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  • From: Cape Town, South Africa
Posted by osjohnm on Thursday, April 7, 2005 2:00 PM
Jon, here is a link to an article at ARC about the RoG F-14 where the Teknics seats were used.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Fea1/301-400/Fea361_F-14_Gok/Fea361.htm
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 1:58 PM
Sorry for my ignorance, but i have a question.
How I tell you i will buil a Hasegawa 1/48 F-14D 'CVW1-14'. This model came with two sets of decals, for VF-11 and VF-31.

I will build this model OOB(i live in Costa Rica and I canĀ“t find a good seller to buy aftermarket components), and i will use the VF-31 decals set. This VF-31 plane is a CAG plane. I want to know what is the meaning of CAG?.

Thanks!!
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Posted by armorman on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:45 PM
WELCOME BACK REGGIE!!! Hope life is treating you well in the deep south pacific. I especially hope you are kicking a@@ in softball.
I got a question for everyone here.... I grabbed a 1/32 RoG F-14A at a swap for 10 bucks and (she's a beaut! great recessed lines and great cockpit!!!!) I see a Teknics cockpit detail set on Ebay. Will the two mesh?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 9:39 AM
nope, the furthest north ive been is penang. i was there for 1 1/2 weeks tompang-ing my dad's business trip. it was sooooooo boring! there isnt 1 1/2 weeks of stuff to do there, all there is to do is eat and look at old forts and rubbish. i would love to go to places like sabah and sarawak.

oh wait, i been to taman negara before, is that closer ? my malaysian geography is crappy [:S] taman negara was fun, we did all the hiking stuff and it rocked Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:53 AM
welcome back reggie , its seems u n i are the nearest to each other im in sabah now , been here before ?

Hmm John im more interested on how u manage the nose job. cant wait to see your photo just to get some idea on how you tame the mono bird.

i just use pastel to darken some of the panel lines i really hope tp let the cat standing on the table .

Chaos guys
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 5:51 AM
hi cat gang ! im baaaaaaaack !

it was pretty bad of me to drop off the radar all of a sudden, when school and softball got kinda hectic i pretty much had to put all the models into boxes and relegate them to under the table =( mitch and andrew both shot me emails, it warms my heart to know that i got buddies who still think of me even when i havent been around. i dont think i can break out the compressor and the sandpaper until late may, thats when the season ends for my division. looks like everyone here is on their way to putting out some beautiful tomcats, i better get cracking as soon as i can !
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Posted by osjohnm on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 2:27 AM
Sentry, I think its a combination of hi and lo vis, its the CAG bird which is always rather bright.

I've done some test fitting and there shouldn't be any cockpit problems. The nose is another story.

Will post more pics once the cockpit is done and the front fuselage has been glued together.
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 8:14 PM
Great painting job all of you!!

Im working right now in my Has 1/48 F-14D, I hope i will post some pics soon!
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Posted by Zone V Afterburner on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MA Cooke
EVERYONE: has anyone heard from Reggie in Singapore? He hasn't posted for a while. Hope he's doing OK. That kid is funny!


Nope I havn't heard from him either.I thought about shooting him an e-mail to see what was up,but I am about to leave for the week and would hate to take that long to reply to him if he responds.It looks like everyone is slavin' away.Awesome jobs on the painting everyone!..I have my cockpit painted,but I am not happy with it..Almost like there is not enough detail.So while I am out on the road I will give it some thought to see what I can come up with to improve it a little.Anyway you guys take care...I will chat at ya next week. Later on!!!

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you........ Jesus Christ......and the American soldier..... One died for your soul......... The other....for your Freedom!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:21 AM
John actaully i thin with tamiya thinner too , not sure why is it freezed on the tip of the needles.

The VF 154 cam decal is nice is it a Hi vis marking ? And the cockpit did u test fit ? or u cut the cockpit fuselage from the body ? nice paint job.

Ususcn : nice paint job cant wait to see more
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Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:31 AM
How's everyone going in here? I haven't been in here for a while. Looks like some great progress has been made while I've been away. Enough to get me off my ****** and thinking about my cat again. I'm gonna try Jon's approach and stick the wings in after gluing the fuselage halves together. Looks alot simpler that way, and it means I can get it all buttoned up soon. Then back to filling and sanding, but it shouldn't be so bad now, because it's not the inside of the intakes.

Keep up the good work everyone.Thumbs Up [tup]
-Daniel
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Posted by bstrump on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 1:24 AM
Chuck, that is looking awesome!Thumbs Up [tup]The Fujimi kit sure builds up into a nice kiity cat, doesn't it? I can't wait to see more progress pics. And I've always liked those Gunze acrylics but darn it, they're hard to find.
John, glad to see some progress pics! The pit is lookin' good and I love the look of those VF-154 decals. Man, I can't wait to see this one decaled!
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Posted by osjohnm on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 12:55 AM
Hi all

Mitch,Sentry I use the enamel paint range from Tamiya hence I've had no problems with them. The finish is amazing. Haven't tried the acrylic range but I do know that you should use the Tamiya acrylic thinners with them. Has a retarder in it.

Mitch, will take some pics of the decals and mail them later.
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 12:08 AM
As promised here are some images of the Fujimi VF-41 Black Aces Tomcat.
Overall Lt Gull Grey 16440, With Med Grey 35237 wing fold bladders.

Using Gunze Aqueous acrylics. Laid down rather nicely.

The next step is to mask of the canopy and nose area to paint Flat Black.
Then soon after to mask off the wings and do the leading edges in natural metal using Alclad Aluminum metalizer. The exhaust area looks pretty good after removing the mask.

With this initial part of the painting phase completed, drop tanks and other components that are also in the Gull Grey are painted as well. That means we are almost done. After painting the black, I will then do the random paneling in different shades of grey and grime to depict an aircraft in wartime operation.
This should be fun.

Still a lot left to do. More to follow as we progress.

Chuck
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Posted by armorman on Monday, April 4, 2005 11:10 PM
hey mitch! try thinning with windex. It has worked very well of late.
Looking Good osjohnm! Keep those progress pics flowing.
I did a little work on the P-47 D motor tonight and then stopped to see Carolina beat Illinois. Hell of a game. Go TAR HEELS!
Next Up: 1/35 Tamiya Merkava 1/48 Tamiya King Tiger 1/35 Dragon M1A1 AIM
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 4, 2005 10:50 PM
Mitch it seem this happens with darker grey paint ( the tamiya ones) i been facing this problem on n off , at firs i tot it was the mixing of thinner ratios until i put too much thinner in it. but darn, it happen to me again last night freeze on the tip of the needles. i have to use commercial thinner to clean while the paint bottle still attached Shit.

This tamiya paints also turn whites after couple days with grains around aaargh. but i don care will varnished it later .
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Posted by MA Cooke on Monday, April 4, 2005 4:37 PM
John:

What do the kit decals look like? Could you send me a photo of the VF-31 decals? MACooke@fuse.net

I bought some VF-31 decals for an F-14D, but they do not have the "NK" on the inside of the vertical stabilizers, and the markings for the lower (ventral?) fins are black, not yellow as I want.

IF you don't want them, maybe I know someone who may want them (me).

That cockpit tub sure looks dark gull grey to me. I tried again to airbrush Tamiya acrylics last night, I'm convinced they are put here by Satan himself. Every time I tried to airbrush them they dried in the airbrush and on the tip of the needle. I was thinning with isopropyl alcohol.

I hate those damn paints.

On Bench: AM P-51B, Tamiya 1/48 F4U-1A On Deck: Hasegawa F-14's (too many); Tamiya P-47D; Academy P-47N;
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Posted by osjohnm on Monday, April 4, 2005 4:03 PM
Hi all

At long last I have some progress pics!!!
Here is the tub which was painted with Tamiya XF-54 which according to the cross reference charts is dark gull grey.

Here are the other parts that received some XF-54.


Lastly here is a shot of the CAM decals for the CAG bird from VF-154.


I decided to stick with the VF-154 markings as the VF-84 decals don't have markings for the fuel tanks.
Heck, now I have the kit decals for VF-31 hi-vis, VF-32 lo-vis and the CAM decals for VF-84 hi-vis and VF-51 hi-vis. Going to have to do some F-14 shopping Big Smile [:D]

Hmmm...on second thoughts how about we just another F-14 group buildWhistling [:-^]
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 4, 2005 1:10 PM
Was able to paint the Gloss Lt Gull Grey yesterday. Looks pretty good now as I will let it sit for 24 hrs to let the paint set before I go masking off for the black trim on the nose and canopy. Images to follow this afternoon.

Chuck
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Posted by MA Cooke on Monday, April 4, 2005 12:10 PM
Thanks TransAm.

Sentry: yes you can call me Mitch.

EVERYONE: has anyone heard from Reggie in Singapore? He hasn't posted for a while. Hope he's doing OK. That kid is funny!

I'm getting THIS CLOSE (hold your thumb and forefinger about 1/8" apart, in a "pincer" grasp) to putting Future then wash then decals on my 'Cat. Can't wait can't wait can't wait!!!

I'm hoping to have this 'Cat done by April 27, a good friend wants me to take it and show it at his R/C club's "static" air show. He thinks I can earn some business from R/C guys who don't want to paint (or can't paint) their planes. I've also started Hasegawa's 1/48 F-4E, to be done in 'Nam era camo.
On Bench: AM P-51B, Tamiya 1/48 F4U-1A On Deck: Hasegawa F-14's (too many); Tamiya P-47D; Academy P-47N;
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Posted by osjohnm on Monday, April 4, 2005 7:31 AM
Hi all

My CAM decals were just delivered to the office, will post some pics tonight.
VF-154 CAG, VF-84 and VF-51....hmmm...the agony of choice!

John
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Posted by Zone V Afterburner on Saturday, April 2, 2005 9:45 AM
Dang Mitch....nice Masking job!!! Looks awesome! Just my My 2 cents [2c] here,but I think the way that the cockpit is masked off on the real F-14's (similiar to the way yours is Mitch) looks the best.....makes the 'Cat look more menacing.(Does that sound right?)Anyway...I painted the consoles of my cockpit last saturday,only to have them look like I dumped paint on them (too thick) so I stripped the cockpit Sunday afternoon...had orientation at my new job monday,then left for the week.I just got back today (Sat April 2) after going from OKC to New York,to Arizona.Hopefully today after I mow the lawn,I can re-prime and shoot the basecoat and then hopefully detail tomorrow...I will let you guys know..Later on!!
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you........ Jesus Christ......and the American soldier..... One died for your soul......... The other....for your Freedom!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 2, 2005 9:37 AM
mitch that sounds nice. cant wait to see the plane from the paint job later on.

hi amour welcome back too .Pls rest well then . After that get the cat out for make up Big Smile [:D] just kidding ol chap, anyway take it easy man

i try to use some weathering technique fro the burner cans from ARC as been told by mitch earlier on once. The other day i browse through it i tot i check it out. so i just try it out on the cat cans . well keep my finger cross. here it is not as good as paul did (in ARC).



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Posted by osjohnm on Saturday, April 2, 2005 8:29 AM
Hey Armorman

Its quite warm today but the wind is pumping. Hence no Humbrol flat coat testing.
Autumn has hit as the mornings and evenings are getting colder. Hopefully winter is just around the corner, we need rain badly.

As for the Cat, I've been removing parts off the sprues and dry-fitting. Going to need some filler but nothing too serious it seems.

Good to hear from you again, enjoy the game.
John
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Posted by armorman on Friday, April 1, 2005 9:42 PM
Well, guys- everything is looking good! Mitch, I think you are going to have a heck of a Tomcat.
Dallas was boring- I'm exhausted and build time this weekend looks nonexistant. I will say that I am going to shelve the 'Cat for the next week and work on the Tamiya P-47D. Tomorrow consists of recuperating the the sleep I never got and the Michigan St. Carolina game. Soooo- everybody have a good weekend.
Sentry- Good to hear from you!!! How is the build coming along?
osjohnm- how's the weather in Cape Town?
Next Up: 1/35 Tamiya Merkava 1/48 Tamiya King Tiger 1/35 Dragon M1A1 AIM
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Posted by MA Cooke on Friday, April 1, 2005 11:18 AM
sentry: Yes, once I'm satisfied with the overall painting (which will be soon, I hope - I want to do a bit more of the "patchwork" in various greys), I'll put a couple coats of Future on it, then I'll apply a very dark grey wash, I'll use either Tamiya acrylics (water-based) or Testors Model Master Acryl. For the vertical stabs and the area around the canopy that's "insignia blue", I'll probably wash with a medium greyish color, maybe neutral grey, medium grey, or dark gull grey.

I may get brave and do some light washing before the gloss goes on. That won't come up as well when you wipe it with a wet rag, it adds to the "dirty" look of an F-14 (I did this 10 years ago).
On Bench: AM P-51B, Tamiya 1/48 F4U-1A On Deck: Hasegawa F-14's (too many); Tamiya P-47D; Academy P-47N;
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 1, 2005 7:01 AM
john i use artist matt varnish( the one use for alcrylic paint) on my cat fuel tank seems ok in case if u feel u want other type of method. But u doing fine im sure.

its nice mitch , can i call u mitch. Big Smile [:D].
will u coat it ? wash it ? with oil ?
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Posted by osjohnm on Friday, April 1, 2005 3:14 AM
Hi all

Looks like the Tamiya Gloss might actually worked. Tried it out on a fuel tank last night.
Will try the Humbrol flat this weekend. Keep your fingers crossed.
John
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Posted by MA Cooke on Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:39 PM
Anyone seen Reggie? He hasn't posted in a while. Hope he's OK, maybe he's busy w/ school, sports, etc.
On Bench: AM P-51B, Tamiya 1/48 F4U-1A On Deck: Hasegawa F-14's (too many); Tamiya P-47D; Academy P-47N;
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Posted by MA Cooke on Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:27 AM
osjohnm:

Ah, this F-14 is actually a "kit-bash" of two Hasegawa F-14's...I started with an A model, then an unfortunate accident befell it (I knocked it off my desk accidentally then stepped on it, my 19-month old toddler was getting underfoot). I then obtained a D model, most of which you see before you. The D model's canopy had a crack, so I salvaged the canopy out of the A model. The wings are from the A model, too...(I had already built them and just used them). I decided to glue the cracked canopy on instead of masking around the cockpit.

I did file, sand, and polish out the seam that runs down the middle of the canopy. It came out OK, but there are some minor scuff marks that I just can't get rid of...I used a file, then 600 grit paper, then the two stages of the fine and ultra extra fine sticks, then Bare Metal plastic polish. Oh well...

Thanks for the comments.
On Bench: AM P-51B, Tamiya 1/48 F4U-1A On Deck: Hasegawa F-14's (too many); Tamiya P-47D; Academy P-47N;
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