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Ships of the American Flag GB 2019 -2021

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Posted by TheMongoose on Saturday, September 21, 2019 3:21 PM

FINISHED!  Can't tell you how ecstatic I am over this one because I think the image I was trying to capture is really representative of the cruise. Here is the USS Vandegrift as fitted out in 1995. I've weathered her for an active cruise doing missile system tests as shown here (Wikimedia Commons):

And my representation:

 

Once I had the action up front I just couldn't set the helo on the deck so I have big brother taking off, the doors closing for his berth and the other opening to bring out her other brother.

 

And here are some other ones to show some details and how she fitted out. 

I plugged the original hole for the rudder and offset it like the real thing. The prop is aluminum color on the drydock photos I have so recreated that look here. Yes, I found the prop on my workbench!

Testors clear canopy/window glue used across the board.

 

6 weeks start to finish. I used MCW lacquer paints for everything; light ghost grey on verticals and a lightened mix with 10% white for center panels and oil canning down the sides(washed out in the latest photos though but it is there), and dark ghost grey for the horizontals with a 10% black mix for tonal variation. Primer is Citadel Chaos Black for the hull and MCW grey for the PE and plastic. Only 1 piece of Pontos PE was lost during the build and I was able to fold up a new piece out of scrap. The Desron on each side of the superstructure wasn't provided so I hand painted them. I also tried the Flexy 5k CA for handrails and some of the parts that stick out, like the flag mast, to see how it works. It takes longer to dry, more like thick CA in time. Acts like a medium CA. Is easy to remove and redo. More ships to come as I am way better at this than planes. Definitely going to continue using PE sets where I can. Awesome Group Build. I'll be back for more after I build the bomber my daughter got me for my birthday!

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, September 20, 2019 8:26 PM

GMorrison
Modelcrazy- please revise the roster to add Revell 1/540 CVB-41 USS Midway full hull conversion.

Ooops, sorry about that GM, done Yes

Awesome job on that hull. I like the filling on the stern. Good idea about the scap styrine gap filler.

Steve

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, September 20, 2019 5:02 PM

Modelcrazy- please revise the roster to add Revell 1/540 CVB-41 USS Midway full hull conversion.

The heavy lifting for Frankenship is complete. The Forrestal lower hull worked well, esp. in the middle sections. I did build up a new stern, and had to splice styrene into some of the bigger gaps.

A trick I've learned for filling gaps with styrene. Let's say you have a gap that's more or less 0.020". Rather than try to fish a 0.020" strip into it, take a scrap of 0.020" sheet styrene and force it in edgewise. Do it an inch or so at a time. Flood with solvent cement. When dry, trim off the extra and sand it down to be flush.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by mach71 on Friday, September 20, 2019 12:09 PM

Thanks!

 

The bag or aluminum foil would have worked well.

 

The Micro mask just diapeared. I could not find it after the paint dried.

I went with the old school of a micro brush and flat black.

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, September 20, 2019 10:30 AM

Or poke a hole in a piece of aluminum foil.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 20, 2019 10:29 AM

When masking the whole model to spray something like that I tend to just stick the model in a plastic shopping bag and cut a small slit to stick the portion I want to paint out of it. 

Would save you a bunch of tape and doesn't have the issues of peeling up the paint.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, September 20, 2019 10:14 AM

White glue works well too.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, September 20, 2019 10:11 AM

Micro Mask sounds like an good and easy idea

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by mach71 on Friday, September 20, 2019 8:57 AM

Thanks!

 

I've masked the boat and put a few drops of Micro-mask on the periscopes and snorkel.

 

When the micro mask is dry I'll hit it with some camo grey. Hopefully the mask will come off easily. I've not had good luch with it in the past. 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 20, 2019 7:42 AM

Yeah Mach71 that does look sharp!!! Heart

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by mach71 on Thursday, September 19, 2019 6:41 AM

Thanks! 

Now it's all the little things that are left to do.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 7:26 PM

Very nice, Mach. Yes

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:08 PM

TheMongoose
OHHH THAT LOOKS SHARP!

Ditto

Steve

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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 4:05 PM

mach71

Thanks!

 

The red went on today. It needs a few touch-ups, but so far I'm happy with it.

 

 

 

OHHH THAT LOOKS SHARP!

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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Posted by mach71 on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:28 PM

Thanks!

 

The red went on today. It needs a few touch-ups, but so far I'm happy with it.

 

 

 

I have PE 4 tie downs from the Seaview kit I'll add. 

I've been fooling around with a few things to make the lower bow sensor. So far I'm 

not happy with anything I've come up with.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:24 AM

Yeah, that does look good Mach71 esp after all the krap you went though to get there! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Ted4321 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:59 PM

Oooh she sure looks sharp mach

Yes

 

 

T e d

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:37 PM

Steve

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:30 PM

Nice Cool 

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by mach71 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:23 PM

Finally got some bench time. 

The semi gloss black paint.

 

 

So far it looks good. I hope to get a coat of red on the bottom tomorrow.

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:39 AM

Gamera many thanks my friend it’s my ADD I try to keep it in checkIndifferent

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:22 AM

Nick: Beautiful job there on your PT boat!!! And congrads on being to first to cross the finish line. 

 

Great work all around guys, don't want to leave anyone out. 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:30 AM

Thank you Admiral sir. Lots of fun not as sophisticated as Mongoose,mach71 or bakster. I do like very much how PE looks on ships and yes Im in for the german ship GB .

this was very much out of my comfort zone....Crying

again thank you for your comments and for watching. (hope i didnt leave anyone out)

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:29 AM

Mongoose, as far as the heavyness it's really how you want to portray her. Yes the Navy work hard to keep rust down but sea water, waves and wind take a serious toll on steel, paint and wood. You just can't always get the deck apes over the side in Boatwain's chairs to needle gun and repaint while underway. However, once in port, over the side they go!

Steve

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Posted by mach71 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 6:54 AM

crown r n7

The Revell out of the box PT boat is done .This kit brought back many a memory thank you for all your comments and for watching.

painted with tamiya field gray and hull red. weathering with masters touch oil paint and chalks.

 

 

Congratulations!

1st to the dock and a comendation! Well done sir.

 

 

 

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Posted by mach71 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 6:49 AM

TheMongoose

Ok guys looking for some input here - i was thinking the rust stains from the bilge holes would mellow out after putting a flat clear on it, but it didn’t. Take a look at these and tell me if they need to be lighter, or if i can do something to make them more realistic? Used 3 colors when doing it. Put on a drop and then pulled it down. Tried to keep the brush damp but not dry or wet. 

 

Heres a few more pics. Hey what would a group build be without tons of pic right! I sprayed clear yellow, i think 3 coats, along the whole bottom width. Then went back and sprayed brown down the center. These re with the clear coat on it. Let me know what you think?

I looked through some other builds and tried to duplicate some methods. In the end it’s about how the effect comes across so very interested in your thoughts and ideas on weathering.

chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks a tad heavy to me, but I'm not a ship guy. 

 

Looking at the size of your ship and the level of detail, I'm just amazed! 

Great job so far.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:00 AM

I do the same, but use the acrylic versions of those paints over Future, heavily diluted in Turpenoid.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 16, 2019 11:29 PM

modelcrazy
I usually prefer to use oils for weathering ships. Burnt sienna for light or running rust and burnt umber for old rust, thinned withs some Turpenoid and allowed to just run. It can be wiped off and redone if needed. For the hull fading I use light vertical coats of grey for a hint of wear.

Steve, your example looks really good. I am taking notes.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 16, 2019 11:04 PM

crown r n7

For the first completed build, you are hereby presented with the Navy commendation ribbon.

I put your build on the wall, and make sure you grab a badge. It was fun to have you aboard sir and again, fantastic job.

Make sure you see us next year for the German ships GB starting Aug 2020.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 16, 2019 10:52 PM

Mongoose,

I usually prefer to use oils for weathering ships. Burnt sienna for light or running rust and burnt umber for old rust, thinned withs some Turpenoid and allowed to just run. It can be wiped off and redone if needed. For the hull fading I use light vertical coats of grey for a hint of wear.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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