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GAF
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  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:39 PM

Ben>  That is a great build.  Your craftsmanship is exemplar, sir.  Smile

Concerning mast lines, I might recommend something called Coats Transparent Thread.  It's polyester and can be found in the sewing section.  Here's the Amazon listing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hobby Lobby or Michaels had it in stock.

https://www.amazon.com/Coats-Thread-Zippers-S995-9950-Transparent/dp/B001ELD3AS/ref=sr_1_4/140-4864222-5880040?ie=UTF8&qid=1548826340&sr=8-4&keywords=coats+transparent+thread

It comes in transparent and dark.  I use the dark thread for antenna wire, and looks fine on 1/72nd scale aircraft.  I don't know about its longevity, but it is polyester so I think it will hold up well.  Just a suggestion.

Gary

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 8:50 PM

modelcrazy

Bruce. I'm not a fan of EZ line. I know several people have great results with it but it's too fickle to temp changes for me. My main go to is streched sprue but that also has it faults, several of them.

I purchased some stuff called Uschi. It's a little pricy and I haven't used it yet, but it is extreamly elastic and watching some YouTube vids on it, it looks very easy to apply. My only complaint with it so far, which shouldn't be a complaint, is that it is very small. That makes it more to scale but harder to see.

 

Thanks for the info, Steve. I'm going to get some of this Uschi and see how it works.

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 8:15 PM

It is really looking awesome Drums.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 7:51 PM

Far from done as there is still around 40 plastic and 75 P.E. pieces to add. Here is where I called it quits for today. I think it is finally starting to look like a war ship, do you?

In this photo. if you look close, you can see the P.E. rudder/tillers I added to the life boats. The open slot is for the captians (ship to shore) boat (still working on her). 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 7:39 PM
Posted by Griffin25 on Monday, January 28, 2019 8:55 PM

Dang Ben I'm really liking your build. It's coming together nicely with all that great PE detail. Also it's something you don't see modeled too often, very cool 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:07 AM

Ben,

I have to say you are doing truely a fantastic job. I understand you may be having some issues, but, it's not showing in this build. Your PE work is really impressive, as well as your build and weathering techniques. 

And, this ship is a really cool subject. I've been interested in these monitors, but, now after seeing your build, I may have to pick one up.

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Griffin and Bruce; Thanks for the comments.

The uniqueness of the vessel is what got my attention too. After looking at its war history, I was rather impressed with her (the real one). That is why I chose this kit for the GB.

Ben 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 10:46 AM

Nice job Ben. Like was said, your PE work is very impressive. I really like the way your weathering came out as well.

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 Thanks for the kind words Steve... This is the initial weathering with the dry brush. I am still planning on using some washes, oils, and pastels too.... I hope I don;t get carried away with it.

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 10:46 AM

Nice job Ben. Like was said, your PE work is very impressive. I really like the way your weathering came out as well.

Bruce. I'm not a fan of EZ line. I know several people have great results with it but it's too fickle to temp changes for me. My main go to is streched sprue but that also has it faults, several of them.
I purchased some stuff called Uschi. It's a little pricy and I haven't used it yet, but it is extreamly elastic and watching some YouTube vids on it, it looks very easy to apply. My only complaint with it so far, which shouldn't be a complaint, is that it is very small. That makes it more to scale but harder to see.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:10 AM

Gentleman,

 

I have a general question about mast lines. I've heard recently that EZ-line tends to break after a few years? I bought some, but haven't attempted to use it yet.

So, what are you using for mast lines? 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:07 AM

Ben,

I have to say you are doing truely a fantastic job. I understand you may be having some issues, but, it's not showing in this build. Your PE work is really impressive, as well as your build and weathering techniques. 

And, this ship is a really cool subject. I've been interested in these monitors, but, now after seeing your build, I may have to pick one up.

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

  • Member since
    May 2015
Posted by Griffin25 on Monday, January 28, 2019 8:55 PM

Dang Ben I'm really liking your build. It's coming together nicely with all that great PE detail. Also it's something you don't see modeled too often, very cool 

 

 

Griffin

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  • From: Ohio (USA)
Posted by DRUMS01 on Monday, January 28, 2019 7:52 PM

Moving forward, here is the front star structure above the lantern (11 pieces) which will hold the main observation platform. 

 

After looking closer at the rear mast assembly, I noticed that the front legs were not long enough to get around the handrails and steps to the main deck while still keeping the rear third leg of the rear master square with the rest of the ship. It also affected how the platforms on the rear mast as they were no longer parrellel to the main deck and were now tilted back with the fronts up in the air (unacceptible). My solution was to remove (un-glue) the rear mast assembly from the maindeck, tear it apart, and replace the front legs with brass. The triangular cross bracing is very small plastic. Here it is with the rework almost finished. In this picture you can also see the finished wood on the HCAS deck (the only wood deck on the ship).

If someone else is going to build this ship I would recommend they add the three masts to the decks first, then the cross bracing, and last the mast platforms. That should ensure they are square and parrellel as they should be. I would also leave the stairs off until the three legs of the mast are done.

 

I also promised an up to date photo of the main mast with the lantern house and observation platform, etc. As previously mentioned I am painting her in a specific period camouflage; here is the initial results (prior to detail painting and weathering). To get the round lantern house and the round guardrail above the observation platform I rolled the brass on specific sized brass tubing from my spares box.

Something funny.... After thinking that sprue "B" was empty, I threw it away only to find that the two bracing masts which support the star structure and observation platform were still on it (now long gone) Super Angry. Once again I used brass (no problem Smile). I used the after-market star structure to support the main observation platform. For whatever reason, the after-market star structures lower supports are larger than the kit pieces. This made the start structure lay directly on the lantern house (not good). My solution was to cut sheet plastic to use as spacers. I fit them under the star structure, between the braces (out of sight). I am overall happy with the results; except the mast ladders (to short) which I will replace with spares.

Some of you will notice that I did not add the antenna arrays to the front and back masts. I will do that as one of the last things because they are VERY fragile. Now its time to detail the other guns and the boats...

Till next time.

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

LAST COMPLETED:

1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:51 PM

Ship builds, especially 1/350 can be to daunting and take so long that you really have to have a vision and keep sight on it otherwise it turns into a shelf queen. 

In fact, because of that is why the GB is so long.

So anyone who signs up and starts within the 2 year time frame will have as long as they need to finish.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 6:00 PM

Thanks guys... patience: most always; steady hand: sometimes......

Now that I am starting to see the end results (at least in my head), the build is getting more enjoyable.

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by Griffin25 on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:39 AM

 Really great job, Ben. It looks like you have patience and a steady hand.  

 

 

Griffin

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:22 AM

That's some fine PE work Ben.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 7:58 PM

Thanks modelcrazy...

Not much to show but here is a little that was done.

The rear mast has been built. I cannot explain why Trumpter decided to make the cross mast on the upper portion separate when it would've been just as easy to combine both parts (?). Since there was no indent or ribs, there was no way to be sure of the exact location; it was all "eyeball" method for location and being square. After it was done, it appears close enough for me.

Along with the rear mast, I also replaced the handrail up by the HCAS.

Starting on the bridge and front mast (more photos upon near completion of the assembly)

Also starting on the clean-up of the wash and shading the maingun canvas.

Till next time.

Ben

 

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, January 20, 2019 12:11 AM

That is really looking like something now Drums. The Pom Poms are looking perfect.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:49 PM

Not alot to show, but there is considerable time involved with the PE and painting.

Here is a nearly completed quad pom-pom (not attached, still more pastel to detail). You can also see the life rafts painted, washed, dry brushed, and attached as well. Touch-up cleaning and painting still to do...

The colors look strange because of the flash needed to get the rudders and props. This was a very easy assembly. You can also see a slightly rusty rear anchor.

Here are the PE pieces attached to the main structures (including the stairs). You can also see some of the base washes I started. My thought was that I needed to get to some of the washing before the remaining widgets are attached or else it is too difficult to reach all of it. This photo also shows a good comparison between the after-market PE (the straight stuff) and the kit PE (the bent hand rail up by the HCAS turrets). If I can find a way, I am going to replace the kit hand rail up at the HCAS.

Thats it for now..... the masts are looming next Surprise

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:56 AM

 Looking good BenYes

Give the oils a try, they are fun to work with and add contrast that other mediums don't seem to provide. 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:34 PM

modelcrazy, I was not planning on it, but they do make great rust and weathering....

Since this is my first ship in many, many years, I may just try them too...

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:39 PM

My phone won't let me zoom too much but what I see look pretty good. Are you planning on oils as well?

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:27 PM

Phase 1 of painting and dry brushing of basic components. I repainted the decks with a mix of the gunship gray and black. It looks much closer to the color sources. 

Here you can also see the painted hull with red, the water line, and base dry brush. The final phase will have rust, selected dark washes, and pastel work done.

Rear view which also shows the HACS that I created (to replace the PE that I boogered up). 

At this point all of the pieces are just fitted and not glued. Much, much more to do on this one. From what I have seen, the radar / antenna masts will be a challenge and I may use brass or aluminum like some others have.

Till next time.

Ben

 

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

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1/35 CH-54A Tarhe Helicopter

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 12:50 PM

Scottrc, 

Thanks for that reminder as I use pastels often as well. I agree that is is more forgiving, but I may just try the dry brush for the initial contrast and then fine tune with pastels.

Thanks again....

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

LAST COMPLETED:

1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

NEXT PROJECT:

1/35 CH-54A Tarhe Helicopter

 

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  • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:02 AM

I used to drybrush a lot, but then found it was easy to overscale the weathering, especially with soot and chipped paint.  For the last few projects, I have drybrushed pastels that I have ground up and mixed myself.  These are easier to manage and go on very light, so I can add more layers if needed and if they go on too heavy, blow them off with the airbrush and start over.  The pastels will get sealed with the final topcoat. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 12:27 AM

It's hard to over do weathering on a ship in hard use active service. The sea, wind,  salt air and the constant battering of men in battle took/takes a toll on paint and decks quickly. I've never tried airbrushing on a ship but I'll bet it'll work just fine.

My ship weathering media of choice is oils, but I'd be interested in seeing how it turns out. I might have to add another technique to my ship weathering toolbox.

Steve

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 11:44 PM

I feel I have to post something even though it is not conclusive...

Here is the main deck and subassemblies of the super structures with some base coats and beginning of detail painting. I am possibly thinking of a dry brush effect over the structures (like what is shown on the main turret. If I do that it should provide the necessary contrast to the darker main deck. Let me know what you think?

I also painted the hull with the gray and hull red base coats (picture coming soon).

Since everyone that I have seen built this kit with the Normandy camouflage, I am deciding on something different. I have the colors when A) she was launched, B) the camo used at Normandy, and C) the light gray used in the Mediterranian and until retirement. 

Again, let me know what you think of the dry brushing idea? My other option would be to darken the decks with a combination of sea blue and gunship gray (?). Personally I kind of like the dry brushing as it brings the details to life, but I also worry that it may be too much (?)

 

And this is the scheme I am most likely going after (lighter on the turret with white upper structure and top of rear masts)

Comments are encouraged...

Ben

Ben

 

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:08 PM

Nice save, no one will ever know. 

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Thursday, January 10, 2019 3:19 PM

Here is what I had to work with after the fiasco mentioned in the previous thread:

 

And here is my scratch made replacement. I hope that once painted, they will be hardly noticable. (Pay no attention to the bent hand railing, I already fixed it). You can also see the wood deck that I added (still to be stained/washed).

More photos soon....

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

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1/35 CH-54A Tarhe Helicopter

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:42 AM

Ben, lovely work on those guns. But soiunds like your not having much fiun with the PE. But we know youcan pull it off.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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GAF
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  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Wednesday, January 9, 2019 12:22 AM

Ben> Having seen your skill you'll ace the PE with flying colors!  Or build it from scratch!  Great work!

Gary

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, January 8, 2019 9:16 PM

I feel you Ben. At least you didn't break the gun director radar screen and it's attaching gizmos, off the kit's housing, letting it fall to the floor, where it lands behind the wheel of your chair where you squash it like a pancake when you roll back to find it, like I did on and American ship. All part of the fun is model ship building. At least YOU finished the Pom Pom's Confused

Steve

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