

 Gamera:

BTW Baron I was going to tell you but forgot till Doogs popped this back to the top that I picked up a Hasegawa P-40N about a month ago. If you would please put that down for me, depending on how things go I might tackle the Otaki P-40E after that.

 

Scale? I've got the 1/48 Kittyhawk IV (same friggin' thing as the -N) and it looks awesome. Kinda want to get a big one, too, but I've already got that -M and a -E in epic scale.

Duh! Dunce Yeah, she's the 1/48th Hasegawa P-40N kit. Looks great in the box and I've heard nothing but good about the kit.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Monday, April 23, 2012 4:18 PM

Gamera - Got you down.

Doogs - Ive got you down for two P-40's, are you going to the P-40M conversion instead of them both?

I don't know about early starts, I would prefer if we all waited until the start date. But I wouldn't mind too much if you just worked on the pit.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, April 23, 2012 8:55 PM

the real red baron

Gamera - Got you down.

Doogs - Ive got you down for two P-40's, are you going to the P-40M conversion instead of them both?

I don't know about early starts, I would prefer if we all waited until the start date. But I wouldn't mind too much if you just worked on the pit.

Don't even know if I'd work on the pit. Thinking more about making the fuselage cuts necessary to mount the Merlin cowl. Need to consult the instructions but I think I can do all the cutting/test-fitting without dealing with the pit. 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:39 AM

Okay, that should be fine. How many P-40's are you building?

I always did like the look of the longer Packard Merlin engine. If only it was a Rolls-Royce Merlin engine..

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Alabama
Posted by Big_Dog on Friday, April 27, 2012 12:57 AM

I would like to sign up for this one. Put me down for a Monogram 1/48 P-40B/C in the OOB UK scheme.

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Posted by the real red baron on Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:41 PM

Sure, I'll add you to the list.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Big_Dog on Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:49 PM

Thought I would toss in a nice set of reference pictures. These are from Life Magazine and were taken at the Curtiss plant in Buffalo, New York in spring 1941. Lots of nice reference stuff although some of the pictures are reversed so you do need to know a bit of what you  are looking at. These pictures also show zinc-chromate yellow in all its bright glory!

http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f1b47d4153c1ada2.html

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:42 AM

awesome photos!

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Posted by Ninetalis on Sunday, May 6, 2012 12:28 PM

As to add some more to the P-40 frezny,
As most of you know, there has been found an P-40 in the african desert (Egypt) by a polish exploration team, trying to find oil.

Here are some interesting links, all about the same plane.
The Vintage wings of Canada site
Another site with 2 lovely pictures

Youtube movie 1 & youtube movie 2, uploaded by the guy who found the aircraft.

the web album from the guy who found the aircraft, having 65 pictures about the wreck site itself

Dio, anyone?

With regards, Ninetalis.

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, May 7, 2012 3:15 AM

Pencil me in with the 1/48 Hasegawa P-40N.  I have some Sky decals I want to try out. 

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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