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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:58 PM

Justin, isn't that always the case with missing parts, exactly where you left them. Glad you found it.

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:49 PM

PJ - Nice camo work and use of the floor polish,  can't wait to this done.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:35 PM

Very appealing camo work on the Spitfire, pj!

And thanks for the kind words about the Hampden.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:01 PM

BD- You have done one heck of a fine job on that prop. Yes

Beav- Fantastic looking Walrus.

Check- Great looking Hampden and very interesting historical facts about the crews.

Doug- Marvelous looking double build!

I have a small update on my build. Got all the colors sprayed including the tail band. I just brushed a third light coat of Future and it's looking just right for decals. Now it has to cook for a couple of days then the decals and washes will go on. Double click on the image for a closeup.

  

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:46 PM

Thanks for all tne kind words guys, and brandon... the prop is looking good ! Oh and Jack.... you must read minds, I'm looking to do a Bi-plane, just not sure which to do. I'll have to present my ideas to Squadron Leader for approval when I narrow then down! 

Thanks again all!

Doug

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Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:59 PM

As usual....I get busy with life, miss a few days, and all h e double hockey sticks breaks loose!

Das beave, that walrus looks great!  You did a fantastic job with that little demon!

Rooster, I love the effect with painting the roundels!  Looking good!

....and that RAF 75th commemoration build...man!  That is awesome, Doug! 

 

A hand carved propeller?  Really, Brandon?!  The gauntlet has been thrown....I NEED to try that!

 

I hope I didn't miss anybody!

 

 

I haven't made any new progress on the Lanc, although I found the sprue that had the piece that I need to be able to finish!  Now I don't need to wait 12 weeks until Revell of Germany can get me the one little piece I need!  Lol....and it was in a place  that I KNOW I looked several times! Oh well!

 

I have been trying out the black basing technique on a little snap together a10 warthog that my son was supposed to build, but I ended up doing it....I figured it would make a great candidate because it is just going to hand from his ceiling when it's finished....

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:36 PM

damouav
 
Bish

I just want to take this chance to say a big thank you to everyone in this GB. When hosting one of these, i am content if 50% of the entires get completed. 3 and a half months in, we have 49 entries and Checks Hampden makes 20 completions already.

And add to the great builds all the info shared and general banter, and this is deffinetly the best GB i have had the fortune to host. I only come up with the subject, its you guys that make it work.

I am really looking forward to seeing what we have in store over the next 8+ months.

So thanks again guys, you have really made this a pleasure to run and be part of.

 

 

 

Bish,

This was the very first fourum of its type and GB I had the pleasure to perticipate in. I personaly have had the pleasure to be amongst such talent and hope to be able to continue to do so with another one or two builds. This GB has only been possible through you, and the talent that it has been involved.

Thank you Bish.

Damian

 

That one good thing about GB's, i think its a good way for newer members to get to know other members and get known themselves. Its great to see when people can slot right in as you have and before long it feels like they have been here for years.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:34 PM

checkmateking02

Thanks very much for your comments about the Hampden, Bish and Scott.  

I thought that Sgt. Hannah's story was particularly moving and poignant, especially given his early death and that of his wife so many years later.

 

Agreed, a very sad end for both him and his wife.

Thanks again for bringing that to our attention.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:33 PM

BrandonD
 
Bish

I just want to take this chance to say a big thank you to everyone in this GB. When hosting one of these, i am content if 50% of the entires get completed. 3 and a half months in, we have 49 entries and Checks Hampden makes 20 completions already.

And add to the great builds all the info shared and general banter, and this is deffinetly the best GB i have had the fortune to host. I only come up with the subject, its you guys that make it work.

I am really looking forward to seeing what we have in store over the next 8+ months.

So thanks again guys, you have really made this a pleasure to run and be part of.

 

 

 

Bish, this has been an awesome build, even if I am having a hard time keeping up with all the amazing work. Or because of the hard time keeping up with all the amazing work.

Reminds me of the 109 group build a couple years ago. Lots of great work, and lots of fun.

Thanks for hosting!

-BD-

 

Thanks BD, and don't worry, i am struggling to keep up as well. Every day i come on the site its in trepidation at how much will have been posted over night and excitment at what will have been posted.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:27 PM

Thanks very much for your comments about the Hampden, Bish and Scott.  

I thought that Sgt. Hannah's story was particularly moving and poignant, especially given his early death and that of his wife so many years later.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:09 AM

Bish

I just want to take this chance to say a big thank you to everyone in this GB. When hosting one of these, i am content if 50% of the entires get completed. 3 and a half months in, we have 49 entries and Checks Hampden makes 20 completions already.

And add to the great builds all the info shared and general banter, and this is deffinetly the best GB i have had the fortune to host. I only come up with the subject, its you guys that make it work.

I am really looking forward to seeing what we have in store over the next 8+ months.

So thanks again guys, you have really made this a pleasure to run and be part of.

 

Bish, this has been an awesome build, even if I am having a hard time keeping up with all the amazing work. Or because of the hard time keeping up with all the amazing work.

Reminds me of the 109 group build a couple years ago. Lots of great work, and lots of fun.

Thanks for hosting!

-BD-

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:49 AM

Das Beav and Checkmate, those are wonderful builds.

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:45 AM

Bish

I just want to take this chance to say a big thank you to everyone in this GB. When hosting one of these, i am content if 50% of the entires get completed. 3 and a half months in, we have 49 entries and Checks Hampden makes 20 completions already.

And add to the great builds all the info shared and general banter, and this is deffinetly the best GB i have had the fortune to host. I only come up with the subject, its you guys that make it work.

I am really looking forward to seeing what we have in store over the next 8+ months.

So thanks again guys, you have really made this a pleasure to run and be part of.

 

Bish,

This was the very first fourum of its type and GB I had the pleasure to perticipate in. I personaly have had the pleasure to be amongst such talent and hope to be able to continue to do so with another one or two builds. This GB has only been possible through you, and the talent that it has been involved.

Thank you Bish.

Damian

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:27 AM

I just want to take this chance to say a big thank you to everyone in this GB. When hosting one of these, i am content if 50% of the entires get completed. 3 and a half months in, we have 49 entries and Checks Hampden makes 20 completions already.

And add to the great builds all the info shared and general banter, and this is deffinetly the best GB i have had the fortune to host. I only come up with the subject, its you guys that make it work.

I am really looking forward to seeing what we have in store over the next 8+ months.

So thanks again guys, you have really made this a pleasure to run and be part of.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:00 AM

BrandonD

Ok, so the one thing other than rigging that has always made me stay away from WWI models is replicating the look of the laminated wood propeller by painting.

So I decided to tackle the prop on my F.2B while I await the decals to arrive from the Czech Republic.

Looking from the top, the lines in the propeller should be parrallel, and looking from the front, they do some crazy twisty-turny patterns due to the shape of the prop.

I saw a guy on Facebook who carved his own, so I decided to try that out.

I started with thin walnut veneer I picked up at a local woodworking shop. $11 got me enough sheets to make about 36 1/48 walnut props, so it's pretty cost-effective.

I bought some Truebond Original wood glue at the clerk's recommendation, and I went home and cut strips of veneer with my X-acto knife.

Wooden Prop

The above strips are actually not what I ended up with, as the lighter ones were a different wood that didn't work out. Since this is an allied prop, and they didn't see the big contrast in wood types that Central Powers props did, I used all walnut (top, middle and bottom of the above). I ended up using 6 strips in the final prop.

I glued them and clamped them in a vise, then drew a rough outline of the prop on the top with pencil.

Wooden Prop

That was easy enough, so I cut it down with a razor saw and X-acto knife to get it roughly right, but still oversized.

Wooden Prop

Next, I used flat, half-round and round files to shape it, then, when I had it where I wanted it, I used 600-grit sandpaper to smooth it out.

Wooden Prop

Wooden Prop

I ordered a set of Copper State Models photoetched prop bosses from Sprue Brothers just now, so I'll add that when they arrive. In the meantime, I'll spray this with Tamiya clear orange and clear yellow mixed to where I want it, drill the mounting hole and get back to the aircraft work so I'm ready to move forward when decals arrive.

-BD-

 

Now thats a first for me, that is just brilliant. You can't get any more realistic than that.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:57 AM

Check, just had a chance to read through your posts properly. Thats a really nice write up there and a great tribute. Thank you very much for that great piece of history. And a really nice job on the Hampden as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:40 AM

WOW, loads to catch up on from over night, will have a proper read through later. But in short, Das, if your realy sure, will be great to have that on board.

Check, great work on the Hampden, nice to se thoat old kit brought to life.

Will update the roster later. Thanks guys.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, July 10, 2017 10:47 PM

Damian, Gamera and Jack:  thanks very much for your generous comments.  Coming from builders of your skill levels, they are greatly appreciated.

OL-W's airmen certainly earned the decorations they received.  True heroes. 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Berkeley CA/St. Paul MN
Posted by EBergerud on Monday, July 10, 2017 9:44 PM

No cheap biplanes?

If you look around things like the Italieri 1/32 Camel & Nieuport are both nice kits for about $20. If you don't mind 1/48 scale, Eduard has "Weekend" Editions of all of their bipes for about the same $20. But WingNut Wings has done very nicely by modelers that insist on a bipe that fits super - the build is incredible, although some of their later kits are getting big part counts. Tamiya I think only has a Swordfish - but it's supposed to be a beaut.

I suppose that means you won't be checking the bargain bins at Sprue - I've seen East Euro bipes there 1/48 scale for about $8: bet they're worth every cent.

Eric

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, July 10, 2017 9:12 PM

Doug, sweet work with the Eurofighter. Yes
All you need to add now is a bi-plane to complete the trilogy of the RAF.
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DasBeav, the Walrus looks really good. Yes
I think both your build and paint skills combined with the particular subject, made for a very interesting presentation.
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Check, that is one fine example of the Hampden. Yes
Great work with the bombs, undercarriage fixes, and a general complete look to this important medium bomber from the first half of the war.
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Again guys, love seeing the creative process coming off the bench. Beer

regards,
Jack

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 10, 2017 8:18 PM

Dasbeav: Looks pretty friggin' awesome to me! Always cool to see something different and I think she turned out swell! Good luck with your second biplane- even as a kid I avoided Lindberg kits in favour of Monogram ones...

CMK02: Beautiful work my friend! The camo is perfect! And thanks for the history lession here too. Frankly one of my peeves is people tossing around the work 'hero' so much it means nothing. These two guys are honest to God truly 'heros' no if ands or buts about it.

BK: Wow, carving your own prop is super cool! There is no way I'd ever get that symmetrical!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by damouav on Monday, July 10, 2017 6:51 PM

Andy - Great work with the stencils and excellent job overall.

Doug - Sensational work mate, really like both your builds, well done.

Checkmate - Wow, excellent build, fantastic back story. Wouldn't expect anything less from your past builds.

Das - With all the problems you had with your build you nailed it, great work.

DamiAn

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, July 10, 2017 6:43 PM

Thanks, DB!  It was less troublesome than a Walrus!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by DasBeav on Monday, July 10, 2017 6:13 PM

Well done, Checkmate! Thanks for the backstory.

 Sooner Born...Buckeye Bred.

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, July 10, 2017 6:03 PM

A view of the Hampden's undersurface; the bomb bay was almost too narrow to accomodate the four bomb.  It was a squeeze.

A quick walk-around.

So, calling the build "done."

Thanks, Bish, for inventing and hosting the GB.  Been a while since I did a twin-engine flying thing, so I appreciate the opportunity to get motivated and finish it.

I look forward to seeing everyone else's progress; and given enough time, I may add another contribution.

Be seeing you.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, July 10, 2017 5:55 PM

The Airfix 1/72 Handley Page Hampden came from the "Victoria Cross Icons" set, released several years ago, and the plane carries the markings for the craft in which John Hannah earned the VC:  83 Squadron's OL-W; so I thought it appropriate to report on the background.

John Hannah VC 
(27 November 1921 – 7 June 1947) was a Scottish recipient of the Victoria Cross, the highest and most prestigious award for gallantry in the face of the enemy that can be awarded to British and Commonwealth forces.
 
Above:  Sergeant Hannah (left) and his pilot, Pilot Officer C.A.H. Connor
 
Early life
Born in Paisley and educated at Bankhead Primary School and Victoria Drive Secondary School, Glasgow, Hannah joined the Royal Air Force in 1939. After training as a wireless operator was promoted to sergeant in 1940. He was attached to No. 83 Squadron, flying Handley Page Hampden bombers as a wireless operator/gunner. He was 18 years old, making him the youngest recipient of the Victoria Cross for aerial operations (and the youngest for World War II), and a sergeant in No. 83 SquadronRoyal Air Force during the Second World War.
Action
On 15 September 1940 over AntwerpBelgium, after a successful attack on German barges, the Handley Page Hampden bomber (serial P1355) in which Sergeant Hannah was wireless operator/air gunner, was subjected to intense anti-aircraft fire, starting a fire which spread quickly. The rear gunner and navigator had to bail out and Sergeant Hannah could have acted likewise, but instead he remained to fight the fire, first with two extinguishers and then with his bare hands. He sustained terrible injuries, but succeeded in putting out the fire and the pilot was able to bring the almost wrecked aircraft back safely.
Victoria Cross citation
The announcement and accompanying citation for the decoration was published in supplement to the London Gazette on 1 October 1940, reading[1]
'The KING has been graciously pleased to confer the VICTORIA CROSS on the undermentioned officer in recognition of most conspicuous bravery :-
652918 Sergeant John Hannah :-
On the night of 15th September, 1940, Sergeant Hannah was the wireless operator/air gunner in an aircraft engaged in a successful attack on an enemy barge concentration at Antwerp. It was then subjected to intense anti-aircraft fire and received a direct hit from a projectile of an explosive and incendiary nature, which apparently burst inside the bomb compartment.
A fire started which quickly enveloped the wireless operators and rear gunners cockpits, and as both the port and starboard petrol tanks had been pierced, there was grave risk of the fire spreading. Sergeant Hannah forced his way through to obtain two extinguishers and discovered that the rear gunner had had to leave the aircraft. He could have acted likewise, through the bottom escape hatch or forward through the navigators hatch, but remained and fought the fire for ten minutes with the extinguishers, beating the flames with his log book when these were empty.
During this time thousands of rounds of ammunition exploded in all directions and he was almost blinded by the intense heat and fumes, but had the presence of mind to obtain relief by turning on his oxygen supply. Air admitted through the large holes caused by the projectile made the bomb compartment an inferno and all the aluminium sheet metal on the floor of this airmans cockpit was melted away, leaving only the cross bearers.

 

Working under these conditions, which caused burns to his face and eyes, Sergeant Hannah succeeded in extinguishing the fire. He then crawled forward, ascertained that the navigator had left the aircraft, and passed the latter's log and maps to the pilot. This airman displayed courage, coolness and devotion to duty of the highest order and by his action in remaining and successfully extinguishing the fire under conditions of the greatest danger and difficulty, enabled the pilot to bring the aircraft to its base.[2]
 
 
Above:  Sgt. Hannah and PO Connor inspected the fire damaged gunner's position on the Hampden
Below:  a closer look at the damage
 
 
He contracted tuberculosis only a year later in mid-late 1941, brought on no doubt by his weakened condition following the severe burns he sustained during his VC action. This necessitated his eventual discharge, with full disability pension, from the RAF in December 1942. However, unable thereafter to take up a full-time job, he initially took a job as a taxi driver (using a car his aunt had lent him) but due to increasing ill health he returned the car in 1943. He then found it increasingly difficult to support his wife and three small daughters, and his health ultimately gave out.
He died on 7 June 1947 at Markfield Sanatorium in Leicester, where he had been lying for four months. He is buried in the churchyard of St James the Great Church, Church Hill, Birstall, north Leicester. His wife, Janet Hannah, is also interred there with her husband. An inscription to her reads 'Loved and remembered always Janet Hannah Aged 83 years'.
It is ironic that Janet died also as a result of burns, having fallen in her garden and unable to move, she suffered horrendous sunburn and later died.
His headstone is inscribed:
Courageous Duty Done In Love, He Serves His Pilot Now Above.
The medal
His Victoria Cross is displayed at the Royal Air Force MuseumHendon, London.
References
2.     "No. 34958"The London Gazette. 1 October 1940. p. 5788.
·        British VCs of World War 2 (John Laffin, 1997)
·        Monuments to Courage (David Harvey, 1999)
·        The Register of the Victoria Cross (This England, 1997)
 
·        Scotland's Forgotten Valour (Graham Ross, 1995)
source:

https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=John%20Hannah%20(VC)

 

Piloting 83 Squadron's OL-W on 15 September, 1940 was:

FO Clare Arthur Hovendon Connor

Clare Arthur Connor was born and brought up in Toronto, Canada. In May 1938, after a short spell at the University of Toronto, he volunteered for service with the Royal Air Force and, after pilot training was posted briefly to No 106 Squadron before being transferred to no 83 Squadron operating Handley Page Hampden's at RAF Scampton, in August 1940.

It was on the night of 15th September 1940, during an attack on the invasion barges moored in Antwerp Docks, that Flying Officer Connor's aircraft was hit and set on fire over the target area. Two of the crewmembers baled out, but the wireless operator/air gunner, Sgt John Hannah stayed with his pilot and managed to extinguish the fire, enabling Connor to bring the badly damaged aircraft back to Scampton.

For their actions, Sgt Hannah received the Victoria Cross and F/O Connor the Distinguished Flying Cross, both men going to Buckingham Palace to receive their awards from the King on the 10th October.

Tragically, Connor was not to wear the ribbon of the DFC for long. Returning from a bombing sortie over Norway on the night of 3/4th November 1940, his Hampden crashed into the sea off the east coast and some several days later Connor's body was found in a dingy off Spurn Head. His body was brought back to Scampton and buried, not with other Scampton aircrew in the Scampton churchyard, but in the village churchyard at Brattleby, a lonely resting place for a brave Canadian pilot.

The aircraft involved was a Handley Page Hampden L4093 OL-J of 83 Squadron, then based at RAF Scampton.

  

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, July 10, 2017 5:02 PM

Quite a skill set you've got, Brandon.  That prop looks really fine!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, July 10, 2017 5:01 PM

I think it looks really good, DB.  Why not keep it in a box, so you can pull it out from time to time, and "remember when"?

 

 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 10, 2017 4:40 PM

DasBeav
P.S. I Will Never Build A Cheap Bi-Plane Model Again....Ever!

And what was that you said??

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by DasBeav on Monday, July 10, 2017 4:40 PM

Real wood props, BK! You are an artist! Might have to try that one day. Will be watching to see how they turn out....

 Sooner Born...Buckeye Bred.

 

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