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                        BACK IN THE SPOTIGHT--THE BOMBER GROUP BUILD (Medium and Heavy bombers from all eras)

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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Sunday, May 1, 2005 5:56 PM
                        Hey Tom,

                        It seems that Chris and I, at least, are keeping this one going. I don't think there's a problem if you want to join.

                        Chris,

                        I'm using Marine Corps Green (a very dark OD) for the plane. It's in the Testors MM line, and I could look up the federal standard number. Overall I think it's just a tad darker than I would have liked, but it's pretty close.

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        Bossman
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Bossman on Monday, May 2, 2005 12:02 PM
                        Tom,
                        The main reason for me wanting to build a B-24 was that it was like the plane my uncle co-piloted. He flew a B-24J out of Italy. The kit I picked is a "D" version from the Pacific Theater. I was going to try to convert it originally - but decided pretty quickly that that was a larger project than I wanted to take on. Maybe someday I'll buy the J version and try it. But I don't think It'll be any time soon. I still don't know where this one's going to go when I'm done with it !

                        Drew,
                        I checked out the invisible thread and the screwdriver method. Success !
                        Now I just have to try it with white glue and no pre-drilled holes.
                        I like the fineness of the thread.

                        Chris

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                        Vintage Aircraft
                        • Member since
                          May 2004
                        • From: A little place I call earth
                        Posted by Vintage Aircraft on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 12:28 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Lufbery

                        Hey Chris,

                        Isn't it great getting a day off to model?

                        Here are the long-promised photos. I think you can see the riggin on the one cabane strut in one of the photos:
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                        Still plugging along...



                        Great to see that your kits almost done, and it loks great.

                        The skies the limit,

                        V.A.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 2:22 PM
                        Lufbery:
                        ur MB-2 is looking really good so far, nice job on those engines
                        & the cockpit !
                        time 2 get back 2 work on my b-17, altho' l8ly my heart is more
                        attuned 2 an earlier era of aviation... Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]
                        thanx 2 u & Bossman 4 keeping this thread alive !

                        frostySmile [:)]




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                        Bossman
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Bossman on Thursday, May 5, 2005 12:04 PM
                        Frosty -

                        I've seen several Roden bomber kits from the "Earlier Era"

                        There's even some with losenge camo ! .... Next Project ?

                        Chris
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                        ghettochild
                        • Member since
                          November 2003
                        • From: houston,texas
                        Posted by ghettochild on Thursday, May 5, 2005 9:53 PM
                        well i see this thread is still going a little. so heres an update on my he111. its going to geather very slowly because the thing is so warped. so hopeful ill have more pics latter
                        -Josh
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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Friday, May 6, 2005 9:05 AM
                        Thanks for the comments, folks. I've got two figures that are going in the cockpit. They're from a WWI pilot set by Orion (formerly Dark Dream Studio)

                        You can see them here:

                        http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.asp?manu=DDS&code=72003

                        I got them from the Michigan Toy Company:

                        http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/newplastic_folder/orion_1-72/dds72003.html

                        I'll be using two of the sitting figures: the guy giving the thumbs up, and the guy with his arm cocked as though resting on something. When they're both in the cockpit, the second guy's arm rests on the the first guy's shoulder. They're both looking left, so I'm going to put one of the officers in their line of sight as though he's givig them final instructions.

                        There are some ground crew in that set too, so I'm expecting to have a relatively busy scene when I'm all done.

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:49 AM
                        Hi all,

                        It's been a slow couple of weeks for modeling as I finish up a semester at grad school, but I got back in the saddle last night.

                        I primed the struts, the radiators, and a couple of other small pieces on one side. I tape them to cardboard and hit them with Testors spray enamel. Tonight I'll flip them over and get the other side.

                        I also finished applying Future to the wings, fuselage, and tail. The next step is to decal everything and then drill the rigging holes.

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:09 PM
                        Hi all, I'm still going. Smile [:)]

                        I'm still priming small parts, but I'm almost done. I also repainted the top wing. I kept looking at it and I didn't like how the primer color was showing through the dark green at the tops of the ribs. I didn't have my airbrush set up quite right when I did the top of the top wing, but figured it out later for the fuselage, bottom wing, and tail.

                        I'd already put Future on everything, and surprisingly, this made handbrushing a breeze! Maybe I'll think about priming with Future at some later date.

                        Tonight, the top wing gets a coat of Future and the final small parts get primed. If I'm really motivated, I'll put decals on the tail.

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        scottrc
                        • Member since
                          December 2003
                        • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
                        Posted by scottrc on Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:22 AM
                        It's looking really good. I cannot wait to see it finished.

                        Scott

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                        Vintage Aircraft
                        • Member since
                          May 2004
                        • From: A little place I call earth
                        Posted by Vintage Aircraft on Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:04 PM
                        Well I figured since the build is still going that it should be reopened to a new group of people and there builds so here it is BACK IN THE SPOTLIGHT---THE BOMBER GROUP BUILD



                        This group build is dedicated to the bombers of the world, Medium or Heavy in any scale from any era, from any country.

                        RULES:

                        The start date of this prodject is June 1st, and the compleation date will be January 1st.

                        Feel free to post any pictures of your models in any stage of construction at any time.
                        Also regular updates on the progress of your model would be appreciated.
                        Anyone can join in, and the group list will be posted here with the name of your project.



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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:01 AM
                        Hi all,

                        Back again. I'm putting the decals on the plane in preparation for final assembly and rigging. The decals that came with this Glencoe kit are great! They need a couple of coats of Micro-Sol to really snuggle down, but they do so very nicely.

                        The rudder stripes look good. The decals are large enough to wrap around the back and tops of the rudders. More Micro-Sol is needed to get them to conform.

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        Bossman
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Bossman on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:01 PM
                        Drew,
                        Looking forward to seeing more. But I know that taking pics can be pretty time consuming. Better to model !

                        I tried the invisible thread you mentioned for the rigging on a Bristol Bulldog that I finished last week. I like the way it came out. It's a very fine gage - which looks really nice on a 1/72 scale plane. I hope to get some pics this week.

                        As for Moby the B-24D, I've done some weathering with Tamiya smoke behind the engines - but it needs more. I'll be accenting some panel lines with a fine pencil. And I started applying some pastel dust in places. It's a heck of a lot of surface to weather - but I don't really want to leave it clean.

                        Chris
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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:13 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Bossman

                        Drew,
                        Looking forward to seeing more. But I know that taking pics can be pretty time consuming. Better to model !


                        Amen! Still, I'll try to take some more pictures soon. Blush [:I]

                        QUOTE:
                        I tried the invisible thread you mentioned for the rigging on a Bristol Bulldog that I finished last week. I like the way it came out. It's a very fine gage - which looks really nice on a 1/72 scale plane. I hope to get some pics this week.


                        Great! I think you said it tightens up nicely when you run the hot tip of a screwdriver near it, right? I noticed that I'll need to tighten up the rigging on the cabane struts once they're installed.

                        My plan for rigging the wings is to not drill the whole way through the top wing. Instead, I'll drill part way through it and the whole way through the bottom wing. That way I'll only have to fill half the number of holes and they'll be on the part of the model not normally seen.

                        QUOTE:
                        As for Moby the B-24D, I've done some weathering with Tamiya smoke behind the engines - but it needs more. I'll be accenting some panel lines with a fine pencil. And I started applying some pastel dust in places. It's a heck of a lot of surface to weather - but I don't really want to leave it clean.

                        Chris


                        Chris, it sounds great. Is your B-24 a tail-sitter? I think I posted a picture of the B-24 Diamond Lil with a big red bar that was used to prop her up when at rest. Smile [:)]

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        Bossman
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Bossman on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 11:31 AM
                        Drew -

                        Yeah - I tried the invisible thread stretched between a section of sprue first (like a bow) and it worked great. The Bulldog was the first model that I tried it on though. I'm gonna see if I can borrow a camera and take a few shots tonight. I have three 1/72 rigged biplanes now - so I thought I'd do a group shot.

                        The B-24 is VERY tail heavy.

                        Chris
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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 12:35 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Bossman

                        Drew -

                        Yeah - I tried the invisible thread stretched between a section of sprue first (like a bow) and it worked great. The Bulldog was the first model that I tried it on though. I'm gonna see if I can borrow a camera and take a few shots tonight. I have three 1/72 rigged biplanes now - so I thought I'd do a group shot.


                        Excellent! I'm glad it worked out for you, and I look forward to the pictures.

                        QUOTE:
                        The B-24 is VERY tail heavy.

                        Chris


                        Well, here's the 1:1 scale solution I found to that problem at last year's WWII Weeknd air show in Reading, PA:
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                        Big Smile [:D]

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        knight667
                        • Member since
                          January 2004
                        • From: Philomath, OR, USA
                        Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 5:54 PM
                        Is the build still open?
                        John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest
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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 7:40 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by knight667

                        Is the build still open?

                        I'm pretty sure. Check the first message in the thread. Smile [:)]

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        knight667
                        • Member since
                          January 2004
                        • From: Philomath, OR, USA
                        Posted by knight667 on Thursday, June 2, 2005 10:05 AM
                        Cool...in that case, can you put me down for an He 111. Big Smile [:D]
                        John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest
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                        Bossman
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Bossman on Friday, June 3, 2005 10:42 PM

                        It's been a while - but here are some update pics of the Jolly Rogers' B24-D Liberator "Moby ***".

                        I used a ton of light to photograph this one so the picture quality is a little better than the pics I've posted of this one in the past. After taking so many bad photos - Now I know enough to really flood the area with light and have it in light surroundings. It seems to have helped.

                        There are still some fiddly bits that need to be installed (side windows on cockpit), and I still haven't taken care of the one pesky national insignia decal on the port wing.

                        I hope to do more weathering - especially exhaust staining behind the engines and some better panel line definition - probably with a pencil. (I liked the results I got with pencil on a recent 1/72 kit)




                        Hope you like it.

                        Chris

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                        jay12472
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Pennsylvania
                        Posted by jay12472 on Saturday, June 4, 2005 9:14 AM
                        Chris looks great what kit is it Jason
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                        Bossman
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Bossman on Saturday, June 4, 2005 1:08 PM
                        Jason,
                        Thanks ! It's an old Monogram 1/48 kit. I think it is around mid '80's vintage. (Instructions are copyrighted 1983) It's been re-released recently.
                        Chris
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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Saturday, June 4, 2005 11:01 PM
                        Chris,

                        That's excellent work! Thanks for posting the photos.

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        ghettochild
                        • Member since
                          November 2003
                        • From: houston,texas
                        Posted by ghettochild on Wednesday, June 8, 2005 9:57 PM
                        hello all. nice work bossman! here is the latest on my build


                        -Josh
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                        Bossman
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Bossman on Friday, June 10, 2005 10:12 PM
                        Josh,
                        Good to see you back here.
                        SWEET work on the cockpit. I really like the buckles and control levers. Nice job.

                        Chris
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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:26 PM
                        Hi all,

                        I've finally got all the decals on the plane. I'm still working at my usual, glacial pace, but the bomber is starting to look really good!

                        The next steps are to finish the engines, paint all the little pieces, and start the final assembly.

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:38 PM
                        Is it too late for me to get in on this GB?Sad [:(] If not I'd like to be put down for the Tamiya 1/48 Betty.
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                        Bossman
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Bossman on Friday, June 17, 2005 10:57 PM
                        A6E,
                        Jump in - the styrene's fine !
                        Chris
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                        Lufbery
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:46 AM
                        Hi all,

                        Last night I put a final coat of Future over the decals, added my first coat to the engine nacelles, painted some small parts, and started drilling holes for rigging. It's amazing how quickly a couple of hours goes by. Smile [:)]

                        Regards,

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        knight667
                        • Member since
                          January 2004
                        • From: Philomath, OR, USA
                        Posted by knight667 on Friday, June 24, 2005 1:16 PM
                        Sorry to leave you guys/gals, but I'm gonna have to back out of the build. I'm currently involved in 4 other builds and I've got some other obligations at home as well. So not enough time right now. Maybe next time. Thanks!! Disapprove [V]
                        John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest
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