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Rommel vs Monty (North African GB 1941-43) Jan. 1 - Aug. 31 2014

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Posted by pyrman64 on Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:18 AM

Tony: Fabulous looking AB41....nice weathering job.Toast  I wish I could build `em that quickly.

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:01 AM

Thanks Mike and Bish. It's actually a kit by Supermodel, which I think might have been rebadged as Italeri and subsequently Tamiya.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:13 AM

Nice looking build Tony.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:25 AM

Tony -- very, very good! You make it look so real! Whose kit, BTW? Italeri? Top marks on a super build!

Mike/TB379

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:26 AM

This one has got away from me a bit. We've had some minor illnesses in the house, which hasmeant that I've been indoors a lot more than usual. Before I know it, my 1/48 Autoblinda AB41 is  done, but I did manage a few shots on the way. The completed photos were taken outdoors, and it's changed the Italian Sand color somewhat.

I hope you like...

Cheers

Tony

First, with a black undercoat

Three shades of Sand...

With some filters then a pin wash.

and the completed ones.

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:50 PM

Now I remember why I stalled on the AS-42 during painting- the color is horrible. Polly Scale Italian SandYellow. I am trying every trick I know,  but it is a light yellow that just does not want to co operate very well. If not thinned enough i get tip dry, if thinned too much it is so dang transluscent and runs horribly. I added some Future to counteract the tip dry and it is still soemwhat tansluscent. But I did get some basecoat work done. However I did see that Humbrol Light Yellow is very close if not quite an exact match, so I am gonna try that as a primer coat in the next few days here- then the Polly Scale color as a top coat for a more accurate shade of need be.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:14 PM

Some great progress already here!! I am trying to wrap up a PzIII on the bench and get started on the Bison II. Hopefully I will have something to contribute soon.

Eric

 

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Posted by waynec on Saturday, January 11, 2014 3:43 PM

not much to see here yet. working on underside of cargo bed and the frame. the winch was amusing and i will add a cable after painting. got my THE WEATHERING MASGAZINES om mud, dust, and chipping so some of that may come into play as well as the doog's mud splatter technique.

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:10 AM

I'm slow too the party. I cracked open the box and looked at all the goods. Hope to have a few pics up tomorrow of the box and contents.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, January 10, 2014 12:40 PM

There's some awesome work going on here!

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 10, 2014 8:43 AM

Really nice work there Mike and Jibber!

I've got to get some photos up, I'm almost done with construction - just so overcast and dark here it's hard to get good photos.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, January 9, 2014 2:35 PM

Thanks Bish this is a great kit, it's good to get it going.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 9, 2014 12:50 PM

Nice work there jibber.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 9, 2014 12:49 PM

Nice to see this underway Mike.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, January 9, 2014 9:23 AM

<a href="http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/kingtiger11/media/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_0988_zps341c7041.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p681/kingtiger11/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_0988_zps341c7041.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMG_0988_zps341c7041.jpg"/></a<a href="http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/kingtiger11/media/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_0994_zps67af8b06.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p681/kingtiger11/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_0994_zps67af8b06.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMG_0994_zps67af8b06.jpg"/></a<a href="http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/kingtiger11/media/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_1010_zps7b784c0d.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p681/kingtiger11/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_1010_zps7b784c0d.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMG_1010_zps7b784c0d.jpg"/></a<a href="http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/kingtiger11/media/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_1011_zpsc1e7cb90.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p681/kingtiger11/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_1011_zpsc1e7cb90.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMG_1011_zpsc1e7cb90.jpg"/></a<a href="http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/kingtiger11/media/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_1016_zps7a2bf9ef.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p681/kingtiger11/Panzerfunkwagen/IMG_1016_zps7a2bf9ef.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMG_1016_zps7a2bf9ef.jpg"/></a>

I've started on the AFV Panzerfunkwagen. The suspension is one of the most complicated and detailed I've worked with. The original engineering was incredible but I can also see that it may be fragile in anything but smooth terrain. Anyway so far so good, the undercarriage and wheels are completed and I'm working on the body.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:16 AM

Thanks Stik and all! Well, did I say something about a straight forward build? I got to it last night and one day later here's where she is:

 

 

There's a fair few small detail parts still to add, but I'm close to starting the scratch/superdetailing element. this will involve applique armour on the bow and around the driver's vision port, building the jerry can rack, and adding details on the inner face of the front fenders that were not possible within the limitations of moulding. Some details may be added in wire, also. It's based on Tony Greenland's rendition, and it seems he based his on Bovington Tank Museum's Pz. IV "Special," which began life as an Ausf. D in North Africa colours but ended up with a mixture of characteristics right up to Ausf. H. I trust Mr Greenland's research to have sorted out those details at least as well as I ever might.

I may primer-spray this project, something I don't often do, but the desert scheme will be a lot paler than the panzer grey in which the kit is moulded. The engineering of the kit is marvellous, it practically falls together, it's different as chalk from cheese compared to the Academy knock-offs, which while they are ostensibly the same kits, vary a lot in quality. (Their StuG IV builds nicely, their Pz. IV is a fight.)

I located another of the detail sets I'll be using, a Verlinden crew gear selection:

I have some Verlinden crates on the way, which probably finishes up the stowage selection -- I'll know better when I get to that aspect.

I'll probably put the project aside for a while and concentrate on finishing up some others, but I look forward to bringing this one together, it's a model that looks so good on paper that I'm very keen to add it to my collection.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 9, 2014 2:51 AM

Cool! Thanks ;-)

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 9, 2014 1:20 AM

stikpusher

Tigerman, question for you- since I am at the painting stage now of my Carro Commando, and I have another stalled build, an Italeri 1/35 AS-42 scout car stalled in the painting stage that will use the same color- mind if I share the work on that one here as well? I am making it in North Africa markings.

Not at all, please do.

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 Eric 

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, January 9, 2014 12:07 AM

started my truck. one piece frame which is nice. engine and differentials done. this think has a lot of storage boxes and fuel tanks so working on them, cleaning and filling seams. think i am going to try an engine gray frame with raw umber and black wash to try to get the color i want. tires are plastic but went together well and the seams sanded down w/o putty.

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:09 PM

Gamera

Those look great guys! I can hardly keep up with the posts now they're coming so fast!

Ditto

I was planning on working on my build some more tonight. However, ended up getting out of work lateSad Always tomorrow

David

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:48 PM

Guys:

It's great to see this build is off and running!   I'm still about a month from starting but I'll enjoy watchingIndifferent in the mean time!

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:25 AM

Nice weld seam work there A86!

Mike, you are building one of the classics! I can't wait to see this one in progress. The replacement jerry cans are a must there!

Pordoi, that is beautiful work on the Mk.III so far. I like the open vision port touch!

Earnest- I would not advise wearing those out in public ;-)

Tigerman, question for you- since I am at the painting stage now of my Carro Commando, and I have another stalled build, an Italeri 1/35 AS-42 scout car stalled in the painting stage that will use the same color- mind if I share the work on that one here as well? I am making it in North Africa markings.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:53 AM

Those look great guys! I can hardly keep up with the posts now they're coming so fast!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 11:49 PM

Hi guys, I'm delighted to find this GB moving ahead with the new year, and to get to grips with my contribution. Here's the kit and two of the accessory packs (there'll be some Verlinden items and possibly Legend items as well):

 

This will be the second of my "Tony Greenland Tribute Builds," and I've been looking forward to it a long time. There is some scratchbuilt detailing to do, and I'll be using dry print decals. The main build should be a quick one. I'm still having some difficulties with my airbrush (possibly forgetting to compensate for the warmer weather in the thinning ratio...) but hopefully they'll be resolved soon -- I certainly have plenty of projects waiting for paint!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by armor86 on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 11:40 PM

Don, Pz III coming along well, noted the same problem when I was building the 'J' remember someone who blog about the issue with the hull tabs. Your time period May 1942 would work with the Ausf. J 'Late' - noted photo of #3 vehicle and how / where gear is placed interesting. Continuing work with the 232 - fender install more PE work - noted its in another GB - Armor Car - Armor86

Needs more sanding / finishing

 


Dan

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 6:51 PM

Some additional progress on the PzIIIJ.  Attached the fenders and started adding the superstructure...

when I encountered another of those Dragon instruction "moments".  Take a look at the hull provided in the kit....

Each of the sides has 3 vertical tabs.  And being the trusting kind of guy that I am, I figured that they must be there for a reason......   Nope!  Fenders can't come close to fitting unless these tabs are removed.  Of course, there is nothing in the instructions to indicate this.  But hey, no big deal; it's something that is easy to figure out with a little dry fitting.  What is interesting is that I have 3 online build blogs of this kit and none of them mention that these tabs must be removed.  So let me be the first to publicly say...  cut 'em off before you start the kit because they serve no purpose!  Smile

      One thing I like about Dragon kits is that with a little careful gluing, one can obtain workable vision ports and position them open...

or closed...

The PE grills are very thin and also fit nicely,

And now on to the turret and gun assemblies.

Don

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 1:50 PM

Don, from what you have presented, looks sound to me ... but here's some further confirmation that they were available in time for Gazala:

www.achtungpanzer.com/panzerkampfwagen-iii.htm

In the above link you will find the Mark III special (so nicknamed by the British) was a direct result of the Wehrmacht up gunning the Panzer III to combat the Russian Tanks (such as the T-34 and KV).  The program started in Dec.41 and some were eventually sent to Rommel.  Osprey also states 19 of these L/60 gun panzers were present at the start of the Gazala operation.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 12:02 PM

armor86

Don - .... Pz III Ausf. J didn't arrival until late 1941 - early 1942. The first Pz IIIs were Ausf F, G, and later H arrived as replacements. Tanks with 15. Panzer-Division were of the Ausf H version. All had the 5cm L/42 gun. Long barrel Ausf. J's didn't arrival until May 1942. Armor86

       Thanks, Dan.  Now you got me re-thinking why I chose a vehicle with the L/60 gun (and purchased the metal barrel for the L/60 gun Hmm).  My initial plan was to focus on the May/June 1942 time frame around the Gazala line and Tobruk.  I did some online searches and recall finding some information that PzIIIJ L/60s were involved in Rommel's operation Venezia.  Though par for the course, I didn't save any of those links Super Angry, but do have a .pdf file that lists unit strengths for Rommel's forces.  Here is an excerpt from that document:

On 25 May 1942, 5th Panzer had 29 PzII, 107 PzIII (plus 15 x
PzIII specials with 5cm L60 guns) & 19 PzIV in two battalions.


8th Panzer had 29 PzII, 131 PzIII (plus just 3 x PzIII specials
with 5cm L60 guns) & 22 PzIV in two battalions on the same
date.

So this seems consistent with the Battleline reference indicating that PzIIIJ L/60s were available in late May 1942, although not in great numbers, and they apparently participated in the attempted flanking move around the Gazala line.  I also found this photo which as labeled as being near Tobruk:

The question is whether that is correct, and whether the vehicle pictured is the one shown as an option for the DML kit.

In Frank DeSisto's review of the DML6394 kit, he notes that he confirmed a photograph of Red 3, 8.PzRgt 15.PzDiv Tobruk 1942 in his references.  Don't know if it is the photo above.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/477322/message/1184438421/Kit%2C+DML+6394%2C+Pz-Kpfw-III+Ausf-J+2-in-1+Smart+Kit

Also made some more progress on the kit itself.  Will try to take photos tonight.

Don

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