AIRCRAFT - 'It Floats and Flies Group Build' - Feb 1st 2005 to Sept 30 (Gotta finish sometime!) - FineScale Modeler - Essential magazine for scale model builders, model kit reviews, how-to scale modeling, and scale modeling products

cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 3:56 AM

Mike, have you thought of emailing the RAAF Museum? I have used the RNZAF museum staff for similar questions in the past, and they are always willing to help - offering photos and all sorts of material to assist.

Good luck to all ... the flag is up!!!! Smile [:)]

Paul

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Aurora-7

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December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 5:54 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cossack

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Good luck to all ... the flag is up!!!!

Indeed it is! I'll have my first images posted by Sunday night and try to keep it coming weekly, no matter how far I progressed or not, just to keep the flow going here. We've got a lot of variety of floaters here and I can't wait to see how they all turn out!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 6:30 AM

Great idea Paul never though of asking them . I did ask the chaps at the WA museum but they weren't sure of the colour of the code and if it had the top gun turret .They just suggested that I search the web . I found a heap of pics from the AWM..a great help but nothing that confirms it. I just e-mail the RAAF museum we'll see how we go .

And where of and running ...

cheers mike

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 8:34 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rmulhe7108

I'd like to sign up for this one...it'll be my first group build!! I noticed you have a Hasegawa 1/72 Kawanishi H6K5 flying boat 'Mavis' , but not their H8K2 Emily from decades ago. Sign me up for it.

You're on. I suprised no 'Emily's made an appearence. Glad to see it's here now.

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 9:47 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

Anyone beside Monogram box the TBA??? ok my sense of humor is my own.
I havent yet decided what I am gonna build but my birthday is on the 3rd so lookin good, might get something there. Might go the way of a beaver or something we'll see.

A Beaver would be great. We don't have that on the list yet.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 12:46 PM

hiya, folks !
the shrinkwrap on the W29 has been broken & i've gotten a few things done:

-read the instructions & made sure i had all the parts
-cleaned up the wing's sprue attachment points
-cleaned up flash from a few misc. small parts
-washed the parts in warm soapy water 2 clean off any mold release agents
-assembled the engine block halves (w/ prop shaft in between)
-sprayed a couple of mist coats of grey paint onto the fuselage, wing & stabilizers
-painted the engine block, rudder bar/pedals & a couple of other small items black

i didn't start building until after midnite, so it was Feb. 1st... barely...
insomnia isn't always a bad thing, i guess... Wink [;)]

now my first question is this:
does anybody know what color i should paint this thing ?
the instructions only give a Humbrol #, a Matt Grey is the description,
but the box art has the a/c in a blue-ish hue... which looks really good 2 me...
would a lichtblau or hellblau b appropriate ?

thanx in advance,

frosty Smile [:)]

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 12:53 PM

I've dug in, and done a bit of cleaning on the Spruce Goose. It's a pretty simple kit, but those long wings and fat fuselage may mean lotsa sanding on all those seams, so I want them to fit as well as they can to begin with. No detail to worry about sanding off, though, so that's nice! This 1/200 kit comes with no cockpit, but the canopy is pretty big...so I may scratch a rudimentary cockpit just to give it a bit of feeling.

Model Grampa, are you really gonna scratchbuild all 700 seats???

~Brian

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Model Grandpa

Member since
July 2003
From: Keizer, Oregon

Posted by Model Grandpa on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 1:09 PM

LOL...just kidding...nope, not going to build 700 seats, they were never installed in the plane anyway. On the way to work this morning I was trying to dicide if I want to build a cockpit also or just spray the inside black like the instructions say.

Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark

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Awood23

Member since
May 2003
From: Belgium

Posted by Awood23 on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 1:13 PM

Ive started some dry fitting but Im afraid my build is going to go rather slow. Im still waiting for some supplies I ordered to make thier way this side of the pond and I was just informed of a TDY I have to go on on short notice, leaving on the 5th... I doubt Ill get any serious building done by then. As soon as I get going though I start posting pics.
Looking forward to seeing everyone elses builds :)

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 1:31 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Model Grandpa

LOL...just kidding...nope, not going to build 700 seats, they were never installed in the plane anyway. On the way to work this morning I was trying to dicide if I want to build a cockpit also or just spray the inside black like the instructions say.

Whew! Because, those seats would be TINY!!!
I think even just a hint of a cockpit would help the model.

Have you considered any sort of "what if" version? National insignia, some kind of camo? Hmmm...turrets, like a giant PBY? Hmmm....

~Brian

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 2:56 PM

Got all the major parts off the sprues & cleaned up. My kast few builds were Tamiya/Hasegawa kits, so this Sword limited run kit is a shock to the system. Have to clean up & dry fit everything. Oh well, just adds to the fun. Smile [:)]

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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tlivancso

Member since
February 2004
From: Connecticut, East of the River

Posted by tlivancso on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 4:21 PM

It looks like I forgot to mention that my C.R.D.A. Cant. Z "GABBIANO" is the Italeri 1/72 kit.

I have got all the parts washed and drying so far. Hope to start on more tonight.

Cheers
Thom Big Smile [:D]

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Swanny

Member since
February 2003
From: Sandusky Ohio, USA

Posted by Swanny on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 9:49 PM

Jumping right into the S-43 build. I've been looking the kit over for several weeks now planning my attack.

Need to straighten out those control yokes a wee bit.

Swanny's Models

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yukonrob

Member since
January 2005
From: with Rommel in the desert

Posted by yukonrob on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 10:22 PM

I've started as well, and have immediatly run into...opportunities.
This is my first 1/72 plane in a long while, and my first IJN one ever. Anticipating somewhat sparse detail (which turned out to be true), I ordered the detail set for my Serian. Gosh, some of those parts are tiny - they even provide an operating bolt for the rear MG - I swear it is a thin as a human hair. Not sure I can cut it off, yet alone glue it on. So..I've decided to be selective about which brass I trouble with. Any tips for dealing with these little guys to avoid loosing them, especially when a drop of glue is bigger than the thing itself!
A more visable dilema, the instructions sugest RLM grey for the cockpit - this seems too dark and I cannot substaniate with any research. But, they have a restored example so I presume it would be accurate. I've gone ahead and gave it a coat, but I still think it will be too dark. Any suggestions about what the "right" color should be are welcome.

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Model Grandpa

Member since
July 2003
From: Keizer, Oregon

Posted by Model Grandpa on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 12:08 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk
Have you considered any sort of "what if" version? National insignia, some kind of camo? Hmmm...turrets, like a giant PBY? Hmmm....

Now that’s an interesting thought…the Spruce Goose in a Korean War era scheme…hmmm

Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark

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Harrowbeer

Member since
October 2004

Posted by Harrowbeer on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 3:57 AM

I've started onnthe Matchbox 1/72 Supermarine Walrus, main fuselage etc. off the sprues and tidied up. Cockpit totally lacking in detail so have also made a start on scratching myself together a cockpit, will post pics when I have something worth showing you all,

'over and out'

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cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 5:46 AM

OK ... so here we are 2 days in ...

A full wash, and a start on the cockpit ... pictures to come Smile [:)]

By the way, has anyone built the Smer 1/48 kit of the Supermarine Walrus? Always wondered about the quality ...

Paul

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Swanny

Member since
February 2003
From: Sandusky Ohio, USA

Posted by Swanny on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 6:48 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by yukonrob
A more visable dilema, the instructions sugest RLM grey for the cockpit - this seems too dark and I cannot substaniate with any research. But, they have a restored example so I presume it would be accurate. I've gone ahead and gave it a coat, but I still think it will be too dark. Any suggestions about what the "right" color should be are welcome.

I've done this in 1/48 and RLM 66 was the interior color.

Swanny's Models

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 8:36 AM

rmulhe7108,

I’ve got no interior shots of the Mavis but I have several small ones of the Emily, if you’re interested. I plan on using the Emily shots as a reference for the Mavis since they were both Kawanishi aircraft. I’m going to mix my own color for the interior. Looks like a shade of the infamous ‘bamboo green’. I don’t want to obsess too much about the right shade or I’ll never get it done.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 9:19 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

rmulhe7108,

I’ve got no interior shots of the Mavis but I have several small ones of the Emily, if you’re interested. I plan on using the Emily shots as a reference for the Mavis since they were both Kawanishi aircraft. I’m going to mix my own color for the interior. Looks like a shade of the infamous ‘bamboo green’. I don’t want to obsess too much about the right shade or I’ll never get it done.

Thanks, I'll take them! From what I understand about the Mavis is that it had a reclining walkway through the cockpit area between the seats while the Emily did not. Smile [:)]

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rodc

Member since
April 2003
From: Newfoundland, Canada

Posted by rodc on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 1:08 PM

Well, well, well.....after reading some of the recent posts, I guess I am already lagging behind on my CL215. All I have do so far is wash my sprues and let them dry and get the custom decals for it. I will be starting with gusto this evening doing the initial primer to the sprues and probably masking the cockpit since that too will need priming.

I usually prime the sprues with a light mist coat first and then toych it up when I complete the subassemblies. Will start taking a few pictures and uploading for all to see soon.

Cheers,

RODC

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 2:45 PM

Swanny, have you checked the fit of the windscreen on your S-43? Mine looks a little short.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Thursday, February 3, 2005 10:39 AM

Started working on the interior of the Mariner and the gun positions. Dry fitting the fuselage and wings, there will be a lot of filing work needed, also still trying to decide how to "float" her in a dio. I've had many suggestions and I'm still open to more if anyone has any ideas. It will be a large base, approx. 16" x 12" and it needs to be about 1/2 inch deep.

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Swanny

Member since
February 2003
From: Sandusky Ohio, USA

Posted by Swanny on Thursday, February 3, 2005 11:12 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Swanny, have you checked the fit of the windscreen on your S-43? Mine looks a little short.

Regards, Rick

A little short is being kind. This thing is WAY off. I find that if I flex it a little to make the top edge meet I end up with a little gap along both lower sides. I think this is the approach I will take and fill the gap with thick super-glue followed by accelerator to prevent fogging. Since this will all end up being somewhat clear I'll prime it with interior green to cover the inside view and hope for the best. Watch you roof piece also - the fit could be better on it and the tail plane braces do not reach the fuselage dimples where they should sit. Speaking of the tail planes - pay particular attention to the rudder joint - I have some putty filling the front of mine.

Swanny's Models

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 3, 2005 3:39 PM

Thanks Swanny, I thought maybe I got a bad molding. I agree with you on fitting the Windscreen, kinda what I figured as well. You're way ahead of me on your build, but I hope to get more done this weekend. Are you going to put lapbelts on the passenger seats ? I assume they had them, but nobody would be able to see them when it's buttoned up. I'm still debating. Which scheme are you going to do? I haven't decided between the pre-war Yellow wing & the Pearl Harbor scheme.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Swanny

Member since
February 2003
From: Sandusky Ohio, USA

Posted by Swanny on Thursday, February 3, 2005 5:52 PM

I'm not wasting my time on lap belts - you can barely see the seats as is. I had considered doing a Hawaii Airlines island hopper but ended up with the pre-war Marine scheme with the yellow wing. Just spent a couple hours on the landing gear struts - oh boy, those are fun. I have a bad feeling about the fit of the little round windows also. Have you thought about how you're going to do the rigging yet? My progress is accelerated because I'm on vacation right now.

Swanny's Models

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 3, 2005 8:03 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mgbriggs

Thanks jratz , it looks like this one has had it removed so I think I'll build the sunderland with out it and I've found some letter/number decals from great modelweb site , but I can't tell weather the decals are gray or red in the photo , after seeing several colour pics of other sunderlands and there codes are painted dull red . So I think that I'll do this sunderland decals in the dull red as well .

cheers mike

Mike, not to flag a dead horse, but Feb 2005 issue of Scale Aircraft Modelling has color profile of sister-ship, RB-C ML828. Looks just like your pic, MK.III w/no turret. Color is Extra Dark Sea Grey over White, same as RB-E. The sqdn codes are Light Sea Grey.

This is apparently a late war scheme.

John

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 3, 2005 8:39 PM

Swanny, I'm not far enough along to worry about the rigging, but I think the side windows in mine are gonna be Krystal Klear Smile [:)]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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nicodemus

Member since
May 2003
From: St.Louis, Missouri

Posted by nicodemus on Thursday, February 3, 2005 9:01 PM

Sizing things up,

Looking forward to getting the Clipper underway. I taped it up a little to get an idea of the dimensions and such. I think it will come together nicely. This kit is a little dated and borrowed (see inside wing pic). Seems to have been around a little longer than me Wink [;)]

. Thanks for letting me join the build, and I'll keep everyone posted.
Thanks Aurora-7! Big Smile [:D]