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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:04 PM

Gamera, as if I would. Wink. Though I should have told her I had a spare tin of DPM paint I could use.

I know mortar rounds fired from tubes are called mortar bombs. Not sure about those fired from the Churchill. The name SPIGOT rings a bell, but that might be the type of gun.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:50 PM

Lol!

Yeah, I've heard the term bomb used for a mortar now that you mention it, guess I'll use that term unless someone corrects me!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:30 PM

I decided to return the Grimy Black I bought and make an even exchange for for the Weathered Black. Didn't like the shade of Grimy Black at all. Looks looks of deep dark gray than black.

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:56 PM

Grimy Black I am hanging on to for doing things like heavy exhaust stains on dark aircraft like a black B-26 or Tigercat, or Sea Blue Corsair or Skyraider. I think it will work great for that sort of thing.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:59 PM

The AVRE Churchill is armed with a SPIGOT MORTAR. I believe that "bombs" is the UK/English term for the rounds fired, while us Yanks call them "shells" or "rounds".

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:45 PM

Well it is a British tank so I guess I should go with 'bombs' here. Wink Anyway it's better than big explodey thingee!

BS214: Personally I'd keep both of them- they're really good for tires/tyres the more wear the lighter the grey. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
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Posted by ajd3530 on Friday, October 11, 2013 1:47 AM

Hey guys, I don't suppose its too late to throw my hat in here on this group build? I have an Arii P-47D sitting around and I finally found a set of after market decals with invasion stripes that I just can't live without.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, October 11, 2013 2:24 AM

ajd, nope, not to late at all. What scale is the kit, I will add you to the roster.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Friday, October 11, 2013 2:36 AM

I've built that thing AJD, have fun with it !

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, October 11, 2013 8:41 AM

A bad day at work and home makes me at a loss for concentration to finish my build. Hopefully this weekend will be better. Damn co-worker snitching to the boss because he found out I called him an ***hole behind his back. Seriously? He needs to pull up his big boys pants and deal with it. Young adults these days are too soft.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, October 11, 2013 8:43 AM

Home bad day is I found out the missus got a flat tire on her car and now wants all 4 tires replaced. They need to be replaced regardless due to low threads according to the mechanic.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Friday, October 11, 2013 9:41 AM

Its in 1/48. Hopefully I can start on the interior and get it together within the next few weeks, but I'll probably wait until after Christmas to paint it. Hopefully going to get a new airbrush/compressor, and I want to do this build right. Thanks guys!

Alex

  • Member since
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  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Friday, October 11, 2013 10:28 AM

in the us army they are rounds. and, with mortars, the asst gunner holds the round at the top of the tube (hangs the round) and, when the fire command is given, drops the round down the tube and ducks. that's why you always see one guy bent over next to the tube. on an 81mm you can hang it with one hand, 4.2" 2 hands. my mortar platoon saying in the battalion was

":if you get bored come on out to the mortar point and hang around with the mortars."

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, October 11, 2013 11:40 AM

So your Mortar men are called gunner's, didn't know that.

Ours are just Mortar man. Or drop shorts when we were feeling less than kind.Big Smile

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, October 11, 2013 11:44 AM

Blacksheep, looks like you have had a bad day. Well, its nearly the weekend, lock yourself in and hope next week will be better.

Alex, welcome aboard. Start when ever you are able, I won't get to mine until the new year, hopefully.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 11, 2013 12:04 PM

Bombs, shells, rounds? Thanks guys... now my head hurts!

Yeah Blacksheep, you need to lock the door, take the phone off the hook, and tell everyone to leave you the BLEEP alone for a little while...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, October 11, 2013 12:55 PM

Gamera

Bombs, shells, rounds? Thanks guys... now my head hurts!

 

Got to love the military. Love to make things nice and simple. Bang Head

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    January 2013
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, October 11, 2013 1:46 PM

The home bad day isn't what really threw me off. It's the bad day at work when the co-worker courior snitched on the boss when he found out from another I called him an ***hole. Seriously? What kind of man is he to go running to his mama boss over me calling him an ***hole? He needs to pull up his big boy pants and deal with it. Enough rant. LOL!

Besides, we as a family got plans to enjoy our time out since the weather is gonna be nice all weekend.  :)

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, October 11, 2013 3:07 PM

Gamera

Bombs, shells, rounds? Thanks guys... now my head hurts!

Yes, and those in power of you learning such things have very creative ways to make you learn fast and right...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Friday, October 11, 2013 3:07 PM

hey blacksheep just the opposite here. ready to throw the 37mm against the wall. i shall, however "endeavor to perservere" and takes some pics before touch up painting and oil washes.

i think the commonwealth got bombs from the ww1 short range explosive lobbers. rounds are one piece, even those with a combustible cartridge like the shilleagh/152mm gun system. a mortar round has all the propellant wrapped around the primer extension at the bottom and these are removed to adjust range (making a nice pile of c-4 to burn later on). anything with artillery and tank rounds have fixed propellant casngs like tank and AT guns are rounds whereas shells (like 155, 8" and big naval guns) have separate propellant "bags".

having said all that shells and rounds tend to be used interchangebly unless referring to specific components of a "bullet". i guess bullet's become rounds when greater than 14.5mm. never heard of 20mm bullets.

just doing my best to muddy the waters.

ps you forgot the "OH MY!"

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 11, 2013 4:19 PM

Ah thanks Wayne:

'Bombs and shells and rounds... oh my!'

SP: Yeah I'd probably learn it quite well with a drill sergeant standing over me screaming: 'WHAT THE Censored DID YOU CALL THAT YOU Censored Censored PIECE OF Censored!?! MAYBE IF I RAMMED IT UP YOURCensored Censored YOU'D LEARN THE Censored RIGHT Censored TERM...'

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, October 11, 2013 4:20 PM

yeah, you were a mortar guy... what did you call them?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, October 11, 2013 4:58 PM

Gamera

Ah thanks Wayne:

'Bombs and shells and rounds... oh my!'

SP: Yeah I'd probably learn it quite well with a drill sergeant standing over me screaming: 'WHAT THE Censored DID YOU CALL THAT YOU Censored Censored PIECE OF Censored!?! MAYBE IF I RAMMED IT UP YOURCensored Censored YOU'D LEARN THE Censored RIGHT Censored TERM...'

That drill sergeant would help for sure...

I'm getting confused by all those bombs, rounds, shells and "Explodey Thingeys" as well...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, October 11, 2013 4:59 PM

Let's just call them "ammunition" to make it simple...

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, October 11, 2013 5:22 PM

Gamera

Ah thanks Wayne:

'Bombs and shells and rounds... oh my!'

SP: Yeah I'd probably learn it quite well with a drill sergeant standing over me screaming: 'WHAT THE Censored DID YOU CALL THAT YOU Censored Censored PIECE OF Censored!?! MAYBE IF I RAMMED IT UP YOURCensored Censored YOU'D LEARN THE Censored RIGHT Censored TERM...'

 

So you have meet my old CSM.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 11, 2013 5:24 PM

Lol!

I like your idea Clemons- "ammunition" works for me too.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    May 2005
Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, October 12, 2013 4:40 AM

Gamera

SP: Yeah I'd probably learn it quite well with a drill sergeant standing over me screaming: 'WHAT THE Censored DID YOU CALL THAT YOU Censored Censored PIECE OF Censored!?! MAYBE IF I RAMMED IT UP YOURCensored Censored YOU'D LEARN THE Censored RIGHT Censored TERM...'

If you put that in french and added a few blows of the hand, it would sound exactly like my Caporal Chef (who was a sadistic SOB),,,,,,he'd make Gunny Hartmann look like a jack-wagon from mamby-pambyland!Huh?

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:58 PM

I completed almost all the construction work on my Jug. The only things left are the constructions of the flaps and some minor sanding/polishing at the join of the tail fille and the wing tips. I had some problems with the panels on the lower wing surfaces. I had to rescribe the panel lines and kinda messed it up: 2 of the panel lines are too broad and one of them is slightly irregular. This would be no problem on a painted aircraft, but mine will get a NMF. Any tipps on how to partially fill them? I have putty, superglue, microfiller and Tamiya's dissolved putty...

  • Member since
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:03 PM

Fill the panel line with putty or superglue. Sand it smooth, and rescribe.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:10 PM

Thanks. I'll try to do that. I definitely need a scribing tool. The screwed up panel lines resulted in me being cheap and only using a modelling knife and a razor saw to rescribe the panel lines. Do you know if the Tamiya scribing tool is any good?

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