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Thanks Bish... I guess its just hard to figure what the judges are looking at and for in a kit.
PS Stuka calling my name... (ha)
When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...
Make Lemonade!
Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...
Doug, well done, and don't sell yourself short, that's a great build.
I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so
On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3
Great, thanks. Then 02 it is. BTW, I like the scratch work, it adds a lot.
Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom. Peace be with you.
On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38
In the Hanger: A bunch of kits
Reasoned,
I've got most of a more detailed answer to your question in the can, Sorry I forgot your interior bits. I did RLM 66 in the cockpit and 02 everywhere else, including wheelwells. I've got some photos earlier in the thread on my wheelwell upgrades, but it is probably easier to just post here
Thank you MAgather, think I'm going 81-82/76 with 66 cockpit. What are you doing wheel wells in?
Congrats Doug!
Well I just got home from the local model show... Many very talented builders and beautiful creations... But I must have done something right this time...
I really cant believe it but in the 1/48 model division, I won! There were several others there that just about had me wishing I had stayed home...but... Judges must have seen things I didnt. Any way... just thought I'd show you that a 25 year old kit can still be viable in compitition. Go figure... (lol)
Doug
PS... loving the work going on here! Talk about skill and talent!
I've been quiet, but slowly working on my Arrow. It isn't done, but she is getting alot closer.
Here's the version that is designed for winter on the eastern front: <G> Actually this is Alclad primer
This shot shows the preshading of the panel lines. All paint from this point forward is Model Master Enamels The lower third of the ventral span is now pre-mottled with the Flanker dark color. The middle third and fuse bottom is RLM 76. The upper third is sprayed with RLM 76 mixed with white. The final result is a very variegated paint job that looks like it's been rode hard and put away wet. Which is exactly how a war prize should look after a bunch of testing by those Navy flyboys at Pax River. Finally, here is the topside. I did the same process (dark mottle followed by RLM and then RLM lightened). This is MM 82 & 83, which my research says is accurate for this airframe. My impression however is that MM actually has their numbers reversed, and what MM calls RLM 83 is actually what the standardized RLM 82 as defined by the Reich Luftsfahrt Ministririum (the bright green), and that MM 82 is actually an early version of 81 before it was standardized as what we now call Braunviolette. I used masks for the insignia, because I'm going to overspray them for the US Stars and Bars. Didn't work out as well as I'd liked, as the white took a number of coats and therefore are more raised than I'd like. Note that you can see the mask on the vertical stab for the haukenkreuz
This shot shows the preshading of the panel lines. All paint from this point forward is Model Master Enamels
The lower third of the ventral span is now pre-mottled with the Flanker dark color. The middle third and fuse bottom is RLM 76. The upper third is sprayed with RLM 76 mixed with white. The final result is a very variegated paint job that looks like it's been rode hard and put away wet. Which is exactly how a war prize should look after a bunch of testing by those Navy flyboys at Pax River. Finally, here is the topside. I did the same process (dark mottle followed by RLM and then RLM lightened). This is MM 82 & 83, which my research says is accurate for this airframe. My impression however is that MM actually has their numbers reversed, and what MM calls RLM 83 is actually what the standardized RLM 82 as defined by the Reich Luftsfahrt Ministririum (the bright green), and that MM 82 is actually an early version of 81 before it was standardized as what we now call Braunviolette. I used masks for the insignia, because I'm going to overspray them for the US Stars and Bars. Didn't work out as well as I'd liked, as the white took a number of coats and therefore are more raised than I'd like. Note that you can see the mask on the vertical stab for the haukenkreuz
The lower third of the ventral span is now pre-mottled with the Flanker dark color. The middle third and fuse bottom is RLM 76. The upper third is sprayed with RLM 76 mixed with white. The final result is a very variegated paint job that looks like it's been rode hard and put away wet. Which is exactly how a war prize should look after a bunch of testing by those Navy flyboys at Pax River.
Finally, here is the topside. I did the same process (dark mottle followed by RLM and then RLM lightened). This is MM 82 & 83, which my research says is accurate for this airframe. My impression however is that MM actually has their numbers reversed, and what MM calls RLM 83 is actually what the standardized RLM 82 as defined by the Reich Luftsfahrt Ministririum (the bright green), and that MM 82 is actually an early version of 81 before it was standardized as what we now call Braunviolette. I used masks for the insignia, because I'm going to overspray them for the US Stars and Bars. Didn't work out as well as I'd liked, as the white took a number of coats and therefore are more raised than I'd like. Note that you can see the mask on the vertical stab for the haukenkreuz
Finally, here is the topside. I did the same process (dark mottle followed by RLM and then RLM lightened). This is MM 82 & 83, which my research says is accurate for this airframe. My impression however is that MM actually has their numbers reversed, and what MM calls RLM 83 is actually what the standardized RLM 82 as defined by the Reich Luftsfahrt Ministririum (the bright green), and that MM 82 is actually an early version of 81 before it was standardized as what we now call Braunviolette.
I used masks for the insignia, because I'm going to overspray them for the US Stars and Bars. Didn't work out as well as I'd liked, as the white took a number of coats and therefore are more raised than I'd like.
Note that you can see the mask on the vertical stab for the haukenkreuz
Reasoned, your color questions are complex. It is late and I've done lots of research on this, but I'm too tired to confirm the details. If I recall, original was 70/71 over 65 but in Aug '44 the requirements were changed to 81-82-76. There are questions as to whether there was agreement on what the colors were and whether they were standardized.
As far as I know, there are no definitives as far as what happened when and where. There has been lots of research into these by experts who have way more knowledge than I do. Prototypes and early airframes are probably 70-71-65. Late airframes are probably 81-82-76, but which exact shades and when that switch took place is probably open to interpretation.
See my next post for my interpretation, for one very specific airframe, 240102 aka White102.
RLM color questions here before too much research 1) cockpit 66? 2)wheel wells ? 3) underside 65 or 76? 4) top side splinter 81/82?
I haven't started yet Chris but was kinda hoping this wouldn't require a bunch of plastic surgery after that B-36. Thanks for the heads up Doug on the tail sitter syndrome, better break out the fishing weights!
Any of you Monogram builders run into a gap at the wing root. Mine fits fine at the front and there is no stepdown from the fairing to the top of the wing but it increases as you go to the trailing edge. If I pull up the tips (increase dihedral) it causes a step. I figure I'll just fill it with strip and move on. Just wondering
Chris Christenson
Copy that Doug! I have a bunch of different sizes of hex nuts I use for balancing my RC planes and I left the front engine panel off just for that purpose. I usually stand the plane on its main gear and weight it till it tips forward then put the nose gear on and add more if necessary.
Chris... just in case you might not be aware... you will have to weight the nose down, or she will be a tail dragger. I did that to one I had built, but not the one I mounted to a dio base. That one I just glued down the nose wheel/tire assy to the runway. Looking forward to som wip pics! Thanks
Doug--now there's a lot less it's beginning to look like one big piece of plastic!
Reasoned--Building the single seater A-1 or A-0. I think I mentioned before that the kit cockpit is plenty well detailed on its own. I used a Eduard PE set and wish I woulda left well enough alone. I will try to post progress pics ASAP. The fuselage on mine was a little warped and I did a lot of filling and some rescribing. Only other departure was to drill out the exhausts and ream them a little with a needle file. The nose wheel well needs a little filling to close out some gaps but that might have been my goof, and
there might be an issue on the top wing roots-havent put the top panels on yet.
Whole lot of plastic in that box Chris! LOL...
Great Chris, looks like you and I are tackling the same kit! I've made the Jug already, just finishing up a B-36 and when she's done, I'm laying into this bad boy. Which version are you doing the single seat or two?
Look forward to seeing more of that Chris.
Started my Monogram kit about Jan 12. Got a lot done but for now I will post the cumpulsory box and contents shots. [/URL [URL=http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/cechristenson/media/Do-335%20build/335box-Copy_zpsc53db643.jpg.html]
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Reasoned and Doug answered my distress call for the figures. What can I say but I will post some pictures after the ground crew is added. Thanks again to both!
Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!
Thanks Bish. Funny how some entries are scored but still glad I won something.
plasticjunkie I managed to get second place at the Jaxcon 2014 show in in Jacksonville this last Saturday in the multi engine category. Sorry for the lousy picture. [
I managed to get second place at the Jaxcon 2014 show in in Jacksonville this last Saturday in the multi engine category. Sorry for the lousy picture.
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Sorry I missed this post pj. Well done, 1st place must have been something very special.
Hey I just had a thought.
Any of you gents that built or have the Monogram Arrow in your stash and are not using the two mechanics and the standing pilot, I would love to grab them if you will not use them at all. I will gladly pay for the postage. I haven't found figures that fit in with this setting. Please PM me.
Thanks guys!
Congrats to you!
Thanks Reasoned! I might add a couple of mechanics to make it a dio. Thought about that after completing it. I'll see if anything is out there otherwise it will stay as is.
Excellent work pj, your arrow has impressive engine detail and the office is tops! Man that pilot is swimming in petrol.
thanks Bish!
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