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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:00 PM

Jack, you know that once you finish this conversion, either Tamiya or Hobbyboss will release a nice 1/48 M4A4/Sherman V kit. That is always my luck on projects like this one.

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:21 PM

BB, great work on the Sherman. Do you want me to use that pics or are you going to post some more.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:51 PM

stik - What about weathering the white invasion stripes? Would you use a dirty white wash on the stripes or simply use a black wash throughout the aircraft fuselage?

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:33 PM

BS214: As SP said, the easiest way is probably to paint the white areas, then masking and painting the black.. If you do a black undercoat under the NM, just mask again and then spray the metallic.

I'm not sure about the weathering, I'd apply the gloss, then the decals, then overspray the decals with more gloss. If you use a sludge wash over this or something like Flory brand wash you should be able to wipe off the wash if you don't like how it looks.  

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:33 PM

I would go with whatever wash you are using overall. BUT... remember that the aircraft may be much older than the stripes, if you are doing D-Day or immediately afterwards. So go very light on weathering them for then. If you are depicting a few weeks after then the would have had time to weather more and blend with the rest of the aircraft.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by bitbite on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:35 PM

Thanks all for the comments!  Bish - I'd like to try getting some better pictures of it (I'm not the best at the picture thing but pretty sure I can do better) for posting but that's not going to happen 'til tomorrow.  I was out fishing all day and I'm too tired now.  It's a rough life but someone has to do it. Wink

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:01 PM

You're right stik - I do need to go light when weathering the stripes.

Gamera - I don't understand what NM means. New Metal?

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:06 PM

Oh sorry- natural metal aka aluminum.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:30 PM

Gamera - would Aluminum be the closest match to Natural Metal (aka: Bare Metal Silver)?  I'll be honest - plain old silver doesn't look like right shade of silver I've been looking as a bare metal "look".

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:54 AM

I use Alclad for aluminum aircraft. There are other ways but Alclad is the easiest for me. It's mainly an issue of getting the undercoat perfect (Alclad is too hot to use on bare plastic). If you have any rough areas or flaws they will stick out like a sore thumb under Alclad or any other aluminum paint.

I use their aluminum paint, you can use dark  or light  aluminum on some panels for more contrast. The polished aluminum is really shiny- more like a well-maintained airshow aircraft.

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:55 AM

stikpusher

Jack, you know that once you finish this conversion, either Tamiya or Hobbyboss will release a nice 1/48 M4A4/Sherman V kit. That is always my luck on projects like this one.

Does that include buying a mediocre kit only to have a better one come out not too long afterwards - had that happen many times.  Right now I'm just hoping this doesn't turn into a six month build like the Tunisian Tiger.
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All sound advice on the the invasion stripes and weathering of them. Only thing I can add is to consider the airfields used in Normandy, some were already operative by June 10th!   A very in depth read on these Advanced Landing Ground (ALG) - scrolling down to the bottom, one will find the RAF listed ones. 
The landing strips themselves had a variety of metal mesh laid down, so not sure how this was at keeping dust down, but aircraft were parked on open ground - so something to consider when weathering the undersides.



Another photo I found while searching these ALG airfiends is this one of Shermans loaded on an LCT.  Interesting to see streaking even before seeing battle.  I assume it is fuel spill over the sides, but looks very prominant.


regards,
Jack

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:16 AM

Here's my complete Tiger #131 heading to the Normandy Front. I tried to match a pic provided to me from Bish as reference and I think it came close. The kit is Tamiya along with Tamiya zim and acrylic paints. My wash was a mixture of Abteilung black and turpenoid.  The effects and pigments were all fro assorted AK products. Bish was a big help in providing a color photo of 131 and sometime in the future I'll do a diarama by adding some figures and building to match.

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:24 AM

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:24 AM

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:25 AM

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:26 AM

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:26 AM

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Posted by bitbite on Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:57 AM

Very cool, jibber!  Toast

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:31 AM

Terrific job there Jibber, she looks pretty darn close to the photo!

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Posted by greentracker98 on Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:39 AM

I need to get cracking on my P-38 & P 47 to bomb your tank Jibber LOL

Great job Jib. Looks very real.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:51 AM

BB, no worries, I will wait out for some more pics.

jibber, that looks amazing. I am glad the photo was of some use. I think you have that pretty spot on. Now I wonder who will do his Dio first. Mine has been waiting 5 years now. I'll add a pic to the front page now.

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:36 PM

I've spent some time trying to find a tank crew stationed at these positions in the photo. Once I do I have a good idea for a dio. Thanks for the reviews.

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Posted by bitbite on Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:42 PM

This one's done!  Finally.

Bish - Please use whichever picture you think is best as the final one. Smile

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:03 PM

Ok BB, done.

BB & Jibber, thanks for much for taking part in the GB and getting us off to a great start. I do hope you guys will stick around, and maybe even join in with more builds if you have the time. I know there's a lot of great GB's going on at the moment, so I am sure we will see more of you guys on some of those.

One suggestion for the both of you if I may. For your photo's, especially those of your completed builds, I would suggest a plain background, a piece of blue or white card is ideal. I only started doing this myself at the end of last year. But it can make a real difference to your pics if there are no distractions in the background.

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:22 PM

Will do, I was more worried about lighting than setting. My mistake.

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:24 PM

BB, personally I like the third pic. It shows the nice shading, accents, stowage, tracking and the figure. I think it's a great build.

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Posted by bitbite on Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:24 PM

Duly noted.  Am looking around here for something white and not finding anything . . .

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:25 PM

No mistake at all jibber. I was doing my photo's that way for years until someone pointed it out. I find taking good pics much harder than building the model. But there have been some good tutorials on here about taking good model pics which I have found very useful

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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