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Posted by JayW on Sunday, January 3, 2016 7:06 PM

GMorrison

I'm pretty sure that she had a camo pattern of 507B (medium grey) and 507C (light grey) on the verticals, and the decks were 507A (Dark Grey). Testors MM makes all three.

A wood base isn't too hard. You will have to make it though, too big to use a plaque blank.

I bought about sixteen feet of 1x6 oak from Home Depot about ten years ago and chopped it up into 12, 16 and 24 inch lengths. I took it to a wood shop and had them run a 1/4 round all around each piece. When I need a base I grab one and clean finish it.

You can set her on blocks, or make pedestals, which I prefer. I've got a bag full of these cute little brass cylinder lamp parts. Before I glue the deck on, I drill a pair of holes through the bottom and a pair to match in a base. Then I put a 8-32 through each hole from the inside, spin a nut tight against the hull from the outside, and give it a shot of CA glue. My little cylinder fits over the outside of the nut. Put it on the base and install nuts from the bottom, countersunk.

Here's my Lusty on a temporary base:

And here a ship on the finished base.

I hope that's helpful. It's easier than it looks.

 

Good luck!

 

GM,

 

If i may, what are the steyro strips down the centreline?

Currentely Building: 1/35 Ford Quad FAT + QF25,

In queue: 1/35 Hobby Boss VK1602, 1/400 HMS Illustrious, 1/700 HMS Broadsword

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Monday, January 4, 2016 6:18 PM

Having just wrapped up on the Trumpeter A-4 time to pop the top on the Trumpeter Ticongeroga.

she's a big sucker!

It it doesn't have a SEAM problem than it's not by Trumpeter.

Hmmmm maybe a crashing through heavy seas dio can fix that.

That issue ought to keep me occupied until I order the PE set from Gold Metal unless someone knows if the Eduard set is a better one to get?

The first and last carrier I built was the Tamiya Enterprise back in the 80's and she was a beaut! This one looks like she will be fun to do too, paint scheme looks like it will be a bear.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 4, 2016 6:25 PM

JayW

 

GM,

 

If i may, what are the steyro strips down the centreline?

 

The hull has a seam down the middle that I don't trust, esp. with this kind of pedestal mounting. Cracking that seam would be just awful.

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Posted by JayW on Monday, January 4, 2016 6:29 PM
So it's just to reinforce it? I may have invest in some of that

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 4, 2016 6:58 PM

ArcAngel- you have GOT to be kidding...that is just terrible.

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, January 4, 2016 7:05 PM
GM, thanks for posting that, I've found myself wondering how that heck people do that. Great looking carriers so far everyone, ArcAng, I do not envy you with that gap.

-Josiah

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, January 7, 2016 4:37 PM

checkmateking02

Nice to see everyone's start-ups.  

I'm still doing some research to determine various aspects of CV-5, particularly her weapons fitting.

Scottrc:  I built the same Enterprise from Tamiya a while back for a GB.  Maybe you've seen them, but I found a couple of threads over at ModelWarship that were really helpful. I pretty much followed Mr. Bjorklund's lead.

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=4759

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/cv/cv-06/700-gb2/gb-index.html

The build-log and finished photos are here, if you'd find them helpful:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/153706.aspx?page=19

Starfighter Decals now also makes a set of 1/700 decals with deck markings and insignia for the airwing.  The set includes decals for all three of the Yorktown class carriers.  I thought they were very good.

http://www.starfighter-decals.com/700102-usn-yorktown-class-cv-with-aircraft-mar7001021942.html

I think they are also available from Sprue Brothers.  I hope I can get Yorktown to turn out as well.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the links.  A lot of great information . There are a lot of options, I just don't know how detailed I want to get.  I built a conversion of of the Oriskany a few years ago with a ton of PE and it burned me out on 1/700 scale.  I'm hoping to respark my interest in 1/700 with this kit.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, January 7, 2016 5:49 PM

I know what you mean about PE, scottrc.  I didn't use a whole lot on Enterprise, besides the rails, and they were enough trouble.  I used 1.1 quads from Paper Lab and some PE 20mm gun barrels to replace the wires that came with the kit.  Also PE radar and some AM 5" guns from Niko.  

Mostly it was kit-bashing with Tamiya's Hornet, according to Gordon Bjorklund's build log.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:25 PM

ygmodeler4
ArcAng, I do not envy you with that gap.

Well I was able to get the hull gaps fixed w/ putty and sanding and got the 3 piece main decks attached to the hull. But now the Bow fwd hanger bulkheads are off and needed a lot of cutting/sanding to get them to fit Bang HeadI'm hoping it doesn't throw the alignment off when attaching the other walls to the decks.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:49 PM

Nice fix, Archangel; but I hope that isn't typical of Trumpeter carriers.  I've got their Lexington waiting in the wings.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 8, 2016 4:21 AM

Thats was good work to fix that gap shooter. I'll echo check in that i hope this is not standard for Trump. I believe they are planning on releaseing a 350 Graf Zepplin which i would not mnd getting.

A nice start to the GB guys, seems we are all off to a good start in the year.

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, January 8, 2016 11:04 AM

Archangel Shooter

 

 
ygmodeler4
ArcAng, I do not envy you with that gap.

 

Well I was able to get the hull gaps fixed w/ putty and sanding and got the 3 piece main decks attached to the hull. But now the Bow fwd hanger bulkheads are off and needed a lot of cutting/sanding to get them to fit Bang HeadI'm hoping it doesn't throw the alignment off when attaching the other walls to the decks.

 

I feel for you.  The width on the lower rear portion on my Bismark was 1/16 shorter than the upper section and the same at the bow.  I used 1/16 balsa sheet to build up the sides to make everything form true.  

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Posted by Caveman on Friday, January 8, 2016 7:48 PM

Nice start guys.  I'm going to need another week or so to gather supplies before I can get building.  I still don't know how I'm going to camo these tiny aircraft.  Looking forward to the challenge though.

 

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Posted by scottrc on Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:22 AM

I just ordered some more goodies for my Enterprise.  I found that using the Tom's Modelworks PE set will save grief on the cranes and the tower behind the stack, and that I originally got paint for a 5N scheme, which was Santa Cruz, where I wanted Midway, which was 5S, so I ordered paint.  I was not planning to start this project until later this year, but its getting tempting to start now.  Checkmante, be prepared, I'm pretty sure I will have questions.

Scott

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:23 AM

Sounds good, Scott.  I also picked up Tom's PE Yorktown class set, as well as WEM's, and they both look good.  More PE Stress Disorder in the future!

I think you could get by with using either 5-S or 5-N for Midway.  Most sources seem to indicate 5-S [http://www.cv6.org/ship/camo-radar.htm], but there is some indication around the web that the Navy didn't like it and was already subsituting 5-N for all the camouflage measures that originally called for Sea Blue [http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=4759&start=400].

Essentially, it meant that Measure 11 became Measure 21.  

I already had colleced enough 5-S paint from Colourcoats for Enterprise before I stumbled on this particular discussion, so I opted to go with it.

JR 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by scottrc on Saturday, January 9, 2016 11:06 AM

checkmateking02

Sounds good, Scott.  I also picked up Tom's PE Yorktown class set, as well as WEM's, and they both look good.  More PE Stress Disorder in the future!

I think you could get by with using either 5-S or 5-N for Midway.  Most sources seem to indicate 5-S [http://www.cv6.org/ship/camo-radar.htm], but there is some indication around the web that the Navy didn't like it and was already subsituting 5-N for all the camouflage measures that originally called for Sea Blue [http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=4759&start=400].

Essentially, it meant that Measure 11 became Measure 21.  

I already had colleced enough 5-S paint from Colourcoats for Enterprise before I stumbled on this particular discussion, so I opted to go with it.

JR 

 

 

 

Whats funny is I did the opposite, I went off a disscussion on MWS about 5N at Midway and stocked up on 5N and 5-0 from White Ensign.Big Smile  I do like the lighter look of the 5S, and started using Vallero paints and really like them, so I ordered some to make 5S.  All else, I'll switch to doing the Yorktown.  I guess its 5O over 5S.  All these early war color codes are making my head spin.  PSD = I like it!

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Posted by raider-hall on Saturday, January 9, 2016 12:42 PM

Thanks for the comment. I have to do some work to port side aft section. I was told that section had to a slated towards the bulkhead. Post when I can.

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Posted by Liquid Magma on Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:02 AM

I have had a Revell USS Saratoga (CV-60) kit sitting on my shelf, party worked, for probably a decade... it's not a very good kit, but I'm not expecting a museum piece out of it. This will be a good excuse to finish it! 

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Posted by Rob S. on Sunday, January 10, 2016 7:32 PM

I am finally home from holidays and dusted off the Hornet. I (maybe foolishly) decided to start on the B-25 air wing. What a frustrating endeavour thus far. I have broken at least 6 of the fragile planes trying to get them off the sprues!! Every single one breaks at the left rear stab. Anyway, all but 2 will be done: 14 aircraft. The landing gear and props at 1/700 scale are so fragile that this part of the build is going to take many hours of tedious work. Not much to photograph as of yet, but, will try to get a pic tomorrow.

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Posted by Rob S. on Monday, January 11, 2016 6:11 PM

The bombers are assembled; all 14 of them! Anyway, it took far too long as far as I'm concerned, but, they are done. Now, painting will come next.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 11, 2016 6:15 PM

Hey they look great. What better way to spend time!

Did you put enough weight in the nose of each???Pirate

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, January 11, 2016 6:39 PM
GM, wouldn't you want to take the nose weight out to increase fuel capacity and range?? Rob, I thought there were 16 bombers on Hornet for doolittles raid? Can't wait to see them painted!

-Josiah

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, January 11, 2016 8:20 PM

Nice work, Rob. Some of the parts on Trumpeter's clear-molded planes really are fragile no matter how careful you try to be.

If you run short of the B-25's, I've got a whole set from Tamiya, left over from when I kitbashed Hornet and Enterprise. I don't have any use for them. If I ever get around to Hornet, I'll build her from Midway, not the Doolittle raid.

But they are solid gray plastic, not clear.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, January 11, 2016 8:25 PM

Man reading this really makes me want to join after/if I finish the Arizona. Perhaps I read over it but is there an end date?

Eric

 

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Posted by Rob S. on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:14 AM
Yes, Josiah, there are 16 in the kit, but, I broke the tail wings on 2 of them, so, 2 have 'already taken off' LOL

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Posted by Rob S. on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:17 AM

checkmateking02

Nice work, Rob. Some of the parts on Trumpeter's clear-molded planes really are fragile no matter how careful you try to be.

If you run short of the B-25's, I've got a whole set from Tamiya, left over from when I kitbashed Hornet and Enterprise. I don't have any use for them. If I ever get around to Hornet, I'll build her from Midway, not the Doolittle raid.

But they are solid gray plastic, not clear.

 

 

Thanks for the offer Checkmate, I'll go with 14 of the clear ones. I can 'scratch' off the areas to reveal the clear plastic. After painting all 14, I'll need a vacation!!

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:06 AM

Rob S.
Yes, Josiah, there are 16 in the kit, but, I broke the tail wings on 2 of them, so, 2 have 'already taken off' LOL
 

Ahh, makes sense, I look forward to seeing that! That's clever, being able to scrape off the paint to make canopy.

-Josiah

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Posted by Rob S. on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 4:03 PM

ONE!!

I did manage to easily rub off the OG paint from the clear plastic and I'm pleased with the result. I will now assembly line the rest.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 4:26 PM

Man what tiny decals! Looks like it's on raid day, right?

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 4:33 PM

Slowly plugging away here.

This was the seam I was facing as I was test fitting it.

And after gluing the bow section to the hull and using Tamiya putting and some sanding this is what it looks like now.

I laid down the deck and was using Insta-Cure supper thin glue, letting it run along the seam a few inches at a time. Looks like I will need to follow up with a gap filling super glue to fill in the seam along the deck/hull.

Have started building up the hanger deck walls and enountering fit issues here too.

Once I get the remaining walls inplaced, will have to fill in those gaps.

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