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Battle of Britain 75th Anniversary GB

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, July 17, 2015 4:01 PM

Thanks, Andy.  If you do try it, I use a cheap plastic protractor to keep the horizontal stabilizers set at right angles to the vertical fin.  

At the bottom of the protractor, you can see the perpendicular lines.  Hold the protractor at the spot where the horizontal and vertical meet, and make your adjustments before the glue fully sets.

Mostly it works.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lewbud on Friday, July 17, 2015 7:18 PM

moose421

I just found you GB.  I have a question.  I see that most of the aircraft are Allied.  Is this open to the Axis side as well?  I am thinking of getting a Bf 109E-4.

moose

Moose, both sides are welcome.  What kit and scale, and I'll update the front page.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by moose421 on Saturday, July 18, 2015 9:17 PM

Ok, just used up a bunch of my evilbay bucks and ordered the 1/48 Bf 109E-4.  So please sign me up for Eduards 1/48 Bf 109E-4.  I will be doing the following bird.  

W.Nr. 5819, Obstlt. Adolf Galland, Geschwaderkommodore JG 26, Audembert, France – Dec.1940

I have gotten on a Bf  kick as of late and need to do another.

I have to finish up the Bf 109 GB and then will tackle this one.

moose

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Posted by BrandonD on Sunday, July 19, 2015 3:56 AM

I missed the beginning of this due to the fact that I was on vacation and helping the girlfriend move (wah wah I know - I am not complaining) but I was able to get started on my Hurricane today.

It's the new-tool Airfix 1/48 kit, and it looks like a winner so far. The cockpit is mostly together, and I shot it with Tamiya cockpit green. I won't be modeling it with the gun bays open, but Airfix did a pretty good job on them from the looks of it, and if you want one with the gun bays open for a diorama or something, I recommend it.

So this is where it sits right now. Nothing too exciting, but I wanted to get on the board.

-BD-

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:02 PM

The new tools by Airfix are really good.  Yours is coming along very well

 

 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, July 19, 2015 2:32 PM

BD that is gorgeous! I am waiting for one of the local shops to get those kits in so I can snatch one up.  I had the old tool original Airfix kit many years back that I build as IR Gleeds mount. But it was damaged in a move and did not survive. I had been wondering which kit to get as a replacement. Now I know after seeing yours here.

 

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Posted by ajd3530 on Sunday, July 19, 2015 10:35 PM
I will be doing a 1/48 Bf 109E of some sort as a "safety kit" so to speak. My main goal is to build a Cyber Hobby 1/48 Bf 110, but that is alot of kit, and might just not be man enough to finish her by December.
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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, July 20, 2015 8:39 AM

I have a new tool Airfix 1/48 Hurricane on order. Hopefully it'll be here this week and I can get started. Not sure of the markings yet. Your cockpit is looking really good BrandonD! I'll be watching closely and learningYes

Oh and lewbud, I'd talk to the guys over at Airfix about giving you some kind of kickback...I have a feeling they are gonna get a lot of business from this GB! LOL!

-Andy

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Posted by flyerduke on Saturday, July 25, 2015 9:03 AM

I've made a little progress over the last couple weeks.  I'm not sure if the intereior color is correct though.  Airfix calls for the use of Humbrol paint.  The instructions number is 78.  When I go to the Humbrol site and plug that number in, it show the paint is RLM 78.  Since I have Vallejo RLM 78, I decided to use it.  I think it's a little more gray than green.  I decided to stick with it.  Maybe someone can steer me in the right direction for the next time.

Ah shoot!  Looks like I inserted the photos in the wrong order.

Craig

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, July 25, 2015 10:53 AM

That looks very good, Craig.  Coming along nicely!

The RAF used a color called "Interior Green."    It's available from several manufacturers.  I use enamels, so I use Model Masters and also still have some from WEM's Colourcoats.

Here's a link to a UK site that discussed the issue.

www.britmodeller.com/.../index.php

I think that the color you picked looks fine.  There were no doubt some variations, and even MM and WEM's interpretations are somewhat different..  

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, July 25, 2015 4:26 PM

rooster513

I have a new tool Airfix 1/48 Hurricane on order. Hopefully it'll be here this week and I can get started. Not sure of the markings yet. Your cockpit is looking really good BrandonD! I'll be watching closely and learningYes

Oh and lewbud, I'd talk to the guys over at Airfix about giving you some kind of kickback...I have a feeling they are gonna get a lot of business from this GB! LOL!

As long as the kickback was in kits, it would be a deal!  They've got a new tool Wildcat that looks freaking incredible.  Can be built with wings folded or extended.  I don't normally build the losers, but their new Val looks like it will end up on my shelf as well.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, July 25, 2015 4:29 PM

Ajd, just let me know and I'll make the necessary change.

Craig, I hope my Spit comes out as nice as yours.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Raven728 on Saturday, July 25, 2015 8:31 PM

Yeah, looking great Craig. I use MM Acryl "RAF Interior Green". Looks close enough to my eye when I compare to pics online.

Well, the missing cockpit never did turn up, despite my turning the entire house upside-down looking for it. I couldn't find any resin pits that seemed worth buying (most of them are just a seat), so I bought a Revell mk.ii kit to scavenge for parts. It turned out that the Revell kit doesn't have a floor, so I used the seat and cobbled everything together using styrene strip for a floor. Since it's barely visible anyway I'm not too worried about it. Anyway, here are some update pics after installing the pit and adding the wings. One of, if not the best wing/fuselage fits I've ever seen.

- Steve

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  • From: Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Posted by moose421 on Saturday, July 25, 2015 8:44 PM

Nice save Raven, on the scratch building missing parts.  I feel you pain I have had it happen to much. Just not a large piece like the whole pit.

Looking good.

moose

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Posted by ajd3530 on Saturday, July 25, 2015 11:17 PM
For the 109 "safety build" I'll be doing a Pegasus 1/48 Bf 109E-4. This will be my first attempt at mottling, so an inexpensive kit is ideal.

For the 110, I'll be using the 1/48 Cyber Hobby Bf 110E-2 kit and dressing it up as a C-3 or -4. That is unless anyone can point out any noticeable cosmetic differences other than armament.
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Posted by Raven728 on Sunday, July 26, 2015 6:56 PM

Thanks, Moose. Naturally, I found the missing pit today. Lol! If I couldn't laugh I'd lose it.

- Steve

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  • From: Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Posted by moose421 on Sunday, July 26, 2015 11:10 PM

Hahaha, it always works that way.  I found an oxygen regulator for my Bf 110 just recently.

moose

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Posted by BrandonD on Monday, July 27, 2015 12:46 AM

Thank you, Stikpusher and Rooster. It's not as polished as some kits, but its fun to put together, and I like the engineering of it so far.

Craig - nice Spitfire! Looks like 1/72? I don't know how you can make those look so nice in such a small scale.

Steve - You, too, have a great-looking Spitfire. I think the scratchbuilt cockpit floor is great and more than does the job. Plus now you have the fun of knowing it's all your work and took more than gluing a few bits together from a kit.

-BD-

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Posted by BrandonD on Monday, July 27, 2015 1:00 AM

Alright, I had some time with my Hurricane again. I used a leftover Eduard PE compass from my Spitfire VIII kit, the Airfix instrument panel decal, and a decal from a Tamiya Spitfire V kit for the harness. I don't love the harness decal, but I suppose it's better than nothing. I probably should have used tape, but I may close up the cockpit, in which case it will not matter.

I got the majority of the large parts together. The wing tops went down over the spars and the lower wings really well, and the cockpit sat nicely. I then glued the fuselage halves together and glued them on top of the cockpit/wings. **Those building this kit, here's a tip** - The fuselage halves do not cover the bottom (it is a separate piece for the underside of the nose, and a separate piece for the underside from the rear of the wings to the tailwheel. When I added those parts, there was a 0.5 mm step from them to the bottom of the wings (when sitting upright, the wings hang slightly lower than the fuselage). To fix this, I would probably sand down the wing roots slightly, or consider inserting a small strip of styrene to space the lower fuselage parts. In my case, some filler feathered into the front and rear of the wing will have to suffice.

I hope that makes sense, since it reads confusingly to me even now, but hopefully if you're looking at the parts it will make sense.

So here it is now - looking like a plane.

And here's a closeup of the instrument panel. It's a decal, and it went down well with some Micro Sol.

Next up is some filling of seams and then getting the elevators, rudder and a few other assorted parts mounted. Then paint!

-BD-

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, July 27, 2015 12:07 PM

Hey guys, great stuff going on in here! Yes

Regarding the 110 question:

ajd3530
For the 109 "safety build" I'll be doing a Pegasus 1/48 Bf 109E-4. This will be my first attempt at mottling, so an inexpensive kit is ideal.

For the 110, I'll be using the 1/48 Cyber Hobby Bf 110E-2 kit and dressing it up as a C-3 or -4. That is unless anyone can point out any noticeable cosmetic differences other than armament.

Only detail I notice different is the E-2 had the back end of the fuselage extended in order to carry a dinghy.  It also had improved engines, but assuming Eduard did their homework, no external changes according to their Royal boxing instructions of the 110 C/D/E:

http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/r0005.pdf

regards,

Jack

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, July 27, 2015 8:36 PM

Nice work on the cockpit, BD.  Very effective painting.  It looks excellent.

Another entry in the "lost" department.  One of the clear wing lenses from my Airfix 1/72 Hurricane went missing last night.  I ordered a replacement part from Airfix, but it'll take a while to get here.

I think I'll just begin another one, and work on that until the missing part arrives.

I loathe the carpet monster--but this piece disappeared into the kitchen tile!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BrandonD on Saturday, August 1, 2015 1:45 AM

Thanks, Checkmateking. As for the "lost" entry - I hate when that happens. I tend to find them with the vacuum cleaner... "click click click...gone for good."

-BD-

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Posted by moose421 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:15 AM

Hahaha Brandon.  Mine I hear the twink as it launches from my tweezers.  If I am lucky I might hear it hitting somewhere in my shop.  As for finding them, HA no chance.

Kim

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 10:26 AM

I hear y'all's pain.  

Received an email back from Airfix.  They're asking for 8 GBP (a little less than $13) for postage and packaging to send me new parts.  i also requested a Spitfire wing to replace one incompletely molded when it came out of the box.

The Hurricane kit didn't cost that much--not to mention the cost of an overseas phone call to give them my credit card info, plus the exchange fee charged by the credit card company.

So I'm just going to start a new kit and hope the missing part turns up somewhere on the table or the floor.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by ajd3530 on Monday, August 3, 2015 4:45 PM
Here is my safety build, 1/48 Pegasus Bf-109E-4. I know some of you may turn your nose up at an E-Z snap kit, but they really aren't bad kits. Plus they can be had of the internet, shipped to your front door, for less than $15 USD. Which is pefect, since this will be my first attempt at mottling. So if I screw it up beyond repair, I am not out that much. I have also done the P-51B from Pegasus, and while I feel the Mustang had better fit, this Emil has better engraved detail in my opinion.


The cockpit is kinda sparten, but you don't build one of these kits to super detail. The canopy will remain closed, so I'm ok with it. I brush painted the interior instead of airbrushing to save time.. Never going to do that again.






I cut some Evergreen strip for the coolant radiators so the wouldn't be see through.




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Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 12:53 AM

ajd - Absolutely nothing wrong with building a Pegasus or other snap kit. The single most important thing is that you enjoy the hobby and have fun building. I built one of their Hurricanes before I had airbrushing down, and I didn't want to foul up my Tamiya Bf-109. And you know what? I learned a LOT doing it and had tons of fun. I also learned to shoot my clear coats with an airbrush, because I was way too heavy-handed on the rattle cans.

What did I do with the model? Well, I sailed it right into the trash can after a few months of completion, but it served its purpose, taught me a lot, and I had fun with it. I'm looking forward to seeing yours, and hopefully it comes out great and gets a proud spot on your shelf.

-BD-

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Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 1:00 AM

So, speaking of Hurricanes (If you read my previous post, you know why there's a Hurricane-sized hole in my collection), here is an update.

I shot my base coat of black tonight, and I used Model Master flat black enamel thinned with Tamiya Lacquer Thinner 1:1 at 20 psi. It was a really light coat, and I let it dry an hour and half before I hit it with 12,000-grit Micro Mesh cloth.

I really was planning to wait till tomorrow to shoot the first color coat, but I lack discipline and patience, and I figured if I thinned my Tamiya acrylics with the same lacquer thinner, I can probably get away with it without worrying about paint curing issues. I shot it with Tamiya Sky/Lacquer Thinner 1:2 around 17 psi.

Well, it looks awful at the moment, but I'll come back (hopefully) tomorrow and hit the insides of the panels with a 50/50 mix of Sky and Flat White, then micro mesh it, then hit it with the blend coat to even out the shades.

Again, since I always forget and have to hunt through old posts when I find others' work and wonder, this is the 2015 tooling of the Airfix 1/48 Hurricane Mk.I.

Cheers,

-BD-

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Posted by ajd3530 on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 1:06 AM
The cockpit put together. I suppose it is adequate for a closed canopy build. I hate to say, but the stick and seat suck. But, for $12.99, and to be an E-Z snap, I can look past that. (a recurring theme for this kit.) I added some belts to try to cover up the seat.






The canopy, like the rest of the kit, has large locking pins to attatch the parts. But the canopy fits extremely well, so I am removing the rear pin. With that in mind, I patched up the large hole that it would normally go in.




With the several locking lugs, plus some Tamiya extra thin cement, the fusalage halves are NEVER going to come apart again.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 1:39 AM
Brandon, I actually had planned on getting one of their Hurricanes soon, from the research i have done, it looksquite nice, better than the old tool Airfix and the Monogram kit, and a third of the price of the Hasegawa kit. And i have seen the Fw 190 worked up very well too

I feel you on the whole air brushing clear coat deal. That is going to be one of my next big technique learning steps. The last two Walmarts in the area to carry any kind of modeling stuffs just recently quite selling the Testors rattle can clear lacquers altogether. And with the almost $6-7 a can you have to pay at HobbyTown or Honby Lobby, that method just isn't economical anymore.
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Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 1:45 AM

ajd - I don't know how close you are to a Hobby Lobby, but I'm lucky to be about 2 miles from one, and I am not above using their 40-percent-off coupon to buy one can of primer or bottle of paint :)

That said, I really do like the Aclad clear coat for the gloss, and the Tamiya dull coat for my finish. I hear Tamiya is also coming out with a semi-matte, which will be really nice for the Luftwaffe birds, and possibly the RAF ones?

-BD-

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