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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:32 AM

Hey Frosty, that's looking very good! Looks like you had some serious fun doing the inside there - well done! Thumbs Up [tup]

Good for you for even progressing - this time of year, esp this year with all goings on, I never get any building done! Plus the weather's sooo nice for cycling!

Martiangundambuilder: we're alive and kicking! Join in - as Frosty said, we just sort of continued a very old thread. And we just update as we go, nothing with deadlines, etc...

Happy 2006 to you all!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 6, 2006 1:26 PM

well, the coat of paint i had on came out pretty smooth & shiny...

all except 4 one door panel which had a tiny bit of orange peel.

i hit it w/ another coat of paint, & before u know it, the whole body

was orange peeling... Banged Head [banghead]

now i know what they mean when

they say 'better' is the enemy of 'best'... so, the carbody took a nice

bath in 91% alcohol & it has been stripped down 2 the bare plastic

so i can start all over... (sigh...) of course, now it's too cold 2 spray paint

outside, so i'm not sure when i'll b able 2 get going on the body again.

well, now i can look at the chassis awhile longer before i have 2 enclose

it, lol !

frosty

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nicholma

Member since
September 2003
From: New Zealand

Posted by nicholma on Saturday, January 7, 2006 5:42 AM

Sorry guys I've been unable to post because for some reason my login got screwed but the helpful FSM IT people sorted it.

Yep I know what you mean Frostygirl and been there!! In such cases I generally stop immediately and try to polish it out when dry. Often this works and with a rally/race car a decal may also come to one's assistance to disguish the remanents. Otherwise its as you say strip down and re-spray - frustration.

I can't advise of any progress unless you'd like a progress report on the house painting which is now about 2 weeks behind schedule and my summer holidays finish next week. And the 1:1 rally car is now back in its road trim for the wife to use as her summer runabout but I do have a hill climb next weekend to keep the cobwebs at bay!

Anyone got the new Haseqawa Datsun 240z Safari kit?

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"

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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Monday, January 9, 2006 12:38 AM

Frosty, sorry to hear about the orange peel. Agree with Mark, the quickest way is "elbow grease", polish and patience... We've all had it, I currently ran into it on my Duc build - the weirdest thing being that I had it numerous times, made no diffs what I tried on one (end of) TS49 tin. The moment I switched tins, it sprayed like I expected. Question [?]

Mark, good luck on the hill climb! House painting... YUCK! I positively hate it! Fortunately my wife decided our baby room does not need painting dor the new arrival - just this, that and the other thing to be added to the room! Very much part of the fun.

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shaun68

Member since
October 2005
From: Brisbane, Australia

Posted by shaun68 on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:13 AM

Hey Mark. I finally saw one of those Datto's the other day. If it's anywhere near as good as the 1/12, it surely has to get a start. Sigh [sigh]

Just when I thought I was on top of my rally car collection too. Evil [}:)]

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MartianGundamModeler

Member since
November 2003
From: Tennessee

Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:57 AM

I haven't seen that new 240 Z kit but I'll keep an eye out for it.I am into the stock to baja conversion type cars. And Frosty i have to paint out side too so I know what you mean about weather limitations. How do you polich out the orange peel. I tried it with my dremil and a polishing attachment about two weeks a go on a rally Nova I am building and screwed up royally!

"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html

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nicholma

Member since
September 2003
From: New Zealand

Posted by nicholma on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:44 PM

MartianGundamModeler wrote:
How do you polich out the orange peel. I tried it with my dremil and a polishing attachment about two weeks a go on a rally Nova I am building and screwed up royally!

Carefully by hand using your normal polish. I always use the Tamiya polish and do a section at a time to see how its going.

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"

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nicholma

Member since
September 2003
From: New Zealand

Posted by nicholma on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:50 PM

I've got the Tamiya 1/12th 1971 Datsun Safari winner partially built - its a fabulous kit - but hopefully someone will do an aftermarket set of decals for Mehta's 1973 Safari winner which is what I'd prefer for the Haseqawa.

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"

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shaun68

Member since
October 2005
From: Brisbane, Australia

Posted by shaun68 on Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:36 AM

No offence, but the dude represented in the kit decals means diddly to me. Shekhar rocks. Safari legend.

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MartianGundamModeler

Member since
November 2003
From: Tennessee

Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:20 AM

What did Mehta drive in '73? Where can I find some good pics of the safari cars and desert rally cars?

I find this a very unique vehicle. It finished 5th place.

http://juwra.com/images/kuvitus/539_horsey.jpg

This is what i love about rally vehicles they can come in all shapes.lol

"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html

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shaun68

Member since
October 2005
From: Brisbane, Australia

Posted by shaun68 on Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:14 PM

MartianGundamModeler wrote:

What did Mehta drive in '73? Where can I find some good pics of the safari cars and desert rally cars?

I find this a very unique vehicle. It finished 5th place.

http://juwra.com/images/kuvitus/539_horsey.jpg

This is what i love about rally vehicles they can come in all shapes.lol

Go to juwra.com & follow the links. You can find out every bit of info for every event from '73 on. Shekhar Mehta won his 1st rally on the '73 Safari (240Z) & then went & won it 4 more times either side of 1980 - all in Datto's/Nissans. Now he is in charge of the World Rally Commission.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 13, 2006 12:05 PM

here's the latest pic from the shop:

this is probably the funniest 'progress' pic i've ever posted, because this is the

corolla wrc body stripped of 3 coats of paint & primer & just about back 2

where it was before i started, nice bare white styrene !

oh well, i do feel better, anyhow.... lol...

frosty Smile [:)]

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MartianGundamModeler

Member since
November 2003
From: Tennessee

Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Friday, January 13, 2006 3:14 PM

Well I finally bought my second AMT 75 Dodge Dart Sport AKA "75 Plymouth Duster" to start my muscle rally car project. I liked the black one I started so much as a hot rod I just couldn't "rally it". So here's the second one in true seventies metallic brown. The color is Duplicolor metallic brown (can't remember the exact name) from a rattle can over Duplicolor grey primer. I placed the body atop my near-complete black 75 Dart chassis just to get an idea of the look. The bumpers will have brush guards and both the bumpers and wheels will be painted white. There will also be an off-center white racing stripe across the top. I was thinking a white interior from an aesthetics standpoint but from a practical standpoint black interior would be more suitable for an off road car with black rubberized or steel plate flooring.
The suspension on these kits sits way too low in the rear and the tires tend to stick too far out. On this car I alleviated this by not completly inserting the the leaf spring peg at the rear and creating a lifting block effect. Its hidden by the lip of the rear end so I won't bother with fabricating a more realistic lifting block or bracket. On my black car I did something different. I'll be using decals from the parts box particulay those from some of my diecast rally cars.

Any exhaust ideas? The kit only includes side pipes. I am not going to use the kit side pipes on this (of course) so I will either be running it straight out the rear or I'll scratch some pipes exiting the side.

"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 13, 2006 3:32 PM

MGM:

that looks good so far !

as 4 exhaust pipes, aluminium tubing works nicely as long as u r not bending it...

if u need 2 bend it 4 whatever reason, u mite want 2 stick a piece of styrene rod

in the tube where the bends will b so the tube doesn't kink @ those points,

otherwise it won't look rite...

HTH,

frosty Smile [:)]

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MartianGundamModeler

Member since
November 2003
From: Tennessee

Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Friday, January 13, 2006 4:26 PM

Thanks Frosty. i have some aluminum rod though have never tried bending it. I always have trouble cutting it though. What is the best way to cut it? I normally score it but I always get rough cuts.So i swithced to wire and styrene rod for my applications. Have seen headers made from solder but that won't help me on hte hollow end of the exhaust.

"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html

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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:58 AM

Some progress are being made on the Subaru. Very slow, though.

Frosty, my seatbelts will end up as *blush* decals. Simple... I was busy building it, when I lost a few parts of the PE set on the mat. They are just gone! Shock [:O]

The small-parts-gobbler must've gotten them in mid-air, not even allowing them to fall. I was rather PO'ed at this. My own mistake, nobody else's.

So, even though there's nothing to show as such, just to let you guys know I'm back at it. Hopefully some results in a few weeks time...

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 3, 2006 6:11 PM

well, i had a few little setbacks w/ the Corolla WRC, after finally recovering from the

orange peel by stripping the paint off the car body, i slipped & fell & sat on the box,

i cracked the roof almost from end 2 end & bent both 'a' pillars out of shape, so i've

made repairs but am thinking about replacing the body... on the plus side, the delay

allowed me 2 notice that i had forgotten 2 install the handbrake in the interior, so i

was able 2 put that where it belonged w/o too much trouble, so i guess this cloud

does have a silver lining, LOL !

in any case, here r the latest pix of the chassis/interior...

& here r some pix of another rally car:

this is a peugeot 205 T16, the kit is by Heller in 1/43, i'm adding a few little extras 2 this one...

hope u enjoy the pix, & have a good weekend, folks !

frosty :)

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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Monday, February 6, 2006 2:31 AM

Ouch! Bad news about the roof, Frosty, thought it's only me capable of doing that kinda stuff... Blush [:I]

But it's looking good, nonetheless. Good luck on fixing it!

1:43... your eyes must be better than mine!

Suby is coming along, will most likely be able to finish it "shortly". Started on the body, lights and other peripherils to be added. Got the most awfull lot of gunk attracted to the clear on the windshields! Removed most with fine sanding and some rubbing compound.

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DanCooper

Member since
March 2004
From: Belgium

Posted by DanCooper on Monday, February 6, 2006 1:30 PM

Hey Frosty, my wife still has a Skyline-body with a bad paintjob, may I ask what you used to remove the paint (I suppose it is lacquer) and the primer ?
We've tried brakefluid and it only worked till a certain degree, although the body had been soacked in it for weeks.

On the bench : Revell's 1/125 RV Calypso

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joelrydh

Member since
November 2005
From: Kalmar, Sweden

Posted by joelrydh on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:48 AM

Hi guys!

I see you're still here and making progress! I think I just might pull out my semi-finished Peugeot now when my nsr bikes are completed.Maybe I'll beback with some progress later on?

best regards

Joel

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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:57 AM

Yes please, Joel. You went through so much effort allready on that one - really looking forward to seeing the rest of it!

OT: I am still amazed at that Lucky Strike bike... Bow [bow]

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 2:44 PM

DanCooper wrote:
Hey Frosty, my wife still has a Skyline-body with a bad paintjob, may I ask what you used to remove the paint (I suppose it is lacquer) and the primer ?
We've tried brakefluid and it only worked till a certain degree, although the body had been soacked in it for weeks.

DanCooper:

the primer & paint were both Tamiya rattlecans, 'synthetic lacquer'...

i used isopropyl alcohol 2 remove the paint & primer, it works great as

long as u use the 91% stuff, & it's not as hazardous/toxic as brake fluid !

just soak the body in it 4 a couple of days...

HTH,

frosty Smile [:)]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 2:54 PM

SeaBee wrote:
Ouch! Bad news about the roof, Frosty, thought it's only me capable of doing that kinda stuff... But it's looking good, nonetheless. Good luck on fixing it!

1:43... your eyes must be better than mine!

Suby is coming along, will most likely be able to finish it "shortly". Started on the body, lights and other peripherils to be added. Got the most awfull lot of gunk attracted to the clear on the windshields! Removed most with fine sanding and some rubbing compound.

hSeaBee:

thanx 4 the words of encouragement, i've resprayed the body w/

tamiya white primer & the roof crack is a lot less noticeable...

isn't it (not very) funny how gloss & clear finishes seem 2 b magnets 4 any

little bit of dust, grit or animal hair that mite b within a mile of ur

work area ? a flat finish can sit uncovered 4 days & stay clean, but in the

moment it takes 2 cover up a futured windshield or freshly painted car body...

auggh !!!! but @ least w/ rally cars, dirt doesn't look out of place...

frosty Smile [:)]

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joelrydh

Member since
November 2005
From: Kalmar, Sweden

Posted by joelrydh on Thursday, February 9, 2006 1:50 AM

SeaBee wrote:
Yes please, Joel. You went through so much effort allready on that one - really looking forward to seeing the rest of it!

OT: I am still amazed at that Lucky Strike bike...

I actually went on priming the wing yesterday...maybe this kit will be finished after all. Would be really nice to have a clean building table once in a while.

Left to do on the pug:
rear wing: paint TS-49, decal up, clear coat, install
windows: decal up, detailing
chassis: weather the underside, install shielding and wheels
interior: harnesses, belts for spare tire, cell phone, right door computer, install seats and dash board
exterior: try to fix the bad window trim painting (wich made me put this build on the shelf in the first place...), paint door handles, install head lights, paint and install rear lights, bonnet fasteners, antenna

a bit, but not much is it? Wouldn't take THAT long to complete.

ahh well, we'll see about it.
until then, tada
/Joel

And SeaBee, as you know the Lucky Strike livery is a real stunner so I also await the moment of installment.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 10, 2006 1:28 PM

while i'm trying 2 decide if i need a new body (4 the Corolla WRC, lol !)

here's some progress on the 1/43 Pug:

scatchbuilt diagonals w/ padding added 2 rollcage

chassis w/ more scratchbuilt parts in foreground

scratchbuilt suspension parts

these parts r pretty small, about 1/2 inch in length

rear suspension part installed

front & rear suspension parts installed

the interior w/ fire suppression system installed... dash decal is a bit off register, but it most likely

will not b noticeable once she's all buttoned up...

hope u enjoy the pix, & have a good weekend !

frosty

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 17, 2006 3:31 PM

ok, i'm still working on the pug 205, so here r some more pix:

i've added some more scratchbuilt details 2 the engine bay & am replacing the stock glazing w/

parts made from acetate packaging material, & she's up on her wheels now...

frosty Smile [:)]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 3, 2006 1:19 PM

here r the latest pix of the pug 205 (heller 1/43 kit):

i added eduard p/e seatbelts/shoulder harnesses & a scratchbuilt handbrake,

& the heatformed front & rear windows have been installed.

bmf has been added behind headlight glazing & over molded-in tail lights,

& i started painting the stoplight red parts of the tail lights ...

haven't had a lot of time 4 modeling l8ly, so i'm happy i can show a little progress on something !

hope u enjoy the pix !

frosty Smile [:)]

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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Monday, March 6, 2006 12:52 AM

Frosty, that's looking real good! Your seatbelts obviously went better than mine (in 1:24!)

I have finished most and yesterday evening decided to just quickly paint the arials before attaching them. To make a long story short... After doing those on one sprue, I picked up the other sprue, which on the way up ensnared the previously put down one, which in turn got a very nice hold on the paint jar... which obviously, in turn commenced to deposit 3/4 of an acrylic SF black bottle onto my desk! Censored [censored]

Did I forget to mention over my Ducati's instructions? Angel [angel]

Operation mop-up, clean-up and trying to get the smell out the room began. Did I do any modelling after that... noooooo!

But all in all, basically finished, just decalling, arials and roofcam.