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BACK IN THE SPOTIGHT--THE BOMBER GROUP BUILD (Medium and Heavy bombers from all eras)

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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:33 AM
Well - I'm with the rest of yous guys and gals - looks like I might not make the deadline either... but I might just get all outa control and sneak my finished pics in here anyway Evil [}:)]

Hopefully the hangar is big enuf to fit a few more B-24s, He-111s, MB-2s, B-17s, and whatever else is unfinished.

Chris
  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: houston,texas
Posted by ghettochild on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:21 PM
boy its been awhile but i looks as though im not going to finish. ive had a lot of car trouble this past couple months, plus i messed up the windows and im waiting for replacements. ill try to post pics later.
-Josh
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  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Monday, December 27, 2004 12:44 PM
Hi all,

Well, the bad news is that I won't be able to finish my Glencoe MB-2 kit by the deadline for this build. Sad [:(] There's just way too much clean-up work to do before I can even paint, assemble, decal, and rig the plane.

The good news is that things are going pretty well with the build.I got the engines assembled, and one of them is cleaned up and puttied. I still need to work on the radiators and the rear of each engine nacelle.

I also got the fuselage attached to the lower wing. I had to add thin styrene strips to the wing root area on each side to improve the fit, and a little putty will be needed there too. As soon as the engines are done, I'm going to assemble and rig the cabane strut assemblies. After that, I'm going to paint, decal, and rig the lower wing, fuselage, and tail.

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:47 AM
Nice job Frosty.
It should build into a really interseting dio with that red-tail mustang.

Thanks for the progress pics - I love watching everyones stuff as it's being built.

Chris
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:39 PM
well, it looks like a lot of folks r missing in action on this GB...
here's where i'm at w/ my build at this point:



the kit is minicraft 1/144 scale b17g.
so far, i have opened up the port waist gun position
& rebuilt the pilot's canopy w/ clear acetate & strip styrene
& added some clear acetate circles 2 simulate spinning props..
painted the tailfin/rudder...
i'm pretty sure i'll make the deadline on this build ! Big Smile [:D]

frostySmile [:)]
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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Friday, December 10, 2004 10:54 PM
OK - so here's a shot of "The belly of the beast" so to speak. Taken at the same time the last photo I posted - so it doesn't show the decal work.



Hope you like it.

Chris
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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Wednesday, December 8, 2004 9:53 PM
Almost finished applying Moby's decals. It was as bad as I suspected it would be - but not as bad as it could have been. (I have had decals simply dissolve in the past) These decals are very thick, very old, very stiff, and they do not respond to Micro-Sol at all - it simply had no effect (!?!)

So what did I do ? I was worried about the backing adhesive on these old decals, so after the Future coat cured and just before the decals were applied, I put down a thin coat of watered down "clear parts" glue in the area the decals were to be applied. It seems to have worked well. The national insignia decals that went near the waist gunner positions needed to go through more contortions than a yoga practicing pretzel twister in order to conform to the deep surface irregularities. I knew they wouldn't respond that well. I cut the decals in a few key places, applied them, left them to dry for a couple days - same thing with the nose art decals and those on the wings. Last night I started just picking away at the loose pieces with an exacto, then I painted the gaps that were left where the decal parts had been picked away.

Surprising ! The Black, Red and Blue areas look good ! It's tough to notice unless you're really looking for the edge of the decal. The white areas are another story all together. The look lousy right now. I'm regretting not investing in some after market decals for the National insignias. But I'm not done yet.

More to come - Jan 1 is on the way ! I don't mind spending alotta build time now - but there are a few other things to do before Christmas, somethins gonna suffer.

Chris
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    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:35 PM
Chris,

I may in fact be done sanding now! YAY!!!!! The major parts of the plane are assembled, sanded and primed. Because this is a biplane, I'll have to paint and decal the major sub-assemblies before putting them together. I'm going to start on the engines and cabane struts next. Wish me luck.

Regarding your photo, I think you're your own worst critic. From what I can see, she looks like a fantastic build! I really like the variation in tone with the different greens, and I like the triangles too.

Post more photos soon! I'll try to do the same.

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Monday, November 29, 2004 9:21 PM
Ok - here's "the unveiling" Monogram 1/48 B-24D "Moby Dick"

No - It's not done - but it's the first pic that I've ever posted ... ever ... anywhere ...

Tonight you are a witness to a rather bland piece of history - and it's not even a very good pic - probably a good thing. But I'm psyched anyway. It's a start. Hopefully the pictures will get clearer, I'll figure out how to get more space on my website hosting deal, and most of all - the quality of the builds might even improve to the point where a crisp picture will look good.



This build has been a blast. Albeit a long blast. You may notice that all that's left is some finish painting, decals, and the fiddly bits that I'll tack on after some weathering and oil staining. I think I'll re-do the dark green camo edges on the wings. I'm satisfied with the color I guess - I just got a little overzealous with the number of "triangles" - The painting guide in the directions is almost useless on this point and I couldn't find a decent reference on how many of the darn things there are and where they're placed.

Pics are courtesy of the digicam that I was able to borrow from work (Yes - legally ! I even signed it out !)

Thanks for allowing me to share this with you (Man it feels good to say that)

I'm thick skinned and realize that I could use a constructive eye to help me out - so if you've got any ideas that could make this a better build - let me know.

Drew - you done sanding yet ? Smile [:)] Seems like that was a common theme for both your build and mine.

Chris


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    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Monday, November 29, 2004 9:47 AM
Another quick update:

I've finally got the seams on the fuselage looking as good as I can get them, and the wings, fuselage, and tail unit are ready for the olive drab paint coat.

Next up are the complex strut around the engines, and the engines themselves.

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:24 PM
Quick update on my Martin MB-2: I've got the fuselage primed and the rudders on the horizontal stabilizer and the underside is primed.

I still have some sanding to do on the fuselage, however, Sad [:(] before it's ready for paint and decals.

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:00 PM
B-24D "Moby Dick" Progress Update:

Wings, Tail section, and Fuselage assembled. Looks like a HULK of an airplane - so I guess I'm on the right track. (I wonder how these things got off the ground).

Neutral Gray and Olive Drab Scheme doesn't look as boring as I thought it would. I need to clean up the lines where the OD & Neutral Gray meet. Trying to get a bit of a "fuzzy edge" appearance with a brush. We'll see.

Chris
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    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Monday, November 1, 2004 3:08 PM
More work on my MB-2:

So I got my Aeroclub scarff ring and guns...

... and they're beautiful!

In 1/72 scale, they look like perfect little gems.

I bought two, single-gun mounts with guns. One goes in front of the cockpit on the MB-2 bomber I'm building, and one goes behind it. The guns and Scarff rings that come with the kit are grossly over-scale, and the new ones look much better.

One of the consequences of the kit's parts being larger than the replacement parts is that the opening for the gunners' cockpits are too large by just a smidgen for the new rings to fit well.

So, in a flash of brilliance, I bought some plastic strip stock .10" wide. I forget the thickness, but when wrapped in a spiral three times, it is just thick enough to fill the cockpit openings enough to provide a good seat for the Scarff rings. A very little bit of putty and everything looks great!

I'm hoping to get some photos up, but right now due to time constraings, it's a choice between taking photos and playing with my web site, or working on the model. I think I'd rather work on the model. Smile [:)]

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 12:57 PM
Jay:
that's a fine looking betty, alrite !

& the Lady Be Good, wow.... Vintage Aircraft, a topnotch job !!!

i pulled out my b-17 & did some work filling the seams on the
wings at the roots & leading edges...

frostySmile [:)]
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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:58 PM
YOW !

Will ya look at all the glass framing on Betty !

Man - I thought my B-24D was alot. That's a ton - and on a 1/72 ! The rear turret looks like it must have been especially tough.
I am humbled.

Great job man !

Chris
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Pennsylvania
Posted by jay12472 on Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:45 AM
here is my 72 scale betty it also has the Okha with it but I forget to take pics.


Jason
  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Friday, October 29, 2004 7:18 AM
Thanks Vintage-already planning for the 60th Pacific GB & the Battle of the Bulge GB.

Looking forward to seeing more of your work.

Bob

 

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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:06 PM
Reached 2 major milestones on the B-24D this evening:

1) All my greenhouse frames and multitudinous glass pieces are painted (Two colors: Zn Chromate green underneath good 'ol Olive Drab) This was an incredibly tedious process but it feels good to have it done - there !... I said it - IT'S DONE ! - I WILL NOT go back and pick at it with a toothpick or try to repaint miniscule nicks.

2) There are no more parts on sprues !

Still lots of work to go, but I'm chipping away.

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    May 2004
  • From: A little place I call earth
Posted by Vintage Aircraft on Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:33 PM
Thats ok Bobbaily I know exactly how you feel, afteri finished my Lady be good about a month and a half ago I stopped building models becasue that build took alot out of me, and I am starting my builds up again november first, so I havent built anything for about two months now. But it was good having you in the monogram build and I must say I am impressed with it. But join me for my 2005 line up of builds, it should be awsome.
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    November 2003
  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:50 AM
re:Vintage Aircraft 'Lady be Good'-super job-very impressive.

It is with regrets that I'm dropping from the GB-haven't purchased the B-26 yet and kinda burnt-after finishing the Monogram GB and soon to finish Auto Racing GB-no desire to start a project for at least a month. Looking forward to more GB's in the future-I especially enjoy the GB's with a historic background.

Vintage-thanks again for all your effort in this and the Monogram GB's

Bob

 

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    September 2015
  • From: The Redwood Empire
Posted by Aaronw on Monday, October 25, 2004 11:26 AM
Ok, I finally got started on something for this build but instead of the B-17 Air Tanker (I've already got 3 air tankers started and its been more work than I expected so I need a break building something else)

I'm going to be building an Italian Caproni CA-311 twin engine medium bomber, I just got started the other night but I'll put up a pic once I have something worth showing.
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    May 2004
  • From: A little place I call earth
Posted by Vintage Aircraft on Friday, October 22, 2004 6:56 PM
Hey Rebel its ok man , I know exactly how you feel, but good luck to you with the armor buisness, I guess you have gone to the darkl side they say. It was good having you
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    October 2003
  • From: Clovis, Calif
Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, October 22, 2004 5:13 PM
well........................ I am a really sorry to say this but, I am going to bow out of this GB. Sad [:(] I just got signed up with to many of em... and when I signed up for this one I was building Armor and Aircraft. Now I am building almost all armor. once again I am sorry.
Good luck to you all!
John
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    May 2004
  • From: A little place I call earth
Posted by Vintage Aircraft on Friday, October 22, 2004 4:55 PM
Sorry about how long I have been gone, and the fact that I have not been posting here at all, and the fact I have not done anything in the way of updating this build, I appologize. I have been extreamly buisy with everything, models especially. There are several things that I need to get caught up on here, and seeing the lattest builds from all of you.
By the way the are so awesome, I love the B-17s, and the Black cat is amazing. Ill be trying to update this build here over the next few days.

Now on to the 1/48 B-24D The Lady Be Good.

Here are two photos of the model one an overall view and one a close up, I am hoping to have some more posted soon. These were taken at the MMSI figure show and I would like to thank Lawrence Hansen David Raatz, for taking these photos.

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/objects/images/mmsi2004-125.jpg

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/objects/images/mmsi2004-126.jpg


This model has about 6 to 7 months of work out into it equaling to around 275 total hours of construction time.

Interior:
90% of the rear portion of the bomber is scratch built , I had to extend the floor of the waist gunning position to the point of the break, I rebuild all of the structual members in the interior because I did not like how Monogram represented them. The oxygen bottels are from the Monogram B-29 kit, and the ammo belts are scratch built.

The Cockpit was built as is since not much detail is visable with the hazed over glass. It was then weathered with the base color of the aircraft and instaled.

Tail Exterior:
The tail turrent was converted back to the correct D version, that was the hardest part of construction, it took me two months to find enough pictures to get it right. The rear virtical stabalizer with all of its fabric gone was also scratch built using styreen strip. and the elivators were repositioned, and all of the fabric surfices were given the rotting fabric treatment.

Forward fusalage exterior:
The number four engine was removed and the insides built using a very good photo of the libs engine to work from.

The correct D version windows were put on the canopy, abd the nose bubble was damaged using a dremel thinning it out from behind, and making cracks by scribing them with a hobby knife.

The propelers are all bent to the correct angles useing photos enlarged to 1/48 and bending them until they matched.

The pealing deicer boots were made using apoxy putty, and the wrinkles in the skin were made wih a dremel tool and smoothed over with steel wool.

Paint weathering amd markings:

The overall color of the aircraft is Tamiya dark yellow. The aircrafts insigneas were airbrushed on using the kit decals as stencils. I used Tamiya medium blue to represent the faded insignea blue. The name and aircraft number were hand painted on using Tamiya paint. The aircraft is waethered also using Tamiya Dark yellow. What I did was only weather everything that was not dark yellow with dark yellow so that it gives the impression of the entire aircrfat being covered in dust.

Tha base is part of a cutt apart hallow door, and it was covered in a mixsture of celluclay, white glue and sand.

over all I had a very fun time building this kit.

I also hope to start posting back on here regularly. And sorry about how long this post is.

Vintage Aircraft

P.S. I want to thank Lawrence Hansen David Raatz again for taking there time to photograph my model, thank you.
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 22, 2004 1:49 PM
shrikes:
that B-17 is awesome !!!!
someday i'll get up the courage 2 finish my Fort...
thanx 4 posting the pix,

frosty
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    December 2002
Posted by Bossman on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:50 AM
Up until recently, progress on the 1/48 B-24D has been slow, but the last few nights have been rather productive as I have been modelling alot of the fiddly parts while watching the Yanks and the Sox battle it out on TV.

I hit a major snag though - please help if you can.

Just before joining the fuselage halves, I had to apply the small sections of the national insignia decals on the waist gunner doors. These are the only decals that are used on the interior, and I know they will be a foreshadowing of things to come. I have been worried about the decals because I know the kit that I bought is old. They aren't yellowed, but I'm guessing they've gotta be 10+ yrs.

The surface of the door is not perfectly flat. There is some raised rivet detail and the decal wraps over the door edge a little. The decals were incredibly stiff and they did't respond to setting solution. I armed myself with Micro-Sol and surprisingly that only had a mild effect. after the decal dried, I chipped off the loose pieces and painted the exposed areas with the appropriate color.

Any ideas ? I dont want to go through this with all of the decals - some of them need to cover even more irregular surfaces.

Other than that, things have gone well. Sorry I don't have pics for ya.

Chris
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    November 2003
  • From: Manila, Philippines
Posted by shrikes on Monday, October 18, 2004 8:31 PM
Thanks, Joe and Drew!

The Academy kit is really the only B-17 around in 1/72. (The Hasegawa kits are really hard to find and have raised panel lines. I think there was a matchbox one too... but that may have been in 1/76)

The fit is alright, but you have to watch out for the wing dihedral, and there are often ghastly seams at the wing roots. aside from that and the usual crappy academy decals, the academy kit is great!
Blackadder: This plan's as cunning as a fox that used to be Professor of cunning at Oxford University but has now moved on and is working with the U.N at the high commission of cunning planning
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  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Monday, October 18, 2004 9:32 AM
Hi all,

Another short update: I started sanding the fuselage seam and, wonder of wonders, it's going really well! I guess after all the sanding I did on the wings, the fuselage seam is a piece of cake.

I'm hoping to get some photos taken soon with my parents' digital camera so I can post them here.

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Monday, October 18, 2004 8:44 AM
That's an excellent-looking B-17! How was the build? Is the Academy kit a good one?

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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    September 2011
Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, October 18, 2004 8:35 AM
my friend that looks great. good stuff.


joe

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