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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Saturday, January 8, 2005 7:10 AM

Thanks heaps Rick and Karl, but I already have the Ultracast Wheel well replacement as well as their Hurricane seat with armor plate (I'm a bit of an Ultracast junkie actually).

Cheers
Darren

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, January 8, 2005 6:51 AM

Sean, you sound like me... always wanting to try this or that... not sure about hand painting insignia for me yet tho... these old hands are a bit shaky... and don't worry about reading that manual... once you're through breaking the missus' camera, she'll need it to whack you around with... Wink [;)]

Karl and Rick, reading about that reminded me... usually one of the parts I like least in a kit is the seat... I may have to invest in a set for the next kit I do to see how it works...

Hope you're feeling better Rick!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, January 8, 2005 6:48 AM

I got your email Jules, and sent the info to ya.
Thanks again

Darren, ta for the pics. One of them shows alot of detail as far as the weathering goes on the front cowl, around the oil cooler.
And that Hurricane would have been a pig to fly with that much damage Shock [:O]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, January 8, 2005 3:36 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

darson, Ultracast makes a really nice resin replacement for the Hasegawa Hurricane wheel bays. Gets rid of those injector pin marks.

Regards, Rick

Rick You beat me too it, I was just going to recommend the Ultracast part! I'm about to order that and the replacement seat, and flight surfaces from Ultracast, and having read the reviews on Hyperscale, I'm really looking forward to using them.

I did a dry run with the Hurricane last night, and all the parts fit beautifully, I can't see there being much need of filler with this kit!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 8, 2005 1:35 AM

Hey TweetyI sent you an email but i'm not sure whether it went through or not,
I can't find your Postal Address so can you send me an email with it again and i'll stick those seatbelts in the mail on Mon Thumbs Up [tup]

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, January 8, 2005 12:10 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

those who don't post pics are weenies.... er.. well that's what Tweety said, in case you wanna get mad and beat someone up or something

Um, didnt we agree you wouldn't mention that Tom Question [?]

Pffffft, trust!! Sign - Dots [#dots]

Thanks for the advice on the camera, I will give that a go soon.
And whats this about 'reading the instruction manual' Question [?]

I dont wanna hear anymore nonsense about reading stuff, ok.

Geez, like there'd be any info I could use in it anyways................................ Tongue [:P]

Well, tonight I am doing the camo scheme on the 109 so hopefully it will turn out looking good first go.
(pfft, yeah right!!)
Gonna paint up the radiator grills and other external bits in the mean time, and I even had a thought of trying to paint on the black cross, just for s***s and giggles.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, January 7, 2005 9:36 PM

darson, Ultracast makes a really nice resin replacement for the Hasegawa Hurricane wheel bays. Gets rid of those Censored [censored]

injector pin marks.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, January 7, 2005 8:57 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Well, I have a Fuji S5500.

I got it around 2 months ago, and have used it very little to be honest.
The missus went a little nuts, considering I already have 3 SLR's, (love film!)

ok Sean, I looked it up and it's a decent cam indeed! you should be able to do macro from about 10cm...

(not to sound like the missus, but....) did you read the manual? you need to set it to macro mode, then WITHOUT the zoom, all the way tight in to the least (zero) zoom move the camera in on the subject till you are as close as you wanna be... might throw a shadow on the kit but as long as it doesnt darken what you wanna show you are ok...

press the button to autofocus then shoot! Plenty of light and a steady hand are good for this!

if it has trouble focusing then it needs more light... also, try cropping the pic to just include the subject (like your instrument panel) it automatically blows it up for ya... brings it in real close.. I will see if I can download the manual tomorrow and read on it... the camera itself is ok!

I will crop your instrument panel pic tonight or tomorrow and show you what I mean...

---edit---

ok here is yours:

and the one I just cropped:

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, January 7, 2005 8:48 PM

those who don't post pics are weenies.... er.. well that's what Tweety said, in case you wanna get mad and beat someone up or something Wink [;)]

Well got the cockpit in, exhausts on, just waiting till the AM to put the fuselage on the wings and I will post some more pics... gotta look at some more resources for the underside color of my aircraft.. some say sky blue, some say sky gray... one ref says the sea gray didnt start till very late 40/early 41 the other earlier... I will see what I can find, if nothing else I will paint it with what I have..

I *do* have to get the sky for the tail stripe... (duck egg green) a little detail but I wanna get the paint right...

for this model the overall looks are what is important, not the interior.. (you cant see the interior without a flashlight and magnifiers anyway so doubt I will ever do interior PE on this one)

BTW: for those who joined late I am talking about my martlet...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Friday, January 7, 2005 6:58 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by jboutin

Thanks, darson and razordws, I'll look for decals carpena at one of the local hobby shops. I'll have to check on the size first though. I think for my first kit back, I'm going to try a basic OOTB build, from some of the reviews I've read, the Hasegawa kt is excellent for "in the box" details. I think I'm going try to get that kit.

Looking forward to building this.

darson, at the end, is there going to be pics posted of everybody's finished aircraft?

jboutin, I have the Hase Mk.I Hurricane and it's a really nice kit. If I get the Spitfire done in time and I'm not up to my lower lip in other projects I might just do that for this build as well. About the only issue with the kit is there are some fairly prominent ejector pin marks in the wheel well that would be very difficult to remove. Aside from that it's a great kit.

As to posting pics of everybody’s builds, I certainly hope so. I want to see lots of progress pics and then see the finished product when it's done, but it's up to people to post their own pics for everybody to see.

Cheers
Darren

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wooverstone8

Member since
December 2003
From: Olympia, WA

Posted by wooverstone8 on Friday, January 7, 2005 6:07 PM

Hi all…

Here is my kit I’m using for this build. After I finish my current project I’ll be able to jump in and start with you guys. I will probably start on Wednesday maybe sooner. Cool [8D]

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Friday, January 7, 2005 5:31 PM

Thanks, darson and razordws, I'll look for decals carpena at one of the local hobby shops. I'll have to check on the size first though. I think for my first kit back, I'm going to try a basic OOTB build, from some of the reviews I've read, the Hasegawa kt is excellent for "in the box" details. I think I'm going try to get that kit.

Looking forward to building this. Tongue [:P]

darson, at the end, is there going to be pics posted of everybody's finished aircraft?

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Friday, January 7, 2005 5:08 PM

You can get the decals you need from Decals Carpena and they are available from quite a few places. I'm not sure if you need the 24", 36" or 48" serials so check your references before ordering.
Here is the link to a place I have used in Australia a number of times. You can also get these from Hannants in the UK.
http://sandlehobbies.com/decals/carpena/48/ca48052.html

Cheers
Darren

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Friday, January 7, 2005 3:19 PM

Maybe someone else here knows where to find some but failing that you could:

A) print your own by picking up a decal paper/kit from your LHS or
B) there is a guy here in Winnipeg at Spare Time Hobbies who will print them for you (for a modest fee). He has a web site http://www.sparetimehobbies.com/. I haven't used him myself but I hear his work is first rate.

Good luck!

Dave

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

decals for RCAF 1 sqdn

Posted by jboutin on Friday, January 7, 2005 2:29 PM

Hey, here's a question for decal / marking experts.

I want to do a hurricane from RCAF 1 sqdn and I know the letter codes they used (YO*_) but I can't find any hurricane decals that have their codes, I just need the fuselage letters. Does anyone know of any aftermarket decals that would have the right size for 1:48 scale? I suppose I could paint them on but seeing as I am just getting back into modelling, that is probably beyond my skills at this point.

I've been looking all over the web and in some hobby shops close by (in Calgary AB, Canada) and can't find any Sad [:(]

.

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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osher

Member since
April 2003
From: Edgware, London

Posted by osher on Friday, January 7, 2005 5:51 AM

I don't know if this helps anyone, but I live right by the RAF Museum, including their BoB hall. If anyone needs specific pictures, I can pop along there on in the next week or so, and photograph your needs. Not sure what they have their, it's been a while since I was last there.

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Friday, January 7, 2005 4:01 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1
Darson, do you have other pics showing the forward section of the E3?
I have a funny feeling the panel lines around the nose section aren't quite right either.

Tweety, these are a couple of decent shots that I have which I hope will help you out, plus I think they really set the mood nicely for the BoB GB.

Also check out the Aircraft Resource Center in their walkarounds section. They have some great shots (including nose) of the Bf109 E http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/

Plus, I just couldn't resist posting this for all those building Hurricanes, just how tough was this aircraft?

Cheers
Darren
(Sorry to chew up your bandwidth everyone)

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osher

Member since
April 2003
From: Edgware, London

Posted by osher on Friday, January 7, 2005 3:50 AM

I'm going to start on the build this Sunday. I had been planning on building a bf-110, but found that my Fujimi kit was for a later one, and no one it seems has a kit on the market for correct type. Actually, very few bf-110 kits around, which is surprising. So, I've got now the Revell/Monogram 1/48 Spitfire Mk.II with Douglas Bader markings (as well as my Academy 1/72 bf-109e).

Not sure if to use some PE seatbelts yet. The Revell one comes with decals for seatbelts. Hmmm, not sure about that.

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, January 7, 2005 1:03 AM

Cossack, I did fill the gap!!!

Had to spend an hour unfilling it!
If darson hadn't brought the point up, I would have continued merrily, and found it wrong after painting.
Thanks again darson.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Friday, January 7, 2005 12:54 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1
...
Firstly no PE, then no seat belts, now a gap which is SPOSE to be there, and yet the front of the Tamiya cowling is wrong anyways, not steep enough.
I have the early model kit.

Nup, thats it, me and the Tonka truck are going home.

Tweet,

Just be grateful you hadn't started filling the gap!!! Big Smile [:D]

---------------------------------------

Ooops!!! Then I see that you had [:S]

Paul

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af53/raiderpilot/smprop_gb.jpg

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, January 6, 2005 11:48 PM

Jules, try dunking the canopy in some warm water for a bit, allow the heat time to settle the plastic.
Nicodemus, good to see you can start bulding with us Big Smile [:D]

Can't wait too see some progress shots!

Well, the cowl has been made right, and the fuselage and most of the under belly bits (radiator covers, flaps, bottom wing ass'y) have been given a coat of RLM 65, and are drying as we speak.
In a few hours I'll give the whole lot a coat of enamel clear for protection from handling, and then make a start on the fuse camo scheme.
Been practicing for a couple of hours getting the lines tight and controlled, so will see soon.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 11:13 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

hmmm seen what you are talking about before Jules and probably going tohave to grin and bear it... what scale Hellcat is it? I think I have a 1/72 canopy here... of course yours is probably 1/48

Yeah Tom it's 1/48 but thanks anyway Thumbs Up [tup]

hopefully the pledge will clear the white a bit Wink [;)]

cheers Jules........

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 6, 2005 9:04 PM

Looks like you're primed & ready nicodemus. Good luck on the build.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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nicodemus

Member since
May 2003
From: St.Louis, Missouri

Posted by nicodemus on Thursday, January 6, 2005 8:15 PM

Tallyho! fellow group builders! Big Smile [:D]

It's time to get started on my Hurricane Mk1. Got my workspace ready to go. Here's to some great work ahead! Wink [;)]

Looking forward to seeing some builds Thumbs Up [tup]

a humble ham-fisted modeler in the midwest-

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:49 PM

hmmm seen what you are talking about before Jules and probably going tohave to grin and bear it... what scale Hellcat is it? I think I have a 1/72 canopy here... of course yours is probably 1/48

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:36 PM

Hmmmm speaking of carrier based A/C i noticed that the Hellcat canopy was with the Mustang canopy when the book fell, and while it didn't break it came real close and is badly bent Grumpy [|(]

where the bend is the plastic has gone whiteish looking so after i heat it up and bend it back into posistion i'm hopeing a dunking in pledge will clear it up, if not i'm just gonna have to have an open canopy, hopefully it won't be to visible with the Dark blue on the fues behind it.......

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:22 PM

Jules, yeah I think the Pentax "might" take a better picture... Wink [;)]

I love my digital but would die to have the old Nikon I used to have.. someone stole it Angry [:(!]

... That thing took AWESOME pics!!!! What I saw on the PE looks good though! I might go for PE on my next build for this GB... not sure what it is yet.. The Tamiya F4F I have is going together so fast I can't believe it! And actually I solved another dillema as well today... was sitting there looking at the open box for the F4F and realized the upper wing national insignia for the F4F was the same size as the ones for the SBD... so my torn decal problem is over! I might sideline over the the SBD this weekend to finish it up and then back to this one..

I think I pulled a Tweety when I ordered the extra set of decals for the SBD and clicked on "ground mail" so I probably won't get them for a few more days... the good note is my Tuskegee airmen decals are on their way now too!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:17 PM

wow Rick! that is good... I'll have to remember that from now on if I have something someone else can use. Actually it's amazing! I used to pen-pal with a British girl I met in Spain when I was in the Navy and it took about 2 - 2.5 weeks for mail to go across...

Hope you're feeling better, so far the flu hasn't made it this far South in TX yet... it's knocking em down in Dallas though!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:15 PM

Tom i've tried all sorts of things to get a decent pic, but i reckon the camera is just not up to it Confused [%-)]

It's only a crappy Kodak with 2.0 mega pixels that we paid about $100;00 AU for, thats why i think for closeup shots and shots of the finished model will be taken with the Pentax.........
$100.00 Digital versus $3500.00 conventional, i wonder which one will win........
Seriuosly the Z-50 pentax with the extra closeup lens that i have can take some awesome closeup shots Thumbs Up [tup]

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:05 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cossack

Rick - sorry to hear about the flu. Those decals turned up this afternoon - you're an absolute champion!!

Still a bit under the weather, but better than yesterday. Glad the decals got there safely. Always a little queezy about trusting the mail, but they came through. When I asked how long to get to Australia, they told me one week. It was one week today that I mailed them. Absolutely amazing. Hope you can put them to good use.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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