Floats and Boats: Amphibious Aircraft Group Build

BrandonD

RealG - Wow, that kit looks like a dog, but you're doing nice work with it, and I can't wait to see it come together. I never even knew there was a jet seaplane before this, which is one of the things I like about this forum.

BrandonD, I hope you get to free up some time to jump back in the pool!

Reality is sometimes stranger than fiction:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_Be-10

The Russians actually got their "Seamaster-ski" into service albeit in limited numbers and for a short period of time.  This was a surprise to me as well, as I had never heard of this plane until this year:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234997212-172-beriev-be-10-mallow-by-amodel-release-in-2016/?hl=beriev

Uh-oh, another limited run kit!  I'm sure it will be more buildable than the Seamaster though.

Hey Brandon, there with you buddy, I hoped to start the final finish on my goose, but what started out as planting a few flowers with my wife a few weeks ago soon morphed into a full fledge landsaping project that has taken a lot of time.

Scott

I really love the globby cockpit Mach 2 provides for the Seamaster!  Makes me think of a Salvador Dali painting.

https://flic.kr/p/HEwhkb][/url]Seamaster-14 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Some 0.040" sheet plastic to the rescue.  I used a contour gauge to lay out bulkheads (very badly I might add) to allow the cockpit to be more accurately positioned within the fuselage halves.  There is no molded locator for the floor on the right fuselage, so it's anyone's guess where it would end up.

https://flic.kr/p/HoRmQE][/url]Seamaster-16 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Some bits of styrene help keep the assembly from shifting and rotating.

https://flic.kr/p/HEwfs3][/url]Seamaster-17 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I am still thinking about how to represent the control panels (decals or built-up).  I plan on sourcing ESCAPAC resin seats to replace the kit "approximations".  The instrument shroud will probably need to be cut away and rebuilt too.

I think the beaching gear will end up mostly scratchbuilt, as it looks to be too much work to clean things up and straighten them out.  I glued the fore & aft connecting pieces and they do not look pretty.

https://flic.kr/p/HEwepb][/url]Seamaster-18 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/HGXa9p][/url]Seamaster-19 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Anyway, work will continue with the cockpit so that the fuselage halves can be closed up.  Things will go faster after that.

RG, you certainly have some challenges there, but it looks like you are making really good progress on it and it will certainly be one of the best Seamasters out there. Nice work.

BK

I was looking through my stash for the Wildcatfish kit last night, but didn't find it. Perplexing. I'll keep looking for now. If I don't find it, I'll swap it out for something else.

I'm really glad I called in here, I didn't know anything about the Seamaster until a few moments ago. Fascinating aircraft, great project. I'll follow it with interest.

Cheers

Tony

Hey RG, hope this suggestion isn't too late?! Was thinking maybe you could cut off the instrument panel and dress it up a little and use it with your better looking office? The detail thats there isn't too bad actually.

Found the Wildcatfish kit, so looking forward to making a start.

Cheers

Tony

RG!!! Don't know if you've seen this or not but here is a link to scale plans for the Seamaster! lol Sorry got a bit excited. Some excellent drawings for floaters on the site.

http://www.seawings.co.uk/seamasterplangal.htm

Tony I saw a pic or two of that rare bird. Look forward to seeing yours come together!

G, that kit pit looks fine to me .

Lok like you have your work cut out there but your getting to grips with it.

Guys,

Thanks for the support!  Simpilot34, thanks for the link!  Now I have a baseline to compare the model to.  The kit cockpit is a total write-off, as I am finding more things that are wrong.  BTW, this is how the kit instrument panel looks:

https://flic.kr/p/CH88WD][/url]Seamaster-04 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

The other photo I posted does not convey the ooey-gooey-ness of the kit!    The IP shroud is really thick, so the plan is to vac form a new one and fit a sheet plastic panel to it.  I have just found out that the seats are supposed to be closer together, and the rear bulkhead needs to be moved up to the canopy cut line.  I have True Details Escapac seats coming in, so I need to wait for them to make sure the consoles are put in the right place.  For the rear bulkhead, I'll just make another and paste it over the one I already made.  I also ground off the molded-in boxes on the fuselage sides, as there are supposed to be regular side consoles there.  I'm a measure once (or not at all) and cut twice kind of guy, so it's all good.

While waiting for the seat, I'll work on fixing the tail group.  There are globs in the control line recesses that really put me off when I got the kit, but the solution is simple.  I used to wonder why the guys in the model mags cut away control surfaces only to reglue them in the neutral position, but that is how I will sharpen up the definition and correct the hinge lines on the Seamaster.

https://flic.kr/p/HNCZWB][/url]Seamaster-20 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

For an easy clean line, I just made a cut all the way across the rudder.  The top and bottom bits will be added back to the fin later on.  i also discovered that the base of the fin has a rectangular fairing, so the taper at the trailing edge will need to be replaced.

https://flic.kr/p/HRYvUS][/url]Seamaster-22 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

The elevator hinges will also need to be corrected, as they are supposed to be perpendicular to the break line.  Which is fine, as they really needed to be sharpened up.  It's all good fun!

Taxtp, good luck on your Wildcatfish!

Dear Sir,s i would like to join this GB if you have room for one more ?

My entry would be a 1/48 Glencoe JF-2 Duck .

                                            The Original

                                 Mike Oscar Julet Oscar 

                                          Outcast !

               End Transmission-Semper Fi !

Great work there Steve, the model is really coming on nicely and i like the wake effect.

That's looking good so far Steve.  I like it a lot.

This is the box art for my Wildcatfish.

Cheers

Tony

G she's coming along fine mate! Like the surgery your doing, looks much better now.

MC your lil lady keeps getting better and better! Love the paint scheme with that base! Man, can't wait to see her bout to liftoff!

Tony that will be a rarely seen kit, real or model lol. Looking forward toseein that come together.

40.mm

i would like to join this GB

Welcome aboard, there is always room, whether there is time is another matter. Looking forward to seeing your work.

BK

Thank you sir - Time i have lots of that.. 

OMG Tony, your Wildcatfish is from A-Model!  Welcome to the hard-to-build model club! 

Steve, that Mariner is looking very nice!

Real G

OMG Tony, your Wildcatfish is from A-Model!  Welcome to the hard-to-build model club! 

 

I think you're right Real G. Have a look at the photo of me holding the float halves together. They're bent outwards like a banana !

Cheers

Tony

Tony,

Would your project go faster (i.e. easier) if you used an Airfix Wildcat and modified it to take the float struts and ventral fin?  It's pretty cheap and probably the best 1/72 Wildcat out there.  (But where would the fun be in THAT?    )

Meanwhile back at the Seamonster hangar, I had to raise the floor and move the rear bulkhead foward, as the kit locations were wrong.  Why didn't I check before?  Because I am a measure once, cut twice guy! 

https://flic.kr/p/HXiLPU][/url]Seamaster-28 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

BTW, the kit is really wavy and uneven, so I have been using stretched sprue to fill the realy bad stuff.  Since the material is identical to the kit, it blends in and will not flake off like putty.  I had a (dim) lightbulb moment last night and realised that if the sprue is heated then flattened out before re-heating and stretching, a thin ribbon of plastic results.  The shallow dimples in the kit now get plated over very quickly versus using round section sprue.  Yes, I could use sheet plastic strip, but the color difference would make it hard to judge subtle contour irregularities.

https://flic.kr/p/HXiR8J][/url]Seamaster-23 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Did I mention the kit's fit is bad?  The fin base molded to the fuselage does not match the fin cross section.  Not a biggie, as the base can be carved and sanded to match, but this is just another highlight of tackling this super-fun kit!    Okay, a confession:  The fin actually matched up with the base, but I savagely reprofiled it into something resembling a fin leading edge from a Mach 0.9 capable airframe.

https://flic.kr/p/H5x8ji][/url]Seamaster-27 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I can't wait to finish up the cockpit, as that means the fuselage can be zipped up and work can be shifted to the airframe!

The box, the sprue, the decals and instructions  

The fuselage half has some locater pins that need to be removed, they would show up when the cockpit floor is instaled 

The instrument panel and seats are gonna need some attention 

Got some paint on it

Ooooo, I love the Duck.

I like the look of that Duck, I'lleventually get to one in 1/72.

Real, I am considering using some parts from the Airfix kit, which is sitting conveniently in my stash. I just haven't worked it all out as yet. Thanks for a good idea.

Cheers

Tony

I love the Duck also, and yes that IP is rather sparse. But, I can feel you're gonna do some awesome work on this one. Dang, this GB is really fun.

BK

RealG I must say your office is coming along nicely! AND Sir, that is an excellent idea about flattening the stretched sprue when sheet isn't readily at hand. Well done!

40mikemike Looking forward to your Quacker! That is another plane that just looks right! Have the Airfix one in 1/72, Not the best kit I must say but the only one I could get in that scale. Will have to scrounge or make a prop out of spares, the kit one is just not happening.

Simplot,

Here's my Airfix one. The canopy doesn’t fit if you close it with the pilots and the decals are very thick and tend to silver. Everything else about it sees decent. My prop of course didn’t matter.

This was my first water build by the way.

Nice finish ! Like the movie murphy's war but American markings and not in a river  great job 

MC that Quacker looks great! I just don't have the gumption to try a water base...yet! Have a lil stable of floaters that would benefit from it though. Especially an Alaskan seaplane base or something as I have an Otter, Beaver, Norseman, and an An-2 Colt floater.

I realised last night its been nearly two weeks sinc ei updated. I don't where the time has gone and despite haveing the build nearly complete, i don't seem to have done much. So, here is a short update before the final pics.

The aircrfat itself didn't ned much work to get it finishe. I used some Flory Wash, especially long the water line, to get the look i wanted. Then it was just some exhaust staining and all the last pieces were added.

The beaching trolley is now ready for the aircraft to be added.

And the SS 100 just needs a few more pieces fitted.

And the base has realy come on. I wanted to change from the darker grey concrete i have been doing on aircrfat builds. I found a tutorial online that i really liked the look of so gave that a try.I am much happier with this finish.

And for the wtaers edge, i started with some flory washes and then added some Woodland fine turf for algea and then wodland realistic water. After that dried i use some water effects fr ropples. This is suppose to dry clear but a few bits have stayed white. But i still have a bit more to add to this.

So, just got to finish the water, add everything to the base and a couple more figures.