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Posted by waikong on Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:45 PM
That's because we're cheap & didn't spring for the the fancy resin. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 10:27 AM
Is it too late to join????? I'm a newbie but this would be great start for me.
So If it's not too late i'd like to join please. I'm about to purchase a 1/48 and 1/72 of the MiG 29 UB and will give it marking of the Peruvian AF.
So do I make the 1/48 or the 1/72 for this group build?
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, January 28, 2005 1:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by peruytu

Is it too late to join????? I'm a newbie but this would be great start for me.
So If it's not too late i'd like to join please. I'm about to purchase a 1/48 and 1/72 of the MiG 29 UB and will give it marking of the Peruvian AF.
So do I make the 1/48 or the 1/72 for this group build?


I'm sure you can join. Tankmaster7 is a good guy who'll welcome you gladly. After all, he said it in the beginning:

"Start date: January 10 2005. (You can join in the middle or whenever, though.)"


QUOTE: Originally posted by waikong

Duke, can't wait to see the pics. Interesting you mention putting on the landing gear first before painting. I always paint before putting on the gear, in fear of breaking them, and I usually have to do some touch ups in the wells. Any insight on your preferred method?


Well, I've done it both ways. I've used a liquid mask before to cover the wheel wells and about half the time it's a devil to get it off again. Tape tends to 'bleed' so I always end up having to clean out, or touch up the wells afterwards anyway. I'll mask the wells and paint before mounting the landing gear if I am going to spraypaint the model. (I did that on my Su21 Flagon) If I am going to hand paint it, I'll go ahead and put on the landing gear, paint the model, then mask around the outside of the wells before doing any touchups to the landing gear and wells. Most times, I find this to be better whenever I'm doing a two-tone or more camo pattern. So far, I've never had any landing gear break on me during painting, unless I dropped the model! Black Eye [B)] I'll see what I can do to get some pics up later today.


Come on Tanky! Stop talking to yourself so you can get some work done! You know how talking distracts you! You gotta catch up! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Swedish Mick on Friday, January 28, 2005 4:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by peruytu
So do I make the 1/48 or the 1/72 for this group build?

I'm sure that if you have the possibilities and the time, we would all look forward to seeing you do both! Ain't that right?! Big Smile [:D]
Welcome aboard! Smile [:)]
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Friday, January 28, 2005 6:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by peruytu

Is it too late to join????? I'm a newbie but this would be great start for me.
So If it's not too late i'd like to join please. I'm about to purchase a 1/48 and 1/72 of the MiG 29 UB and will give it marking of the Peruvian AF.
So do I make the 1/48 or the 1/72 for this group build?


Your request to join is denied!!!Wink [;)] Of course not. We're all very glad to have you aboard here. Why don't you take the leap and make both of them? Oh yeah, welcome to the forum!!!
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, January 28, 2005 11:13 PM
Yeah Perutu! So far I'm the only one here building two MiGs for this Build, why not join me in doing two?

As of yesterday, I got the landing gear on both of them and started with the basecoat of paint on the German MiG 23.

Here's the Indian MiG 21sitting on the wheels:



Here it is showing the completed undercarriage:



Here's the MiG 23 showing the completed undercarriage:



And sitting on the wheels:



Here it is sporting the dark green basecoat that I'll be painting the camo pattern over:



Looking forward to seeing more pics of everyone else's projects!
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Posted by waikong on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:37 AM
Peruytu, welcome to the forum & to the GB.

Duke, looking nice.. now you've inspired me to finish this thing up.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:21 AM
Very very nice Duke. Today the plan is to get the grey paint sprayed onto the cockpit. I should be completely finished with the cockpit by next weekend. However, the delays don't end there! I'm using and eduard PE set so that will continue to sloow down my progress.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:06 PM
okay, I got tamiya xf-24 dark sea gray sprayed on to the cokpit. It is now ready for detail painting.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:01 PM
Thanks waikong! Can't wait to see the progress.

Excellent Tankmaster! Here's an idea that may help speed things up. Try buildeing a few sub-assemblies like the wings, or the undercarriage, or something that can be done quick. That way, you'll make some extra progress for when the P/E goes on.,

Just a thought of course..

I love the lok of the resin cockpit in your previous photo, I'll bet it looks awesome in grey!
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Posted by yardbird78 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:20 PM
TM7,
How about adding my name to the list. The gods of ebay just deposited a 1/72 Fujimi Mig-21MF or Fishbed J on my doorstep. It has decals for 2 Iraqi jets during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war, Syrian AF during 1982 Israel war, Afghanistan 1990s and Bangladesh AF, undated. I think I will do it as the Mig 21 that shot down a Tomcat, (Iranian). It is typical braille scale as to very basic cockpit and gear wells, but reasonable detail on the outside. It comes with a centerline fuel tank and two AA-2 Atoll missiles. Darwin Alien [alien]



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Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:23 AM
Darwin, that is a sweet kit! I built it about 10 years ago i the same F-14 killer markings. I found it interesting that they didn't paint any kind of kill marking on the aircraft. I also have the Iranian F-14 as well! Still, that MiG kit was a lot of fun to build. I've been wanting to get another one to make Syrian too, but haven't been able to.

Enjoy that kit! If you want me to post pics of my finished one, let me know.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:23 AM
okay, I'll add you no problem.
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Posted by yardbird78 on Sunday, January 30, 2005 2:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Duke Maddog

If you want me to post pics of my finished one, let me know.

Duke,
I am always eager to see photos of other modelers work. What colors did you use for the cockpit and wheel wells? The instructions are mostly in Japanese so they are somewhat difficult to understand. They show what appears to be a painting instruction such as pointing to the weapons pylon and missile rail. They have what looks kinda like a percentage sign only 4 parts, beside the #s 1,2 & 3, then the color H314, 2nd line has that funny symbol, #4 H338, and line 3 has the symbol, #5 H8. Is that some sort of paint mixing instruction or what? Thanks, Darwin Alien [alien]

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:13 PM
ohh boy. sounds like a code to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:53 PM
Welcome Peruytu! I got quite a few of the Aztec sheets that include the Mig-29's that FAP flys. My fiance is from Peru & has an Uncle(?) in NY.
If it's ok w/ everyone I'd like to change my markings on the Mig-29 that I'm putting together. I got some neat Malaysian AF markings from Victory Productions. My squadron & the Chippies (VFA-195) was down that way in the spring training with them:) - Calvin
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, January 31, 2005 12:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by yardbird78

QUOTE: Originally posted by Duke Maddog

If you want me to post pics of my finished one, let me know.

Duke,
I am always eager to see photos of other modelers work. What colors did you use for the cockpit and wheel wells? The instructions are mostly in Japanese so they are somewhat difficult to understand. They show what appears to be a painting instruction such as pointing to the weapons pylon and missile rail. They have what looks kinda like a percentage sign only 4 parts, beside the #s 1,2 & 3, then the color H314, 2nd line has that funny symbol, #4 H338, and line 3 has the symbol, #5 H8. Is that some sort of paint mixing instruction or what? Thanks, Darwin Alien [alien]



Okay cool. I'll post a pic of the model at the end of this post. As to the colors, here is what I used:

In the cockpit, I used a grey; I believe it was MM dark sea grey. Remember, I built this kit back around the first Gulf War. As to the wheel wells, I had left them unpainted, meaning to get back to them when I learned what color they were supposed to be. The instruction sheet says "Hemp" but I don't know what color that is supposed to be!

Now for the instructions on the sheet:

The H-number, and funky 'percent'-type symbol are painting instructions, but not paint-mixing instructions. Here is how to read them:

The funky % sign followed by the number in a black circle, refers to the version of the kit you are building. Look on the back of the instruction sheet where the painting diagrams are. You'll see in front of each description above the drawing, that same funky 'percent' sign and black number combo. For example:

%1 is the Iraqi Air Force #681 Iranian F-14 Killer during Iran Iraq War.
%3 would be The Syrian Air Force #1487 Combat over the Bekaa Valley.

The H-number is the color to be used, as indicated in the color chart on the bottom of the instruction sheet.

So, in the inset of Step Eight showing the weapons pylons; if you are building Version 1, (%1) Version 2 (%2) or Version 3 (%3) you would paint the weapons pylons H314; which is indicated in the color chart as "Blue FS 35622". Version 4 (%4) would be painted color H338, and Version 5 (%5) would be H8.

Personally, I don't remember what color "Blue FS 35622" really is, but on this model of my F-14 Killer, I painted all the weapons pylons MM Duck Egg Blue, since that was the color I used on the entire underside of the model. I also 'cheated' and put the cannon pack under the fuselage when, according to the instruction sheet, the F-14 Killer didn't carry one. Blush [:I]

Anyway, here is a pic I took and had posted in my Fishbed Thread:



I hope my explanation helped.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, January 31, 2005 6:02 PM
Very nicely done duke!!! how did you achieve the dusty look?Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2005 9:36 PM
I should pick up a Fujimi Mig-21 kit before I leave Japan. They are plentiful & relatively cheap over here! - Calvin
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Posted by Swedish Mick on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 6:43 AM
Hey Tanky! You better put me down for one more MiG!
Since I've entered the Latin-American GB as well, it will be a 1/72 Airfix #03036 MiG-23 Flogger in Cuban colours. I found the blue/olive drab camo interesting, so it will be the one. Tnx!
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 10:37 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

Very nicely done duke!!! how did you achieve the dusty look?Wink [;)]


Lol! That was easy! Just let 'er sit out! Big Smile [:D]

hey, you know how those darned Iraqi deserts are! You can't keep anything clean! Approve [^]
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, February 3, 2005 3:33 PM
Anyway, detail painting on the resin cockpit is almost done. After that I just have o put together a few more PE pieces and then... on to the fuselage!!!!!
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Thursday, February 3, 2005 10:48 PM
Okay I'm back with progress pics of my latest work on these two MiGs for this Build. There are only a couple pics here, as all I did was touch up some details, and apply the camouflage pattern on one of them.

This is my MiG 21. I have the base color on it now; I am toying with the idea of using my airbrush to paint on the dark green 'squigglies'. That will all depend on whether I find my fine tip or not.



The underside of the wings is silver. I got them painted as well, but I forgot to get a pic of them. Also, the blue on the canopy that obscures the pilot is a liquid mask.

While that was drying, I also detailed my MiG 23 for my German Air Force. Here it is sporting it's new camouflage pattern:



I do remember a picture I used to have of this plane looking like this in German markings. I'm almost ready to decal this guy!

Okay, I hope everyone else is making good progress as well. I'm looking forward to seeing more pics from you all.
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Posted by waikong on Friday, February 4, 2005 10:48 AM
Duke, thats one interesting Camo! I'm in the processing of decalling and then the final doodads like landing gear & antennas this weekend.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, February 4, 2005 11:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by waikong

Duke, thats one interesting Camo! I'm in the processing of decalling and then the final doodads like landing gear & antennas this weekend.


Nice! I'm glad someone has been keeping up with me! It seems that you, me, Tanker and Osher seem to be ahead of the pack here. Come on guys! This is a Group Build! Try to keep up with us! (j/k) LOL! Clown [:o)]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

Thanks for the comment waikong; I can't wait to see pics of what you've got going.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 4, 2005 1:37 PM
I'm still waiting for my Mig-29 to arrive. Any day this coming week I hope. And i'll be posting pictures of the progress being made on my FIRST EVER model.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Friday, February 4, 2005 3:04 PM
Well I'm glad all is well. Cockpit will be finished this weekend. I hope to get the fuselage together and put some PE parts on. Maybe I'll have gotten paint on this thing by march...
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, February 5, 2005 11:19 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by peruytu

I'm still waiting for my Mig-29 to arrive. Any day this coming week I hope. And i'll be posting pictures of the progress being made on my FIRST EVER model.



Great! That is awesome. I can't wait to see how it turns out. I know it'll be good!


QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

Well I'm glad all is well. Cockpit will be finished this weekend. I hope to get the fuselage together and put some PE parts on. Maybe I'll have gotten paint on this thing by march...


Lol! Cool! It may take a while, but your work as always worth looking at! Keep plugging along!
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Saturday, February 5, 2005 11:21 AM
why thank you duke... I just finished 2 itsy bitsy PE parts... they almost went up the sput too. LOL.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, February 6, 2005 7:59 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

why thank you duke... I just finished 2 itsy bitsy PE parts... they almost went up the sput too. LOL.


Lol! Awesome! Sounds like you're due to post a Progress Pic! Clown [:o)]
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