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AIRCRAFT - Mustang Ranch... P-51 Group Build--ends 12/31/04

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:31 PM
Pix, good looking pit. Nice painting, as usual.

Jeff, you really don't have to clean the prepainted PE. Eduard did it for you.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by gwaihir on Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:21 PM
Dang Pix,
Your cockpit, especially the 1st picture, is beautiful (as usual!!) Have you ever done a write up on your cockpit techniques?? That is something that should go in the magazine Bow [bow]
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by yeehah12001

12-08-04
Hey Blackwolf, any chance of a few photos of damaged and shot up Mustangs, especially RAF ones? Melted the tail-rudder on mine and now thiking I may have to operate ( cue thunder and lighting flashes).




Will also take a gander 'fer 'ya...


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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:15 PM
Oh, by the way, Sanderson_91, I'm pretty sure I have some images of Salem Representative somewhere. Just haf'ta take a gander...


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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:13 PM
That's one mighty fine lookin' Stallion 'ya got there, Bill...


Rick, looks like 'yer ready 'fer a hoedown, what'n'with all them resin'n brass fixins...


To all who've joined the build in the last few... I have yet, as you can see, to add your names to the list. Rest assured I will do so, I'm simply swamped with stuff at the moment...


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Posted by Butz on Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:06 PM
Hey wibhi2,
Tank, I mean thank you O so much for the kind words there pal..... Its actually nice to sit down and build for once!!
I started this Stang about 3mnths ago and as you can see, I am almost ready to put some paint on herTongue [:P].
So whaz up w/ you, long time no chat... Thanks again.
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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:07 PM
great looking builds all.


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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:32 PM
Wheeeeeeeeee Doggie wiiiiiild Bill, you done showed out wid at' ar' pony feller!! i mighty fine mess o' paintin' and sech!!

Woodbeck (salty tips his hat slowly with his left index finger, eyes a squintin', right hand itchin' to draw...................then, a big grin appears with a half a plug of tabacco showing, yellow, green, and black teeth are sparsely scattered amongst his grill, they look as if some one has given them a wash of dark umber, with some dark pastels to show some wear, ain't seen no dentist in 20 or so years)
jeff.............you come mighty close to bein' kilt friend!! i surmised fer a minute you uz' gonna draw!!! skeered me haff to deth!! nice technique pardner!! LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:41 PM
12-08-04
Hey Blackwolf, any chance of a few photos of damaged and shot up Mustangs, especially RAF ones? Melted the tail-rudder on mine and now thiking I may have to operate ( cue thunder and lighting flashes).

Thinking: diorama...comin' atcha'... crashed or beat-up RAF Mustang just after landing...hhmmmmmmmmm...
( cue: Theme from "The Virginian" )

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:53 PM
Ah'd say we's got us a stablefull o' fine lookin' horseflesh here ! Great work on y'alls builds so fer !

Well, thanks tah BlackWolf's fine pitcherz, I wuz able tah REE-paint mah mount's saddle areah. I'm a uzin' that thar Eduard dee-tale set, with a mess 'o fine lookin' parts on it.

You can mozey on up 'eer & have a look-see at mah ride, If'n yewd like.




Ah used some 'o that there micro solder for the hose, 'n some strands from a braided shield in an ole audio cable fer the wir'n. Hopin' yew fellerz kin see it ! Thanks a heap fer a-lookin' !
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:36 AM
Come in, spures a'chinging on the floor* Howdy Saltydog. If'n I tells ya on my tek'nik on that thar Instru'ent panel, that'll be 2 bits payment *Hand slowly rubs my ivory handled Colt navy hang'n at the waist* 2 Bits info that is at my best recon'n in time *Winks at saltydog* That Thar is firstly painted flat black, then ole drybrushed with flat white to bring out them ole details. Aften this all dries I dropped in a drop or two of that Future stuff an' it brang's out that thar flat black background might purdy don't it? Plus'n it makes like that has that fangled glass stuff o'front the dials.

Plasticmod... you have a colored PE set there!!! how ya gonna clean it, just soap and water???
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Posted by wibhi2 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:19 PM
Anyone need a squadron vac-formed malcom hood? Ah done have one in da box wit da filly, but as far ah's I know'd , chindit's didn't have 'em. Or fer that matter, True details criss cross tire pattern. As far as I kin tell, chindit's A wing tires were the straight pattern.
(unless of course y'all can prove me wrong).

The stuff came with the kit, so it's no loss to me.
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:24 PM
Well that thar Pony Express Rider rode up to mah gate today & dropped off a box just fulla that thar Resin. Came all the way from that thar upnorth Canadie. Bet that Pony is tired as all git out.



Anyhoo, now ah got no more excooses. Gotta start roundin up that thar Stallion.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by sanderson_91 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BlackWolf3945

Steve, this the photo?


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I didn't post this shot before because even though I was pretty sure that it's McKennon, it does not have any nose art at all and I had not done a whole bunch of research on it until now. But after a bit of looking around, I've come to find that this is the aircraft in which 'Mac' was shot down on August 28th, 1944.

Here's the same ship leading a mixed formation of aircraft from all three 4th FG squadrons:


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Whether this particular Mustang ever carried the name 'Ridge Runner' and any nose art, I dunno for sure, but I doubt it. If my information is correct, 'Mac' was assigned this particular ship less than a month before he was shot down in it. I suppose a month is enough time to paint a bit of nose art on a plane but that kinda stuff didn't take priority.

As a matter of interest, as far as I now know, the aircraft 'Mac' flew before this one was a P-51B named 'Yippee Joe'. Here's a page that I recently rediscovered which has some info on McKennon:

Pierce McKennon - The "Ridge Runner"

Be aware that the profile on that page showing this particular ship (44-13883) is incorrect in that it shows the aircraft as having a dorsal fin. This ship was an early P-51D without the fin; my point being: if that's incorrect, there may be other incorrect info on that page as well.

If the second P-51D that 'Mac' flew (and what I believe to be the first P-51D to carry the name 'Ridge Runner') carried invasion stripes, it most likely only had them on the undersurfaces, similar to what you see above, or it may have only carried them on the undersurface of the fuselage.


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Blackwolf - that's the photo! You are the man!! I couldn't tell if the nose art was there or if it was just the glare off the metal. You wouldn't happen to have any shots of The Salem Representative, would you? I have the box cover of an old Monogram kit - P51B Mustang and Panther tank and it shows the 51 with OD tops and bare metal fuselage sides. I'm not sure if this is correct or not. I still have the decals from this kit and want to use them on the Tamiya B model. Thanks!!

Steve

 

 

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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:44 PM
jeff, kick booty job on the pit and the whole build friend. very impressive!! i love the instument panel!! want to share how you did it?LOL thanks for sharing.

well, i'm a waitin' on at' ar' pony spress meseff rick!! just sent a telegram to em' ar' folk at squadron for some resin saddle's for me stangs. the company what gonna make me saddles is True Details, a good choice fer any kind a tack fer a stang. just a matter o' time now. later. (salty spits and ya here the ring of the spit tune in the background, and he wipes the tabaco juice from his chin with his sleeve)LOL. later.
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:26 PM
Jeff, real nice lookin for a test bed.

Glen, the pics are a little hard to make out, but looks like good progress.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:10 PM
Daaang, nice instruments on that-thar dashboard, woodbeck...

I NEED A BETTER CAMERA...


Frosty, a right pleasure havin' 'ya along 'fer'th ride. I'll go'n add 'yer name't'tha list, an' you'll'a be seein' 'yer name in print, real soon-like...


GLEN S, got your email. Looks like you're comin' along nicely. Here's the images you sent...








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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:20 PM
Thanks for the comments. Youll notice now there is a red x where my pic was before. Well I have gone past that point and dont some more work. I flat coated the od and now I am finishing her up....





Yep she was a test bed, for my NMF finish on my actual build for 'is here build, testing the painted on look over the NMF that is.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:08 PM
wild horses everywhere !
well, since i'm working on a p51d currently, it makes sense 2 join this GB...
if it's OK w/ the gang, i'll jump in w/ the airfix 1/72 p51d/k kit .
"i want the stallion !" 2 quote Apollo Creed...Big Smile [:D]
my plan is 2 finish a 'stang in Tuskeegee red tail markings,
but i mite end up doing something else w/ this one since i also
have the academy p51d Red Tails kit w/ the rite decals already included.
since i really need a deadline 2 finish anything, can my horsie play too ?

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by wibhi2 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 5:22 AM
WOW.....everyone is showing great progress so far. It's also nice to see Butz get some of his work posted again. Amazingly, all of this before the start date.

As for me (insert jepordy theme song - or "wait Mr. Postman" as sung by the beatles) waiting for roll and the AW PE set along with the Verliden Allison V1710 Enginge. Big question I am wrestlin' with is weather or not I should have gotten the flap set as well.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:41 AM
Darson, welcum t'the Ranch, pard. Nice't have'a wrustler from'a down under in town. We'll try'n show 'ya some Yankee hospitality and I'll go'in add 'yer name'ta that-thar list'a Ranchers after I'ma done lookin' at tha inside'a ma eyelids...


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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:49 PM
Steve, this the photo?



I didn't post this shot before because even though I was pretty sure that it's McKennon, it does not have any nose art at all and I had not done a whole bunch of research on it until now. But after a bit of looking around, I've come to find that this is the aircraft in which 'Mac' was shot down on August 28th, 1944.

Here's the same ship leading a mixed formation of aircraft from all three 4th FG squadrons:



Whether this particular Mustang ever carried the name 'Ridge Runner' and any nose art, I dunno for sure, but I doubt it. If my information is correct, 'Mac' was assigned this particular ship less than a month before he was shot down in it. I suppose a month is enough time to paint a bit of nose art on a plane but that kinda stuff didn't take priority.

As a matter of interest, as far as I now know, the aircraft 'Mac' flew before this one was a P-51B named 'Yippee Joe'. Here's a page that I recently rediscovered which has some info on McKennon:

Pierce McKennon - The "Ridge Runner"

Be aware that the profile on that page showing this particular ship (44-13883) is incorrect in that it shows the aircraft as having a dorsal fin. This ship was an early P-51D without the fin; my point being: if that's incorrect, there may be other incorrect info on that page as well.

If the second P-51D that 'Mac' flew (and what I believe to be the first P-51D to carry the name 'Ridge Runner') carried invasion stripes, it most likely only had them on the undersurfaces, similar to what you see above, or it may have only carried them on the undersurface of the fuselage.


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Posted by sanderson_91 on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by newtothegame

QUOTE: Originally posted by sanderson_91

Blackwolf and Newtothegame - I've found a picture of Ridge Runner (can't see noseart due to glare off the bare metal) but the plane code is WD A. It has partial invasion stripes - black & white on the fuselage and it looks like black only on the wing. If you have the Squadron Signal P-51D walkaround the photo is on page 32. I don't have my scanner hooked up yet, but I'll try to get it working and scan the picture in.

Steve


Thanks Steve. I don't have that book, so a scan would be VERY appreciated. Awesome!!
Leon


I had to order a new driver in order to get my scanner running. It should be here by Friday so I'll try to get the Ridge Runner picture posted by the weekend.

Steve

 

 

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Posted by darson on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:15 PM
OK, I'm in. Thumbs Up [tup]

Put me down for a Tamiya 1/48 P-51B.

Cheers
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Posted by saltydog on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:54 PM
great progess everyone!!

Newtothegame, i dont worry to much about the wheel wells, but thats me.

i still have to order the aires PE and resin cockpit for my builds. i'll be pokin' along soon i guess. later.
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Posted by gwaihir on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sanderson_91

Blackwolf and Newtothegame - I've found a picture of Ridge Runner (can't see noseart due to glare off the bare metal) but the plane code is WD A. It has partial invasion stripes - black & white on the fuselage and it looks like black only on the wing. If you have the Squadron Signal P-51D walkaround the photo is on page 32. I don't have my scanner hooked up yet, but I'll try to get it working and scan the picture in.

Steve


Thanks Steve. I don't have that book, so a scan would be VERY appreciated. Awesome!!
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Posted by sanderson_91 on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:16 PM
Blackwolf and Newtothegame - I've found a picture of Ridge Runner (can't see noseart due to glare off the bare metal) but the plane code is WD A. It has partial invasion stripes - black & white on the fuselage and it looks like black only on the wing. If you have the Squadron Signal P-51D walkaround the photo is on page 32. I don't have my scanner hooked up yet, but I'll try to get it working and scan the picture in.

Steve

 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:30 PM
leon thats easy. i dont. havent had the guts to try them yet.

great progress by the way.

joe

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:53 PM
Great progress everyone. I'll get a goin as soon as I get my resin stuff from Ultracast.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by gwaihir on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:47 PM
Woodbeck, Did you make that just for testing? It takes me so long to complete anything that I doubt I would ever make something for testing. Anyway looks good. I'll bet you're excited to get going on the big whole project.

Anyway here is my post cockpit progress of the wheel wells. What I am curious about is how do you guys try to represent all of the wiring/tubing/whatever it is in there - There is tons of it! so I just did a couple and called it good, but am curious for future builds how others handle it.
Leon

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