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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 11:34 AM

Trabi: The colours are a little bright and stark but otherwise doesn't look half bad. As you say the weathering, washes, etc should tone her down some. 

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Posted by lostagain on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:00 PM

Trabi,

That is a real pain, but thanks for sharing with good humour. 

After the red coat I was thinking more of Warhammer, but yes I can see this tiger in Girls und Panzer. Big in Japan, models available...

No progress on the MB5, just back from holiday.

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Posted by Trabi on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:51 PM

When everything starts to go wrong!

 

Episode 3:

 

Well, that red propably can be fixed with filtering. So more paint. Green was next... And I took the WRONG CAN! This time too dark! Too late to suck it back, when your pants are full of...Zip it!

Oh well. This is good opportunity to practice filtering skills! Or then I just turn it to winter camo at the end.

Dunkelgelb looked okStick out tongue

 

Does anyone else get that feeling, that this tank just needs few anime girls climbing on top of it?

 

END OF PART 3

TO BE CONTINUE...

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Posted by Trabi on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:34 PM

When everything starts to go wrong!

 

Episode 2:

 

I started to paint Tiger. I choosed same camo for it than was used in Sturms. Red brown base, bigger green areas and dunkelgelb lines.

Well... that red brown what I used was more red than brown! On the lid it looked ok, but when sprayed it was red.

Only pictures what I found was these two taken with my crappy cell phone camera.

 

END OF PART 2

"Space may be the final frontier, but it´s made in Hollywood basement." RHCP, Californication

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Posted by Trabi on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:23 PM

Hi guys! Some progress with Tiger.

 

Or should I say...

 

When everything starts to go wrong!

 

Episode 1:

 

The kit looked very crispy and with just minor flashes. All parts went together smoothly. Untill I noticed, that I had installed few rows of wheels backwards. Parts were in right place, but should face other way. From instructions you couldn´t see that. Difference between the sides is so minor, that it is hard to see untill you try to fit tracks. So, some violence and everything was ok.

Photoetched zimmerits went in place with just little filing from here and there.

And in progress pictures.... ARE GONE!!Super Angry I am sure, that I took those, but when I started to download those from camera I couldn´t find any! That camera is new to me, so I must had to screw up with it somehow.

END OF PART 1

 

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Posted by Moff on Friday, June 10, 2016 4:15 PM

Bish

Getting slaves to build your war machines is not the best idea in the world is it. I have herad that the V-2 rockets were sabotaged as well.

 

 

Let's create enemies and then let them handle all of our explosives! Great idea!

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, June 10, 2016 1:50 PM

Thanks BD, i'll watch that later.

Getting slaves to build your war machines is not the best idea in the world is it. I have herad that the V-2 rockets were sabotaged as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by BrandonD on Friday, June 10, 2016 1:04 PM

Thanks, Gamera. And yeah, desperation causes a lot of that, unfortunately.

In the video I linked above, the He-162 pilot talks about how there were 65 pilots in his unit in December of '44, and by sometime from March to May, there were only 5 left. And none had been lost to enemy action.

He mentions how the slave laborers who built them would file partway through a control cable, and under stress it would snap.

-BD-

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 10, 2016 8:06 AM

Looks like a nice kit BD and the instrument panel looks perfect!

From what I'd read the Reich was getting right up to the dividing line between regular hardware and 'suicide weapons' with stuff like this.    

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Posted by BrandonD on Friday, June 10, 2016 1:25 AM

Bish,

here is the video. I've watched about 20 minutes. He mentions the glue issues. Yikes!

http://youtu.be/xmJqjx9VVKM

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Posted by BrandonD on Friday, June 10, 2016 1:24 AM

Thanks, Joe! Although I think there is a lot of great work that I'm seeing from a lot of modelers.

-BD-

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, June 9, 2016 9:44 PM

Well Brandon, you are simply a vital part of all the awesomeness going on here. Your Spatz looks excellent so far. Excited for more that's for sure.

And a bit of an update from me humble bench. Shot the black primer on the cockpit parts tonight and just might get the interior green on tomorrow. Also, I have got a few of the cockpit PE bits folded and ready for installation.

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Posted by Moff on Thursday, June 9, 2016 9:42 PM

Bish

 

 
Moff

I'm waiting for a Voyager turned metal muzzle brake I ordered from Down Under, it's supposed to come before the end of the month. I'll be laying low until then, but I'll still be keeping tabs on the GB.

BTW, how's that Maus kit coming along? Please pardon, but I don't know name of the individual building it, I'm very bad with remembering names. 

 

 

 

 

Have you not ben able to track that barrel down closer to home, surprised you are having to get one from Oz.

tates is doing the Dragon 35th maus, is that the one you mean. I am hopeing we get to see some of that soon.

 

I could have bought the barrel from Hong Kong, but it was actually cheaper from Australia. And from my experience with Hong Kong eBay stores, Australia would likely be faster shipping too...

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:34 PM

Moff

I'm waiting for a Voyager turned metal muzzle brake I ordered from Down Under, it's supposed to come before the end of the month. I'll be laying low until then, but I'll still be keeping tabs on the GB.

BTW, how's that Maus kit coming along? Please pardon, but I don't know name of the individual building it, I'm very bad with remembering names. 

 

 

Have you not ben able to track that barrel down closer to home, surprised you are having to get one from Oz.

tates is doing the Dragon 35th maus, is that the one you mean. I am hopeing we get to see some of that soon.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:32 PM

I think they did solve the glue problem, but still not something i would want to be worrying about. I have heard that despite the 162 being intended to be flown by Hitler Youth with very little flying tie, it was very tricky to fly and even experianced pilots found it tough to handle. If you can track that down, would be nice if you could post the link.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:18 PM

Thanks, Bish. I didn't know that about the glue. Scary. There's a YouTube video somewhere out there with a pilot who flew one of these when he was something like 16. I think it's an hour long, and I will try to track it down and watch it before I finish it. Should be interesting.

-BD-

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Posted by Moff on Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:39 PM

I'm waiting for a Voyager turned metal muzzle brake I ordered from Down Under, it's supposed to come before the end of the month. I'll be laying low until then, but I'll still be keeping tabs on the GB.

BTW, how's that Maus kit coming along? Please pardon, but I don't know name of the individual building it, I'm very bad with remembering names. 

 

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:19 PM

Really nice BD, great job on the pit. Look forward to seeing more.

I would not have wanted to fly one of these. The Germans had real issues with the glue they used for the wooden wings.

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, June 9, 2016 12:48 PM

Alright, I keep seeing all the awesome work in here, and it inspired me to get going on my jet.

This is Tamiya's 1/48 He-162 Salamander, or Spatz, which is cool since that's my mom's maiden name.

Anyway, this kit is typical Tamiya awesomeness, and the problems I've run into are entirely of my doing.

This plane was a sort of last-ditch effort that had a dorsal-mounted jet engine with a metal body and wooden wings. It also had an ejection seat (you had to eject PAST the jet intake!) It's small -- the wingspan is about 2/3 of a MiG-3, which is itself pretty small, and I think it is just a cool-looking airplane. Plus I got to see a surviving one at Planes of Fame a couple of months ago. I will be building this one with a fairly fresh paint job because many of them weren't fully painted in real life (bare metal and putty dominating). But I think if the war had continued, they would have been painting them.

Here is the fuselage. I installed the gear bay and most of the cockpit on one side before closing it up. Bay is Model Master RLM 02 and the pit is Tamiya German Grey.

Tamiya included the weight, which I always appreciate, and plastic tabs keep it in place so it doesn't roll around.

Here is the IP, which is a decal included in the kit. For the markings, I have a Kagero book with Cartograf-printed decals, which I'm looking forward to using.

This is really a quick-building kit. In the photo below, I have done some seam work, and masked for primer to verify they are ok. The rear end of the jet mount is actually visible, and I fortunately realized it before installing the engine. So the putty is drying as I type.

I sprayed primer and fixed theunderside seams. Tamiya has two duplicate prues in this kit, which is nice because I messed up the engine cover with some really bad seam work, so I was able to replace it. It also comes with two sets of gear doors, and each are one piece. So I was able to cut both sets apart and use the extra one as masks. The central (black) part is fixed, and the doors open outward. This just makes masking super easy, and as you see, I've got the spares off it, as the locator tabs prevent them from being installed in the closed position.

I'm hoping to get a final primer coat on it tonight and start painting this weekend.

-BD-

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 9, 2016 7:45 AM

Sounds cool Trabi. I haven't built many 1/72nd armour kits but this one looks pretty nice esp with the Eduard zimmerit.  

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, June 8, 2016 1:34 AM
Like it Trabi, let's see the Tiger ! Cheers Tony

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, June 8, 2016 12:41 AM

Well, its a good story true or not. I am looking forward to it.

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Posted by Trabi on Tuesday, June 7, 2016 7:01 PM

Thanks guys!

Well this based on story what I heard several years ago from one guy. His deceased neighbour had told him, that he was working on cargo ship during ww2. Once they were commanded to go to get German military surplus from some Baltic country.

They arrived to huge depot where was rows of tanks etc. There was only few persons left and they asked from someone who was in charge, that what they can take. He said that they can take what ever they want, after they have left they will destroy the rest.

They found that there was Tiger also. They tryed to take it, but it didn´t fit in from any hatch and that ship wasn´t that big, that it wouldn´t fit on deck either. They spent hours to figure out how to fit it in, but in the end they had to leave it there.

Well that´s the story, but I can´t confirm it from anywhere. Not even year. I´ve been asking from people, but no one have ever heard anything like that before. Only me and my wife have heard that. And I have no idea who that guy was. We were talking with him when we were selling our stuff at fleemarket.

Nice story anyway. Even if it isn´t true. After all we had 59 Sturmgeschütz III tanks during -43-44. And negotiations to get Panthers were held. So it would be possible that we could have 1946 Tigers also.

1:72 scale is fine for me, because then I have more room for them. Wink  Some details to add are bit p***a. Nowdays it have started to feel, that I need more microscope than glasses.Geeked

Because that kit have also older roadwheels I decided to built it as mid production Tiger. That would be more presumable version to have here, than late version.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:06 PM

Nice Trabi. What a cool subject. This will be very fun to watch you build. What can I say, got a love the fact that you are building in 1/72 scale. Especially armor, don't see that all to often.

Joe

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:02 PM

Thats a nice idea Trabi. So is this a German tank passed on to the Finnish when the Germans introduced their new tanks, i like it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Trabi on Tuesday, June 7, 2016 2:59 PM

Hi Bish!

I would like to attend this GB. Hope this one what I have in my mind fits here.

I have Revell 1:72 Tiger 1 E and I like to build it in Finnish markings.

The kit:

Parts:

I got photoetched zimmerits to this for free so I think I should use them:

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:21 PM

Great work Moff. Appears to be well on this side of outstanding.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:57 PM

Looks pretty good to me so far Moff.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:46 AM

Coming on nicely Colin. I hate taking pics of my builds, as often as not they reveal some flaw i missed or the pics are just terrible.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:44 AM

I thionk your being a bit hard on yourself there Moff. From what i can see, its looking nice. And if the filling looks a bit rough, just put that down to a rushed job getting it built for the front line Wink

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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