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Tankmaster7

Member since
August 2004
From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:36 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Well "Charlie" (God rest his soul) decided he was bigger than his stitching is all I can say... I think Darren put him up to it but I won't tell...

Ready to see that 109 Jules... saw the 1/32 one down at the LHS for 89$ US and thinking about it... they also had a 1:24 Martlet er... ::cough:: WIldcat... I might think about retrofitting to a Martlet... will have to see how I can manage that in the Testors Decal program...

Tom, do you have the full version or just the sample? How is it? ie. quality, ease of use?

-Tanky

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:11 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Tweets - better we are talking about ya than forgetting about ya!

How can ya forget me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We share the same ward!!
Dunce [D)]

Are you taking your Alzheimers medication Tom??

As for Angelina Jolie, I kinda like her.
It's a 'locked room with the lights out kinda thing'

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:16 AM

Ha ha, found another pic from the photo album.

Jules, Tom, you guys should remember 'cordial' night. Wink [;)]

I love a woman (read-creature) with big hands Wink [;)]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:03 AM

Tweety, not good, gots me thirtsy at 9:30 in the morning here in the great white north (though it really isn't white right now). Gotta love that shot, I wish I could do that!
About the decal problem, 1st round of re-application worked a bit. I sliced the decal a bit around the wrinkle and it helped but I'll need to re-apply again. I also tried the custom decal again and this time it went on okay, but the edge wrinkled up and wasn't very straight, I guess I'll have to cut it better next time. This is so painful. I am almost finished but the decaling is taking forever!

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:57 AM

Hang in there Jay. You will overcome the obstacles.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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osher

Member since
April 2003
From: Edgware, London

Posted by osher on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:28 PM

Update: The Spitfire has been stripped of paint. The paintstripper has also discoloured the filler too, for some reason. Now to paint the underside again! 3rd time lucky?

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:20 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Well "Charlie" (God rest his soul) decided he was bigger than his stitching is all I can say... I think Darren put him up to it but I won't tell...

Ready to see that 109 Jules... saw the 1/32 one down at the LHS for 89$ US and thinking about it... they also had a 1:24 Martlet er... ::cough:: WIldcat... I might think about retrofitting to a Martlet... will have to see how I can manage that in the Testors Decal program...

Tom, do you have the full version or just the sample? How is it? ie. quality, ease of use?

Full version of what? sorry just got off work and put my mind in park...

oh yeah that was supposed to be 1/32 Wildcat up there... dyslexic fingers were typing one thing while thinking another...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:34 PM

Tweets How could i forget "Cordial Night" Y'know i've never seen a woman drink so much beer before Thumbs Up [tup]

I certainly remember those security guards and the Milk Truck incident, Hmmm that was another one of Toms hairbrained ideas......

Progress:::::::: I forgot to mention that my first foray into enamel paints worked just fine, the MM enamel RLM 65 flowed through the A/B very nicely, now onto the upper colours.......

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:05 PM

Tweets: forgot to reply to this... Edna (Kremps first cousin) certainly does have a handful doesnt she???

Jules - I know you and Edna are kinda close so could you put a word in for me mate????

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:11 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Tweets: forgot to reply to this... Edna (Kremps first cousin) certainly does have a handful doesnt she???

Jules - I know you and Edna are kinda close so could you put a word in for me mate????

A word and $100 bucks outta do it Jules Evil [}:)]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:18 PM

Tweets: $50 and a polaroid of Beulah Mae, Kremps niece that works in the circus as the half man half woman, and moonlights as the walrus woman...

deal?????

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:47 PM

Jules, good to hear that you're making progress Thumbs Up [tup]

. When do we get to see some pictures?

Cheers
Darren

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:57 PM

Darren 12 shots left on the film mate, i'll take those this week so hopefully by friday i'll have some pics Thumbs Up [tup]

BTW i can see why you like the MM enamels so much, i was impressed with the finish i acheived using them for the first time Thumbs Up [tup]

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:09 AM

Jules - MM does have some nice paints, and a great selection too! I use both those and the MM acrylics and love them both!!! Both seem rather consistent in the way the go on and the finish achieved...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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taxtp

Member since
April 2005
From: Australia

Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:39 AM

I may be too late. I've just signed up here, and I happen to have a 1/48 Spitfire 1 and a 1/72 109E on the go. Can I join this group build (my first one), or am I too late ?
Thanks
Tony (taxtp)
Melbourne Australia

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:35 PM

Finally some pics.........

The starboard side showing 'Figaro' Ian Gleed's personal logo.

From the back, showing the drooped elevators.

The underside, showing the poor job I made of the rear wing to fuselage joint.

Will probably try and get the canopy sorted tonight.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:39 PM

Looking good Karl. The underside join is a real bear, but yours looks OK in the pics. Thanks for the post.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:00 PM

Looking good Karl. I have been slowly adding micro sol and I even tried micro set too. it is slowly settling down. I may have to live with a few wrinkles anyway! Taped Shut [XX]

Other than that I truly am having fun with this build! Black Eye [B)]

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:26 PM

Looking good Karl, acn't wait to see it finished.

Keep at it Jay and show us some pics one of these days. Big Smile [:D]

Dave

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:31 PM

looks great Karl!!! a real winner of a color scheme there... I like the faded black look!

tax! good to see you joining in! Darson is the moderator here and can let ya know any specifics about joining but thought I would say hi all the same!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:26 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by taxtp

I may be too late. I've just signed up here, and I happen to have a 1/48 Spitfire 1 and a 1/72 109E on the go. Can I join this group build (my first one), or am I too late ?
Thanks
Tony (taxtp)
Melbourne Australia

Tony first of all Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

to FSM and of course you can join in. What do you want me to put you down for, the Spit or the 109 or both? By the way it's always great to see another fellow Melbournian on the forum.

Cheers
Darren

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:48 AM

Karl Your Hurricane is looking great. Glad you got it sorted out after the decalling drama.

-Daniel

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:46 AM

I was talking to one of the LHS guys here and he was saying that I'm the third guy he knows who built the hasegawa kit, tried using the Kit decals and had problems with them. Oh well, I think I have aplan so we'll see how it works out in a few days. Sigh [sigh]

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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taxtp

Member since
April 2005
From: Australia

Posted by taxtp on Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:21 PM

Hi Darren,
Put me down for both, and a 'probable' on a Tamiya 1/48 109E as well. I'd forgotton I had it in the stash.
Thanks for making me welcome, now I'll have to get on with it !
Cheers
Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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osher

Member since
April 2003
From: Edgware, London

Posted by osher on Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:27 PM

Define frustration: attaching PE levers to a 1/72 cockpit sidewall. Breathe in the wrong direction, and just breath will blow those things away... However, they are now attached to bf-110, as are the foot pedals. The tub is also now attached to one fuselage side. Just need a couple more bits or so, and the fuselage can be closed up. As the mainplanes and nancelles are already completed, I should be ready for attaching the canopy, then painting. I can't believe that after 2 months or so, I'm finally almost at that stage! As I'll paint the Spit at the same time, I should have some pictures ready soon. The PE does really enhance the cockpit though (1/72 Fujimi bf-110 C), so maybe worth the agro in the long-run!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:23 PM

Osher - after assembling the Fujimi 1/48 Bf110 cockpit at the first of the GB I decided it would actually look wonderful with some PE or some resin... I might get another one and have another go at a good looking cockpit on it... the kit itself looked like it would go together rather smoothly!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:29 PM

Osher, looking forward to seeing the build. Sounds great.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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osher

Member since
April 2003
From: Edgware, London

Posted by osher on Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:06 PM

Thanks for the encouragement guys! The Fujimi 1/72 bf-110 does go together smoothly, and despite being an old kit (the decals are yellowed, and not that comprehensive) has not real flaws so far, and no need for filler. There is though little in the way of details, and the ariels are a bit thick. Adding an aftermarket set really brings this kit alive. It does have moulded in belts for the pilot though. Still, the panels lines are nice, and recessed. The Italeri kit on the other hand has better details, but raised panel lines. For reference, the after market kit I used was the Airwaves one, which is now made by Hannants (the shop people) and not by ED models anymore, even though older kits say that they are from that stable.

Having seen wha telse you've produced Tom, I have no hesitation in thinking that if you start on the Fujimi bf-110, it will be something superb! Can you finish it by the end of May though? Now that is a challenge! Seriously, it would be interesting to compare the 1/72 and the 1/48 kits.

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:18 PM

Karl lovely work of your Hurricane, it looks fantastic Thumbs Up [tup]

. I'm really glad you were able to repair the damage done previously. From your photos you can't even see there was any damage.

Osher you must have steadier hands than me, because I have enough trouble with 1/48 PE. I don't know why but I ordered a PE set for my 1/72 Harrier that I'm doing for the RAAF 'What If" GB.

Tom, that 1/48 Fujimi kit sounds like it could be a starter (for me) for the next BoB GB. Do you know anybody who makes decent AM bits for that kit?

Cheers
Darren

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Friday, April 29, 2005 2:34 AM

Guys Thanks for the kind words on the Hurricane. I've learnt alot with this build, mainly about decals, setting solutions, and panel shading!!!

Jay I think the problem I had with the Hasa decals for the Hurri were self inflicted, in that I used both Gunze Mr Mark Setter and Softer(Yes Softer, not softener) solutions. Now I just use the setting solution which is excellent, and leaves the decals looking paionted on, even the thick old Hasa ones!!!! Thumbs Up [tup]

Osher I had the same issues with the PE on my, still unfinished, Do217. It;s small enough in 1/48, let alone 1/72! Looking forward to seeing pics of your progress.

Progress Update

Not a lot really. Sliced the kit canopy to make use of the forward portion, as the vac form one doesn't fit as well. Just need to mask and paint, along with the sliding section.

I'm hoping to have it all done by the end of next week, especially as I have a long weekend coming up.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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