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Airliner Group Build 2014-2015

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, November 10, 2014 9:33 AM

falconmod

Well I got some of the AVES  epoxy putty and filled in the windows on my DC-10,  so Now I can glue the fuselage together.

Apoxie Sculpt works great in my opinion.  And if you end up with any flaws you can easily use CA glue to fill them in.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, November 10, 2014 9:38 AM

Fly,

CodyJ wants to jump in. He posted on your old thread, and I hopefully was able to redirect him here.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by SubarooMike on Monday, November 10, 2014 12:08 PM

Fly-n-hi

SubarooMike

Hey Fly,  my dad is giving me one of his old kits i'm going to pick up this week.   My questions is: would it be okay for this group build?   Looking at the box, the side of the fus says " Alaska-Washington Airways".  Google says an airliner is a "large passenger aircraft"   I suppose compared to a Cessna 150 it's larger lol  Would you accept it or no?   If not, no worries!

Definitely!  It looks like a cool build!  I say the more the merrier.  

Super-cool; thanks!

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Posted by SubarooMike on Monday, November 10, 2014 12:22 PM

I don't have a LHS, so instead of going with MM Enamel GL White, i'm going to give Krylon GL white a try tonight.   What PSI should I shoot it with through my Badger Patriot?

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Posted by B_one fixer on Friday, November 14, 2014 7:03 PM

Well so far I got the majority of painting done just down to touch up's. I still have to paint the engines. I am going to be finishing up her in the old delta widget livery. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, November 14, 2014 8:32 PM

Looks sweet B1. Nice job.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:00 AM

Nice B_one!  Did you use Alclad II Polished Aluminum or something for the bare metal areas?

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:00 AM

modelcrazy

Fly,

CodyJ wants to jump in. He posted on your old thread, and I hopefully was able to redirect him here.

Ok, thanks.  I'll try to get him over here.

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Posted by B_one fixer on Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:11 AM

Thanks all, Fly I used spaz stix chrome for the belly. Its the alclad of RC hobby world. I have a bunch of the stuff so I decided to use it and save my alclad.

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Posted by SubarooMike on Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:41 PM

  Good day modelers!       

  There is not much going on with my MD-87 and there will not be for a few days. I laid down the first coat of gloss white. After the paint was dry, I wet sanded with 1000 grit to get rid of any defects. Once the gloss white was down I noticed there was a small -- gap -- if you will at the wing root. It was in a really small area so I did not want to use Tamiya putty.  So earlier on today I told my fiance (Victoria) that I wanted to get Perfect Plastic Putty (PPP)  for the job (water clean up so it will be just what the Dr ordered for that job). Next thing I know Victoria bought me a tube of PPP AND three 6mm rolls of Tamiya tape because she knew I was running lowBig Smile  Talk about a lucky chap!   The PP should be here Tuesday so I will continue on the MD-87 then. 

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Posted by SubarooMike on Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 PM

    Two days ago I picked up my AMT 1/48 Vega (floats) from my father.  I was so excited to start it I forgot to take a sprue shot!   I also still have to take a box shot.     I am not sure of the date on this kit. The box does not say and there are no instruction with mine. I would guess its from the 60's -- that makes it about 35 years older then me!  EDIT:  I just read that the kit is from 1953. I'm not sure if that's true or not.

    There is no interior detail with the exception of a bulkhead behind the pilot and the pilot -- who sports a blazer and an eye patch lol  I do no intend to use the pilot.    The kit of molded in off-white plastic. The styrene is not too soft and not too hard. It's perfect.   The clear parts are surprisingly clear (with a coat or two of future they will rival any new kit) and not excessively thick. 

    There was one main problem with my kit. Included was two upper halfs of the cowling -- only two bottoms -- and one was warped. The good news is that the cowling is symmetrical, so the two half's were the same!  A few minutes with a heat gun and the one half had its shape back. I cut the exhaust stacks off and BOOM!  Perfect.  I plan on cutting the other exhaust stacks off as well and drilling two holes and inserting my own stacks.     With the aid of two clamps she came out perfect. With a little sanding the cowling will be good to go 

The fit of the kit is so far very good -- once I cut the alignment pins off other wings, floats, and soon the fus. The tail feathers had none. 

Next order of business was getting rid of the random raised detail around the windows. The full-scale Vega had a wood fus (with the exception of 9 that were metal)  so there were no joints there. A quick sanding got rid of them. (raised detail top and sanded smooth on the bottom)

Once I cut the alignment pins off of the floats they fit rather well. The floats were molded as once piece except for the bottom. That left a seam that needed to be sanded. But all was well because the floats were covered in over-sized rivets and panel lines, so I was going to sand all of that off and rescribe the floats. Once the seam was sanded I only needed a MINIMUM amount of filler.

Nasty seam 

all sanded. You can see a small dot on the float that needed a small dab of filler

Over-sized detail bottom, sanded top (almost finished being sanded) 

The next nasty, yet manageable, seam was on the wings. I provided a HORRIBLE picture, but I seam runs a few mm's in front of the trailing edge, along the aileron, and around the wing tip. A little filler and sanding and she will be gone. In this picture the filler has already been applied but you can barley see it.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, November 17, 2014 10:40 AM

Hey guys, check out page 1 again.  I've added the box art to the roster.  That's what I meant to to in the first place and I just forgot!

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Posted by SubarooMike on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:05 PM

Looking good, Fly!   What grit sandpaper do you start off with normally?

Not much going on today, gents. I started and finished scribing the floats.  It only took 1.5 or so hours but it came out beautifully!   I had to primer the floats before scribing.  I sat down a few nights ago to scribe but its turned out with the plastic being white, I could not see a darn thing I was doing!     The picture does not do it justice -- it looks great in person. Nice and straight despite what the picture depicts!

Until my PPP arrives, I cant really do anything else on the MD87 or Vega :(

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:47 AM

Mike, I start out with those wet/dry sanding sticks from Squadron.  I Use the course grit for the tough areas and then use the medium grit to soften those areas afterwards.  If I can use the medium grit stick in the first place I'll do that instead.

After everything is filled and sanded I'll use a polishing kit that has the 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000 and 12,000 sheets to get it really smooth.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:26 AM

I forgot to mention that I've cut off the nose gear doors.  The bare metal area on the lower part of the fuselage starts right behind the nose gear so I figure it will be much easier to mask if the doors aren't there.  Also, the doors are very thick...way out of scale.  So I will thin them out a bit before I re attach them.

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Posted by B_one fixer on Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:07 PM

Nice seam work Fly!

Well here is my entry. I have not built an airliner in over 20 years, so it was a eye opener and I learned alot for the next time I build another airliner.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:11 PM

Wow, beu-t-ful B!  Yes

I wouldn't have guessed it's been 20 years since you last airliner. I looks like that's your usual subject

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by B_one fixer on Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:18 PM

Thanks MC, Trying to nail the glossy finish was alot more difficult compared to the usual military aircraft I build. but when I do build another airliner it will be a much more enjoyable affair from the lessons learned from this one Big Smile

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Posted by SubarooMike on Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:26 PM

Fly-n-hi

Mike, I start out with those wet/dry sanding sticks from Squadron.  I Use the course grit for the tough areas and then use the medium grit to soften those areas afterwards.  If I can use the medium grit stick in the first place I'll do that instead.

After everything is filled and sanded I'll use a polishing kit that has the 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000 and 12,000 sheets to get it really smooth.

Thanks a lot!

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Posted by SubarooMike on Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:34 PM

Looks great B 1 fixer!CoolYes   Excellent edition to the group build for sure

   Until my PPP arrives tomorrow, I can't work on either of my airliners as of now.  Yesterday I did spray the interior (or lack there of) on the Vega and I sprayed the engine. I also drilled out the cowling in preparation for exhaust stacks. 

   I hope this does not break any rules and upset anyone but since I couldn't work on my airliners tonight, I brought out my Tamiya Mossie to tinker with -- so I decided to post of few pictures of her so far for your viewing pleasure.  Tomorrow she will be ready to close up.   I bought her at an RC airplane swap meet last March for $5 still sealed!     Sorry for the bad quality pictures. So much of the detail and color is lost in them. 

  Scratched harnesses in my PT-17. I thought they turned out nice 

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, November 21, 2014 9:30 AM

B_one, that 737 looks fantastic!  I really like the Delta Widget scheme.  They should go back to that.  Nicely done!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, November 21, 2014 9:32 AM

Wow Mike, the Mosquito cockpit looks really great!  I also like the nav lights.  They look very convincing!

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Posted by jelliott523 on Friday, November 21, 2014 1:02 PM

Just wanted to shout out to let everyone know I was still alive.  It's been a crazy past couple of weeks around 'mi casa'.  I'm just waiting on my decals to arrive from 26decals.  I've got the body of the 787 primed and sanded, had a few ghost seams to take care of as well.  I want to wait until I get the decals before I start painting the colors so I can make a copy of the decals and get the paint lines right.  I'm going to be using Model Master Bright White and Gloss Light Grey for the main areas.  I will be using Alclad for the leading edges, engine components and the ring around the front of the engines.  I may paint the gold strip with metallic gold instead of the decal gold stripe.

On the Bench:  Lots of unfinished projects!  Smile

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Posted by SubarooMike on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:04 PM

Fly-n-hi

Wow Mike, the Mosquito cockpit looks really great!  I also like the nav lights.  They look very convincing!

Thanks a lot!  Its a fantastic kit -- well engineered. 

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Posted by SubarooMike on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:11 PM

Okay, my MD-87 is ready for another batch of white.  But before I airbrush again I needed a spray booth but due to school I don't have much modeling funds.      

Here is what I came up with.    Not pictured is the switch, cord, and filter

Plastic tub: $5.97

Bathroom fan: $13.99

Brackets (2): 1.50

12 nuts and bolts (all used): $1.50

Flexible tubing: $8.00 (Victoria bought that for me)

Extension cord:  Already owned.

Switch: $1.97.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:25 PM

That's the exact same idea I had Mike. Let me know how it works for you.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by B_one fixer on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:52 PM

thats a pretty sweet booth !

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Posted by SubarooMike on Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:20 AM

Thanks B1!            

Steve,  I definitely will do.    I hope the fan is powerful enough -- if not, I can upgrade it eventually

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:15 PM

Yeah, great booth Mike.  I'll be interested to know how it works out, too.  I need to do something like that.

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