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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, April 12, 2022 8:57 PM

Not a lot done, but I started. 

The body is a pretty thick plastic with a fantastic finish.  One of those I'd consider just glossing.  I'll have to put the optivisor on and look it over in detail but wow.

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, April 15, 2022 12:00 AM

Knowing nothing about the genre, I will ask some stupid questions, would the Tamiya Lotus Super 7 Series II qualify?  Airfix Lotus Turbine Car?  Matchbox Jaguar SS 100?

John

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, April 15, 2022 12:48 AM

The Lotus Turbine car was an Indy car.  Not sure about the ss 100 (mabye pre F1 Grand Prix?).  I don't think the Lotus Super 7 is in class either.

Check out Tamiya Honda RA272 or Coventry Climax kits.  Great models and the Tamiya kits are still priced pretty fairly.  And Italeri has some beautiful early Grand Prix cars in 1/12 but up there in $$$

Thanks,

John

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, April 15, 2022 6:53 PM

Broken Heart

John

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, April 15, 2022 8:05 PM

keavdog

Not a lot done, but I started. 

The body is a pretty thick plastic with a fantastic finish.  One of those I'd consider just glossing.  I'll have to put the optivisor on and look it over in detail but wow.

 

 

John-have you done any polishing or is this the 'out of the box' picture?

I'm looking forward to your results-I'd really like to not have to paint the Lotus 78-I hate painting gloss black.

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, April 15, 2022 8:09 PM

Hey Bob - this is out of the box.  Super nice finish.  I feel the same way about most of the black parts - they call out satin black and they are cast in a perfect satin black.  Not lazy, but not stupid either.

I did this Porsche from Tamiya ways back and the black was perfect out of the box.  I clear coated and polished

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, April 16, 2022 4:52 PM

Thanks John-that seals the deal-I need pull the kit out and make sure but I'm guessing it's standard Tamiya quality.  Only part that may need paint is the air intake scoop-multiple pieces requiring glue but I'm hopefully that a little sanding & polishing will suffice.  I have an old Monogram Corvette molded in black that will by my test mule shortly.

PS-and that's a great looking Porsche!

Bob

 

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Posted by wpwar11 on Tuesday, April 19, 2022 3:25 PM

   Got started over the weekend.  Had to use aggressive tools to remove the thick molded in seats belts.  Still need to clean up the scratches on the seat.  Bought a set of blue fabric belts.  It takes a little extra time but I don't trust my hand brushing skills to paint those molded in belts.  The tub has those tiny fasteners that get painted silver or aluminum.  I purchased a photo etch set that includes them.  Also trying a Goodyear Eagle tire stencil instead of those reverse decals.  Drilled holes in the data/radio transmitter ( I think that's what they are) for future wires.  

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 19, 2022 4:44 PM

So what color is the bottom of the ground effect or otherwise flat bottomed car? We never see it. Body color?

 

Bill

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, April 19, 2022 4:57 PM

Nice bunch of goodies there wpwar.

GM - who are you asking?  In my case the bottom is moulded in satin black - Typicall Tamiya.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, April 19, 2022 5:56 PM

GM,

I don't know about the newer cars, but the 1970 era cars were usually an alumimun color.  You don't get to see a lot of photos of the belly of F-1 cars, unless they turn turtle on the track.  I have a book with a photo of a Tyrrell P34 being recovered by a crane after a serious crash, and its underside was unpainted aluminum.  I remember seeing a number of builds of cars in the 1980-1990 turbo era, and some had what looked like an unpainted wood skid plate attached to the car's underside.  The newer cars might be made of composites, so their undersides might reflect that.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 19, 2022 10:52 PM

John- my car the 312T3. I've seen photos of Villeneuve's car after the crash, but it's a pile of tin.

G- yes that would make sense.

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, April 21, 2022 12:39 AM

Hmmm... it is difficult to find pics of the bellys of these things.  I found this one of a kit

Here: https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Ferrari-312T3-Clear-Cowl.html

My kit motor was to plasticy looking so I shot it with Tamiya semigloss black and did a bit of detailing - more to come

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, April 21, 2022 8:22 AM

GMorrison

It's been a while since I built a car. I think I want a jar of Zero Paint 323 scuderia red.

 

Where to buy here in the US, or where else?

 

Bill

 

Bill, if you (or anyone else) has any recent success ordering Zero paints from Hobbyworld US or any of the other sites John mentioned, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

I've been ready to order a few times in the past couple of years, colors I want always showing 'backordered' in Hobbyworld. i'd assumed it was a another so-called COVID delay, but I just checked again on a couple and it's the same.

Since these are sort of a specialty paint, I wonder if Hobbyworld places orders with Zero upon recieving orders themselves????

-Greg

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, April 21, 2022 8:31 AM

jeaton01

Knowing nothing about the genre, I will ask some stupid questions, would the Tamiya Lotus Super 7 Series II qualify?  Airfix Lotus Turbine Car?  Matchbox Jaguar SS 100?

 

Me too. I would have assumed yes, and was surprised by John's answer. But I now remember reading somewhere that Indy cars are in a class by themselves. I had always assumed they are/were formula cars as well.

I'll have to check with John about the one in my stash I am planning on building too!

Meanwhile, it's good to see some build activity going on here. Yes

-Greg

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, April 21, 2022 1:00 PM

Yes, they listed that color as backordered. I bought a bottle of Vallejo Air "italian red".

It will have to do.

John, that underside looks right to me.

There was a time when Indy cars had larger engines that F1. I don't know if that's the case any more.

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, April 21, 2022 1:14 PM

F1 power plants are hybrid gas/electric while Indy are gas only.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, April 21, 2022 11:33 PM

Well, I hope this works 'cause it's on the way...

https://web4.hobbylinc.com/gr/tam/tam20043.jpg

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

 

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, April 21, 2022 11:39 PM

Heck ya!  My favorite - Honda RA272.  You can do Ginther or Bucknum.  It's a really nice kit and your going to love it John.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Greg on Friday, April 22, 2022 8:34 AM

GMorrison
Yes, they listed that color as backordered. I bought a bottle of Vallejo Air "italian red". It will have to do.

Thanks, Bill.

I guess one of these days I'm going to order some backordered Zero from Hobbyworld and see what happens.

John (jeaton), I've had that Honda on my radar for years. Like keavdog John, it's one of my faves. I look forward to your build.

-Greg

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 7:03 PM

I can definately second or third that positive remarks regarding the 1/20 Honda. And it looks like Bill has a good handle on the Ferrari as well. 

For something totally different I'm going to show one of my latest additions. Another 1/18 scale die cast that I saved from a parts bin. The seller was going to destroy the rest of it and us it for parts. I convinced him to sell it to me to restore. The car started as a Replicarz 1971 Lotus 56B.

The Lotus 56B is an evolution of the Lotus 56 Indy 500 racing car designed by Maurice Philippe and campaigned by Team Lotus under the hands of Graham Hill, Joe Leonard, and Art Pollard in 1968. The 56 proved to be unsuccessful and unreliable leading to the governing body of American motorsport, and USAC to deem turbine cars and four wheel drive illegal. Undeterred by USAC's decision to ban the 56's technology, Chapman developed the car as a potential F1 machine after the failure of the Lotus 63, but while the car was promising, it was too heavy and too overcomplicated for F1. The car was designated as the 56B and Emerson Fittipaldi tried it in the 1971 Race of Champions and International Trophy non-Championship meetings. At Brands Hatch, during wet practice, the 56 was far and away the fastest car on the track, but the race was held in dry weather and the car was lost in midfield. At the Silverstone-based International Trophy, the car only lasted three laps of the first heat before suspension failure forced Fittipaldi's retirement. Dave Walker ran the car in the Dutch Grand Prix, and had progressed from 22nd to 10th in five laps of the very wet track, before sliding off the road and into retirement. Fittipaldi used the car again in that year's 1971 Italian Grand Prix and managed to bring the fragile design home 8th. By then Chapman decided to cut his losses and abandoned the 56, the four wheel drive concept and the gas turbine engine to concentrate on the Lotus 72.

The car when I received it had the rear spoiler removed from the body, both mirrors missing, and underneath of the front nose was not attached to the top of the nose, the engine cover and upper body did not fit to the main chassis, the paint was rough showing a lot of thick film (gunk), the left shoulder harness was off the car, several side pod and upper decals were torn or nicked, and it had numerous detail issues.

- polished the body with Nufinish polish and scratch remover

- created both mirrors from plastic stock, punch sets, and spares

- cleaned joints and reaffixed the lower nose tray to the front of the body

- corrected the alignment and flash on the engine cover to sit correctly

- painted the tears and missing sections of the white decals- painted (corrected) white and red trim areas on body

- repainted many small detail items

- corrected the gauges wires to allow room for legs and feet

- attached and laid down the whole drivers harness to the seat


Once again, I did not build it from a kit, but instead restored it back close to the way it should look when new. 





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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 7:46 PM

Well done!  And worth saving - quite a detailed model.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 9:31 PM

Too cool not to include in the GB!  I added it to the first page.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, April 28, 2022 4:29 PM

Little more work on the powerplant and rear suspension

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, April 28, 2022 4:44 PM

Nice refurbish work, Drums.

Good to see you moving along, John. Looking good so far.

-Greg

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, April 29, 2022 11:12 PM

Got the Honda RA272 kit today, here's the box art and parts. 

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

 

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, April 29, 2022 11:51 PM

Great news John.  I'm excited for you as this is a nice kit of a great subject.  Looking forward to your build and comments.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by wpwar11 on Sunday, May 1, 2022 8:10 AM

  28 years ago today Senna died at tamburello corner Imola, Italy.  Working on the Lotus.  Not much to see but here is the tub and some of the engine assembly.  I'll get the seat installed with aftermarket belts in the next update.  
Really looking forward to seeing all the great f1 models.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 6:32 PM

I had a slight hiccup on the Honda.  When I took the parts out of the bag I found the black sprue was deformed and the radius rods for the suspension were bent and in one case broken.  Thankfully, Gary at Tamiya USA had an incomplete spare B sprue even though the kit is not in current production and he is sending me the needed parts which were still on that sprue.  Lucky day and thank you, Tamiya for the great service.

http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/cars/ra272/IMGP23011200.jpg

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

 

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 6:39 PM

Tamiya have always had great service in my experience.  Apparently you got the off-road version with the high suspension travel ;)

Thanks,

John

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