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Posted by Bish on Monday, October 3, 2016 11:55 PM

I hope your able to get some work in on that soon Moff.

I was woundering about the maus, haven't seen tates around in a while.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Moff on Monday, October 3, 2016 5:50 PM

@Gamera: No, I haven't got any more done, and sorry for taking two weeks to respond! Like I said, I'm really busy now...I wish I had time to work on the kit, but I don't Sad Chances are I won't get enough time this year to finish the kit. I really should have taken advantage of the summer.... 

@DanTheMan: The torii gate looks great, and I love the 110's scheme! German camo is always the best. 

@Everybody: Great job on your respective projects! And whatever happened to that Maus?

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, October 3, 2016 2:53 PM
Nice work on the camo Dan.

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, October 3, 2016 2:07 PM

Thanks dan, its the same for me on the figures. The last couple of years mine have really come along. Just somthing i need to do more of.

Nice job on the masking and the paint job looks good. For years i have been menaing to make myself a painting stand but never get around to it. I really must make that a priority.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Monday, October 3, 2016 2:02 PM

Thanks Joe. Looking forward to seeing those marking applied on the Corsair.

Bish: Great detail paint on your figures, that's a area that I'm slowly improving on. Diorama is coming along great, those looks like real bricks in the street.

Thanks Mustang.

Thanks Johnny: I did break of two antennas, there easily glued back on with CA glue. The ones in the front have come flex to them. Nice work & paint job on the twin Mustangs.

Thanks Tony: Great work on the Spit, the free hand camouflage looks excellent.

Gamera: Diorama is lookin' great.

Finished up airbrushing RLM 02 on the main landing gear & the intake next to it. I used model master #2071, in two light coats. Again I airbrushed at 10 PSI to minimize the over spray. Can't say it enough how the balsa wood stand on the turntable makes airbrushing so much easier and quicker.

This morning I removed the mask's and only had to spots in the flat black area peal up.

You can also see the RLM 83 blotches on the tail and rear fuselage. All that's left is touch ups with the airbrush.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 3, 2016 7:24 AM

TJ: Some really nice work there on the double-stang. The NM looks great and I too love those cool nose markings. 

 

And thanks guys! That does help confirm that I'm on the right track. Gosh it's annoying to keep staring at something and thinking it needs something but you're not sure what on earth it would be- I guess 'real' artists get the same attitude at times. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, October 3, 2016 5:33 AM

Johnny: For such an old kit it looks like you are making it shape up nicely. BTW, love the nose colors!

Gamera: That ...............fits! Looks like you've tied it all together with those additions! As I said earlier regarding armor..............there aint no way, no way I'll takle  a project like that anytime soon. It would be sensory overload for me. Indifferent

Everybody: I'm back to work on the Arado instrument panel , which is a small kit in itself!! Will be posting pics soon.

                   

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Posted by Bish on Monday, October 3, 2016 12:45 AM

Thanks G, i must to pop in there and post my results and thank everyone.

I do like the cherry blossoms, they are add a nice touch to the scene. Me and the Mrs recently watched a 2 part series with Joanna Lumley traveling the length of Japan. Some stunning sceneri and amazing buldings over there, it made me thing of your build.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, October 3, 2016 12:42 AM

tempestjohnny

Progress. I have to keep telling myself this is a 45 year old kit

 

Thats looking nice, love the nose markings.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, October 3, 2016 12:40 AM

JOE RIX
 
Bish
Joe, i just need some checking and VF-84 was disestablished in Oct 45. So had the war carried on, it would most likely have remained active. So you could have stil gone with the original. But i must admit i like the Montex option.

 

Thanks Bish. I like how you think.

But, this just opened up a a can of worms for me as I'm dealing with an inner conflict. You see, I come from a family of Navy pilots and thus, that is where my main interest lies. So, when I model USN aircraft I focus strictly on them. Certainly nothing against the USMC, it's simply my family heritage. I mean, come on, everyone knows that US Navy pilots are the greatest fliers in the world. Right?Wink. With that said, I really do like the VMF-512 markings and will likely stick with them. 

 

And now you have just cleared something up for me. So VF are navy squardrons and VMF are marines. Obvious really, but i never spotted that.

Ther eis a saying over here which dates from when the RN were said to get the best pilots and the Army was winning all the sailing regattes.

Fly Navy, sail Army and walk sideways.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, October 2, 2016 11:47 PM

TJ: That is some excellent progress. That's one sharp paint job you've pulled off. You're doing that old kit some righteous justice.

Gam: That is an excellent improvement. I like it. I like it a lot. I prefer the cherry blossoms on the tank also. Nice work my friend.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:59 PM

Btw: I did get a little more done here. I went with Jack's advice on pre-shading and adding black areas to the torii gate. And Bish's advice on staining the muffler on the tank. But you might have noticed I've been sitting on this for two friggin' months since my 'completed' photos.

It still was lacking something. Just looked kinda bland and sterile to me. Then I saw these Japanese cherry trees and thought they looked awesome. I haven't seen any Shinto shrines with the trees planted near a torii gate but the cherry trees in bloom make me think of Japan and plus to me at least some plant life takes away the sterile look of war machines and gravel.

I went and repainted the geisha to red, pink, and white to match the torii gate and trees. So now all the civilian stuff fits that colour scheme and the military stuff is green, yellow, and brown. There's probably some fancy word for doing things that way I forgot from my college art classes.

Anyway a few more things I need to fix and hopefully (cross your fingers) I'm done. Any other advice would be great!

I tried the tank with cherry blossums on it and without them. I think with looks better, what do you guys think?

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:58 PM

Progress. I have to keep telling myself this is a 45 year old kit

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:45 PM

Wow guys, heck of a weekend here!

Tony: Absolutly beautiful Spit there. I don't think I've seen a Belgian one built but she looks sharp!

Bish: Nice work on the figures and the street and wrecked house are top notch work. I followed the thread you had going on the diorama section of the forum and you really put that great information to use there.

Joe: What can I say? I like all of those Corsair schemes! And if the war were prolonged who's to say that some of the disbanded squadrons might have stuck around a little longer?

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, October 2, 2016 11:34 AM

Bish
Joe, i just need some checking and VF-84 was disestablished in Oct 45. So had the war carried on, it would most likely have remained active. So you could have stil gone with the original. But i must admit i like the Montex option.

Thanks Bish. I like how you think.

But, this just opened up a a can of worms for me as I'm dealing with an inner conflict. You see, I come from a family of Navy pilots and thus, that is where my main interest lies. So, when I model USN aircraft I focus strictly on them. Certainly nothing against the USMC, it's simply my family heritage. I mean, come on, everyone knows that US Navy pilots are the greatest fliers in the world. Right?Wink. With that said, I really do like the VMF-512 markings and will likely stick with them. 

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, October 2, 2016 11:23 AM

Bish
Am i reading that right, does that Montex set include decals. I thought all there sets were just masks, i have a set for the Airfix 24th Stuka. Not tried masks for markings yet though. So i will be keen to see how these go.

They do indeed include decals for the insignia and for all other markings except the white striping. Those they provide only the masks for.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, October 2, 2016 11:11 AM

Joe, i just need some checking and VF-84 was disestablished in Oct 45. So had the war carried on, it would most likely have remained active. So you could have stil gone with the original. But i must admit i like the Montex option.

Am i reading that right, does that Montex set include decals. I thought all there sets were just masks, i have a set for the Airfix 24th Stuka. Not tried masks for markings yet though. So i will be keen to see how these go.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:58 AM

So, I had pretty much decided on which markings I was going to do my Corsair in when I met with the effects of an aging brain. I had in mind to do this:

This is a Corsair from VF-84 serving on USS Bunker Hill. It is the kit decals and I swore the instructions said 1946. But, when I double checked in preparation for painting there it was in black & white, 1945. What the...? So, a little research was in order and much to my dismay I find that VF-84 was inactive by 1946. Time to punt.

Decals are provided in the kit for a Corsair of Marine Squadron VMF-312 out of Okinawa:

But, again, the instructions indicated an aircraft from 1945. Research into VMF-312 indicates though that it was indeed active in early 1946. Thus, I had this option.

I thus began a search for other decal options and came across this beauty from Montex:

Again, the decals indicate aircraft from 1945. More research on my part found that VMF-512 was active in the Pacific until Feb. 1946. Yahtzee! This decal set arrived in my mailbox just the other day.

Now, I realize that I may be stretching this a bit as I'm unsure if these exact aircraft were active in 1946. This coupled with the fact that it was during this period that the USN was transitioning to the F4U-4. But, I figure, what the heck, this is a what if GB. As such, I hope that my efforts with the F4U-1D will still fly here.

The Montex set is really sweet and it has me very tempted to try a first. That is to use their masks to paint the insignia. I have some trepidation as I'm so used to and confident in decals. Yet, I believe I am up to the challenge

In the meantime, I've been working on some of the fiddly bits. I've wired some brake lines on the landing gear and working on the ignition wires for the rockets. I've also just received Quickboost's resin cowling flaps that are designed to run a wire around the inside to simulate the cable operating system. It will be a nice touch. Also got the props painted and just need to paint the hub. 

I hope to get some pics here soon of some of my progress. Unfortunately, I'm running into the part of the year where bench time is challenging. In addition to the milder weather inviting yard work and hiking, there is the fact that Denver Bronco football season is in full swing (and they're looking every bit the Super Bowl champions) and Utah Jazz Basketball is about to start. Simply put, I don't miss games.Big Smile.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:28 AM

Thanks Joe, much appreciated. As i mentioned, its my first Urban dio, so i know theres a bit of tweaking to do in the future. Its a lot more work that rural ones but does give more interest. I do need to get some furniture so i can fit out future buildings a bit more.

And thats 2 great looking Spits we have had. I need to be careful, next thing i know i will be building one.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, October 2, 2016 9:38 AM

Tony, great looking Spit, those Belgian markings really set it apart.  Yes

regards,

Jack

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, October 2, 2016 9:18 AM

Bish: WOW! That is very very impressive. I absolutely love what you have done with your base. It looks all the realistic part. I got to help judge the dioramas at WestFest contest and it definitely gave me new insight. Not to the critical side but, rather, what to appreciate in what folks put into them. And, now, I have a vast and deeper appreciation for the outstanding work you put into your bases.

Tony: That is one catching Spitfire. you have done a remarkable job on it overall. Heck, if you can build a Spitfire that catches Bish's attention, then you must be a master. Wink Thanks so much for sharing your awesome skills with us. It was a real pleasure.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, October 2, 2016 6:58 AM

Whadda job on that Spitfire Tony! Spankin' it the whole way man! spank_zpseqphmcbs.gif

                   

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, October 2, 2016 6:23 AM

Thanks Tony, and WOW. I am not a fan of the Spit, but thats one really nice example. I do like how you did the camera port and those markings really suit it. Nice weathering as well. I think i will use the seco0nd pic which shows the port and will put that up later. Thank you very much for showing that here and being in the group.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:59 AM

Bish, that building, road and the figures are looking really, really good. I am looking forward to seeing it progress.

Dan, I like the step by step on the camo on that 110. 

I finally got around to finishing my Spitfire FR XIV, Belgian Air Force, 1946. You can use any photo for the first page.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:29 AM

Thanks guys.

Joe, ye, i know what you mean. I have having to restrain myself or this would never get finished.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, October 2, 2016 4:31 AM

Dan: Excellent....How you did all that painting with the antennas sticking out of the nose I'll never know.Bow Down

 

Bish:  There you go doing a fine job building targets againToast

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, October 2, 2016 3:51 AM

Dan: Your hard work is paying off buddy! I use acrylics almost exclusively and can definitely agree to thier difficulty in using. Even with a flow aid they're still tricky. Results are great but the work to acheive it is unbelievable.

Bish: That's some fancy work you're pulling off there as well. This is one area of modeling that I haven't ventured in to yet. Probably because, knowing how I am, I'll go completely overboard with that as well!

                   

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, October 2, 2016 1:14 AM

Time to show what i have been doing the past couple of weeks. Firstly, the figures. These were finished off with an oil wash over the camouflage and all the missing bits added. Once they are on the base, i will use some pigments to tie them better into the base.

And that base has been my main focus. It has been slow going, but i have just been making this up as i go along and i am pretty pleased with the results.

The road and path were painted with Tamiya German grey mixed with a little black. The path was then dry brush with oils and for the cobbles, i took a selection of grey and brown oils and went over individual stones.

The house was painted Humbrol brick red which was followed with Humbrol Pale stone for the mortar. This was the most time consuming bit. I then mxed differant batches of brick red with various oils, orange, browns and so on,and went over the bricks.

This was followed with a coat of Alclad aqua clear to protect the oils and enamels and it was all given a raw Umber oil wash. I wash very happy with how this came out, especially the house.

The inside also got some attention. Starting down stairs i added real cloth carpet from Reality in scale. This is really great product you can feel the texture. I then added some skirting boards with was a thin strip of balsa painted gloss white, followed by the wallpaper, also from Reality in scale.

After painting upstairs a light green, i added the ceiling/floor between the ground and first floor. For the lath and plater ceiling i use balsa wood, styene strip for the lath and celluclay for the plaster.

For the rendered wall i wanted a yellow/green colour. There are a lot of houses around where i live with coloured plaster on the outside walls, many in this colur. I was going to try and mix my own but whne i was looking through my Tamiya colours i spotted there yellow green which i had forgotten i had. Its not a colur i use often. And it was perfect.

And thats it for now. Just got to add the rubble and some final bts and pieces. The small open patch to one side of the house will be a small bit of garden. Going to add some grass and flowers to that, then a small bit of fence. Should be wrapping this up soon.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, October 1, 2016 8:52 PM

Excellent Dan. Your overall paint work is tremendous. And all of that patient puttying and sanding has really paid off. It all looks sharp and clean.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Friday, September 30, 2016 3:50 PM

Thanks Bish & Gamera.

Really happy with how the paint has gone done. Just finished up the second coat of XF-1 flat black, the next color to apply is RLM 83 in small blotches. Followed by RLM 02 to the main landing gear.

 

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