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The Official 1943 70th Anniversary Group Build

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 30, 2013 1:56 PM

jack, that bust is a real stunner. I would love to do one of those, I just wish I could do justice to figures, I struggle in 35th scale, never mind that size.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 30, 2013 1:54 PM

Great looking Tiger EB.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, August 30, 2013 12:19 PM

That's some stunning work! I'm speechless!

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 30, 2013 10:29 AM

EB, that Tiger looks great! something indeed for my T-34 to shoot at.... if it can get in close enough ;-)

Which unit are those markings for? Very nicely done on the weathering!

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Friday, August 30, 2013 4:32 AM

Let's try this with text.

1/35 Cyber Hobby Tiger I “Kursk”

Paints: AK Dunekgelb Modulation Set; Vallejo Model Colors; Revell Aqua Colors

Weathering: Artist oils; AK Streaking Grime; Iwata Com.Art Acrylics; MIG & Sennelier Pigments

I'm double dipping here. There's a “Steel Cats” Group Build going on and I've never built a Tiger or a Panther and thought it was time to try. Just so happened, though, that the kit chosen represents a Tiger that fought at Kursk and the ensuing mad German retreat to the Dnieper during 1943. I'm going to post a full build log in the armor section and anyone wanting to hear my tale of woe is welcome to check in.

Thought here that I'd share a couple thoughts about Citadel. I think it's safe to say that when people are facing extremely grim prospects that their ability to reason is badly jilted – they're almost forced to believe what they need to be true is the case regardless of how rational because the alternative is simply unthinkable. (Hope that makes sense.) And it doesn't help if one's army is run by a criminal lunatic. And by 1943 Hitler was running the Wehrmacht. Before Case Blue (the drive to the Volga and Caspian oil fields) Hitler normally acted as a kind of referee. He had rigged the system so there was no real equivalent of George Marshall, Alanbrooke or even Zhukov. But before the 1942 campaign Hitler typically watched a campaign develop and would weigh in when his commanders started squabbling. (Stopping before Dunkirk was a perfect example – so was the decision to turn Panzer forces toward Kiev and Leningrad instead of Moscow in August 1941.) Even Case Blue had serious support inside OKH. But as things went from bad to worse Hitler increasingly became the operational brain of entire German Army and when things got bad Hitler's uncanny ability to smell opportunity turned into rashness bordering on insanity. (Please tell, who did Hitler think was going to protect the northern flank of Sixth and Fourth Armies in the fall of 1942? The Italians and Rumanians? A child should have seen that a German withdrawal was needed in September.)

Yet the remarkable tactical skills of the Wehrmacht still existed and German war production was actually increasing, although not fast enough to face a war that was expanding. So Germany still had cards to play. But the Russians were clearly gaining the upper hand in the Ost as every month added to their supply of T-34s, IL-2s and allied Lend Lease was beginning to pay off seriously. And Rooskie generals were proving brutal but, on a good day, ruthlessly efficient. And then there were the Western allies that had, as Goebbels put it, inflicted a “Second Stalingrad” on the Axis in North Africa by early 1943 and were growing in power even more rapidly than were the Soviets.

The book solution was pretty simple and Guderian (now Inspector General of armored forces and not in active command) saw it. The Wehrmacht could have stood on the defensive in the East; gave ground when the Soviets made their inevitable attack and hope that superior tactics would bleed the Russian Army. Some of the powerful new units being created or veteran divisions rebuilt could have been deployed to the Mediterranean as it was very likely that the allies would strike somewhere. Considering how ragged allied operations were in 1943 it was a tempting idea and we can be glad there weren't a couple hundred Tigers on Sicily.

But Hitler and OKH head General Zietzler knew something well enough – if Germany gave up the initiative in the East, they would never get it back unless the Soviets fought as badly in 1943 as they had in early 1941. Highly unlikely that. And a major redeployment to the Med would have raised the possibility that the allies would have made a grab for Sicily or Sardinia and, under the umbrella of naval gun fire, kept it. If they thought the Germans were in strength in Italy, Marshall might have gotten his way and allied units would have been deployed in haste to the UK for a 1944 invasion that would have been supported by a timely attack on southern France.

So Hitler comes up with a bad compromise. Launch a “spoiling attack” on the Kursk bulge which would maul the Red Army and keep them quiet while the Wehrmacht shifted West. On the face of it, the idea of stupid. It was clear the Russians were glad to let the Germans have the first shot. There would be no surprise. Heavy losses were inevitable and the chances of closing the “sack” fast enough to trap whole armies was very remote. It was much more likely that the Germans would maul their jealously refurbished Panzer arm and Luftwaffe for little chance of victory. But it might work if the Russians had “lucked out” in 1942. Indeed, I think that Citadel was launched because Hitler believed there was a remote chance that the Red Army might “crack” and Citadel could turn into another battle for Moscow.

The course of Citadel itself does not show how badly Hitler, Zietzler and Manstein had gone astray. The Germans inflicted more losses than they suffered on the ground. The Tiger had performed quite well – far better than the Panther which proved a very bad idea all around. I've even seen Manstein defended for wanting to continue with his attack because he knew that there was no chance to move sizable forces West. This doesn't take into account the stunning blow launched by the Red Army against Model near Orel followed a few days later by a serious flank attack against Manstein's LOCs. The Red Army didn't fight a defensive battle at Kursk – they counter-punched. Zhukov and other Red Marshalls saw that once the Germans were committed a Russian envelopment of either German flank would lead to, at minimum, a breathless Nazi retreat. Better yet, there was a possibility that the Wehrmacht might “break” and the German position be shattered and their army driven into Poland by the end of 1943. It didn't work that way – but the Red Army had taken back most of European Russia by the end of 1943 and there would be no question of another German offensive in the East.

So the Germans fell between two stools – a huge blunder when the clearest thinking was required. Great news for the allies of course: the only down side was that the easy conquest of Sicily enticed the allies into a much larger Italian campaign than was needed. (Nobody fights a perfect war.) It was probably best for the Germans too. No sane government was going to make a separate peace with a criminal regime like Hitler's so even if the Germans had played their cards perfectly and pushed the war into late 1945 the ultimate result would have been an even greater debacle for the German people: they might have had the opportunity to suffer the first atomic bomb attack.

The Tiger is controversial. It was expensive and its size limited its deployment. Personally I think it was worth the candle. (The Panther was a serious mistake – its low serviceability would have made a much larger number of Stugs and Jagdpanzer IV a much better investment.) Soviet doctrine which they referred to as “deep war” or “operational war” depended above all on momentum. The one thing Tigers could do if properly supported was to blunt Soviet attacks and throw off their timetable. This was done often enough that even a small number of Tiger Is played a key role in saving the German Army from debacle in late 1943. If the Russians were unable to break the Vistula in 1944 it was because of Soviet armored losses and the ability of German strongpoints to slow the advance. Lord knows the beast caused the allies many headaches in Normandy. The strategic bombing offensive didn't perform as promised, but the allies can consider themselves lucky that Tiger production was seriously harmed by bombing in 1944. Tis true that the Tiger II was a waste, but the Tiger I was a very good tank. Years ago I played elaborate military board games. One postulated a Warsaw Pact assault on the Fulda Gap. The game designers claimed that the Tiger I was very nearly as good as any tank on the battlefield in 1965. And no matter how good the M-1 is today, we should remember that it carries a German gun. The good old days.

Pics Below:

Eric

 

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Posted by G-J on Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:04 PM

The weathering on the tank is awesome.  And that's coming from a non-armor guy....I really don't know the first thing about armor.

The bust looks awesome too.  I can relate to blowing up the picture to see where you want to work more.  The first time I took a close-up digital picture I almost feinted.

On the bench:  Tamyia Mosquito Mk. VI for the '44 group build.  Yes, still.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:19 PM

Jack that bust is looking awesome! Beautiful work.

I am gonna have to do a clean build just to throw off my pattern ;-)

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:58 PM

castelnuovo - looks you've had a barrel of fun with those drums.  Seriously, I think you captured the rust colours beautifully.

Stik - I'm beginning to see a pattern here, your rust and dust effects are looking really keen.

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Thanks all for the comments.  I've just a small update, mostly the cap work is done, though blown up I can see some touch up is required  (maybe I should invest in an optivisor of some sorts).   Also added the red powder to the skin tones.  His right cheek received a bit too much and have to pull back to some neutral tones.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:41 PM

Even better, stik.  Outstanding weathering.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:36 PM

Looking good there Stik, love the dusting.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:37 PM

Thank you sir... it's all ready to dig in hull down and await the Hitlerite hordes...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:30 PM

INow I can see them. I don't know why that happened.

I love the dusty look of your T-34. Awesome work!!!

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:15 PM

They show up fine here, but I am having issues with photobucket on another site... again...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:11 PM

I can't see any of the pics. Clicking on them only leads to a blank page as well...

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:35 AM

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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LSM

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:13 AM

ok so here are the final WIP updates, I was adding sifted dirt and Future to the running gear during the weathering process...

and now for the finished photos...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:09 AM

Eric, yes this is supposed to be a Kursk T-34... like the Sherman in Normandy they fell by the score there, but in the end they carried the day and held the battlefield.

CMK, thank you.

I got it pretty much finished and photographed last night (except for the TC figure and maybe one or two fine tuning tweaks that I noticed) and will get the photos posted here later on in a bit. I had some personal business to attend to last night and was not able to do so then...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:42 PM

Both the figures and the tank are excellent, stik.  Wonderful work there!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:40 PM

Excellent realistic appearance, castelnuovo.  Looks good!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:26 PM

Great work, Jack!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:46 PM

Stik

Stalin would be proud. I'd guess your tank was at Kursk. In the next couple of days I'll post something for it to shoot at.

Eric

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:35 AM

Thank you guys! I can finally see the finish line on this one! I think this evening I should be able to post the finished photos, providing that no disasters strike!  The figures still have a bit more work needed on them, but I have no rush there- I am formulating their vignette in my head now. Tony, I figured that the litter case should be worse off than the other guy, so I added just a bit more blood.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:08 AM

That guy on the stretcher doesn't look in good shape. The T-34, on the other hand, looks great. Keep em coming Stik.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:22 AM

Excellent work, Stik! Both the T-34 and the figures look great!

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:09 PM

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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LSM

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, August 26, 2013 10:37 PM

Well then you have far more experience with those paints than I do. I am sure that helps.

Well teh past four days I have been working pretty hard with my son on his Eagle project for boy scouts so I have not had too much bench time. Only on breaks or after the day's work was done. But we are done with all the construction now and just need to install the items next weekend. In the meantime, I did get the tow cables painted and installed.. woo hoo!!!

and I did some more work on the medic/wounded figures

I also pulled this trio from the set off the sidelines, finished gluing them togther last night and did touch up/detail paint work today. I have an idea of using them with the Dshk from the T-34 kit...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, August 26, 2013 3:39 PM

Thanks Stik. I use those rattle cans on my cars all the time.

Cheers

Tony

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 26, 2013 1:28 PM

have to agree with Tony about those fuel drums, very realistic. Nice start on this one.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, August 26, 2013 11:17 AM

Tony, that is Tamiya spray paint Olive Drab 2. It is an excellent choce for Russian/Soviet AFVs, but sprays HORRIBLY from the can directly. I highly recommend decanting if you choose to use it.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, August 26, 2013 2:30 AM

Castelnuovo - that makes me want to paint a rusted 44 gallon drum. Looks realistic to me.

Stik - nice looking '34, I've a few in the stash. What brand/shade of green is that ?

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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