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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, February 6, 2005 8:47 AM
LOL. Yeah. I guess you're right. I'll see what I can do about that. The cockpit has changed a good deal since I last posted.
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Posted by osher on Monday, February 7, 2005 6:14 PM
Everyone seems to be rushing forward, and I'm slipping well behind! The builds I've seen look stunning, and a real incentive for me to do a good job.

I've not worked on my MiG for at least a week now, trying to finish my red Komet (which has been put to one side), and my Churchill, which is finished! (see the thread 'first one' in Armor). So, recommenced work on the MiG. I have a nickname for this build, let's just say, it's the same title as a 1979 film with Joan Collins... At present I have a few bits to add to the cockpit, and then comes trying to fit in position. This is easier said than done, with no guides. The cockpit tub might thus be too high or low, but I hope it looks reasonable at the end. Pictures soon!
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, February 7, 2005 6:28 PM
I haven't worked on my mig in a while also. This is because i got a bit sidetracked with my do-17 for the BOB GB. But I'll get some more done today I hope...
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 12:57 PM
Don't feel bad gentlemen! I also had put my two MiGs aside as well, so that I wouldn't get too far ahead of everyone. After all, there are still a few people we haven't even heard from, much less gotten progress pics from. My MiG 23 is ready to be clearcoated for decals, and I'm ready to put the squiggly pattern on my MiG 21. I won't be using the airbrush; I can't find my fine tip. I'm building four models for the Under New Ownership Group Build, and still have two other aircraft, a tank, and two ships to finish building, so it's easy for me to keep to a pace that you guys set.

Osher, take your time and do whatever you need to do to make it look good. You've got the talent, and I know you can do it.

Tanky, I look forward to seeing what you have done!
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 4:49 PM
progress is slow as real life continues to interfere...
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:45 PM
The academy MiG fuselage come in 4 pieces. I have glued the top 2 and the bottom 2 but gluing those haves together is going to be fidgety fidgety fidgety fidgety... well you get the point. also, on the top fuselage halves, the quarters form a nasty step that will have to be eliminated via tedious filling and sanding and loss of panel line detail that will then have to be rescribed making the process extremely annoying. Through in the resin cokpit and this is going to be HELL for the next couple of days of work.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, February 11, 2005 1:14 PM
I feel for you Tanky! Still, I know you can do it. Your models are always a joy to look at because of this attention to detail you have. Keep plugging away.

As for me, I've got my MiG 23 at the point where it is ready to be clearcoated for decals. My MiG 21 just needs touch-ups on the camo pattern before it's ready for a clearcoat, but that will happen today. Then I will pause for a bit to get other projects done and allow others to catch up. After all, I'm in two other Group Builds; one of which I haven't started yet. I may start it, since they moved the start date up. That doesn't include the five other independent projects I'm building too, so I'll still be active.

So, keep plugging along guys! You all are doing awesome!
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Posted by waikong on Friday, February 11, 2005 1:43 PM
Duke, somebody have to be first. So if you are ready, finish it and give use some inspiration. I've got mine 99% done, just need to fit in the attennas, pitot tube, and a last minute scratch build to make the canopy stay open.

Tank, I feel for you, of all the problems one of the ones I hate the most is the 'step' fit issue. Its just a pain to take care of.

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, February 12, 2005 12:14 PM
Waikong, you seem closer to being finished so I shall bow to you and allow you to provide everyone with the inspiraion to complete their projects. Bow [bow]

I can't wait to see your work waikong, this should be awesome! I have my two MiGs waiting until I get some other projects to the clearcoat stage, then I'm going to shoot them all together. Gonna have to refill my Future! I'll post pics of my MiGs when I get the decals on them.

Besides, I haven't seen anything from these guys:

Bones-coa
roadkill_275
lodni_k:
fighterguru
beav
Swedish Mick
Mikeym_us
thyamis
yardbird78
djmodels1999

Just to name a few. I know most people in that list above do outstanding work and have been anxiously awaiting some of their progress pics so I could get ideas; as well as learn from them. Being in a Group Build with such auspicious builders as they are is a humbling experience, and I didn't want to finish too soon so I could feel as though I were building alongside them. I'm in no hurry to claim my badge, I want to feel I've earned it in the company of those great builders above as well as the great builders who've been posting with me! Approve [^]

Keep up the great work guys! See you around the tarmac! Wink [;)]
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Saturday, February 12, 2005 1:34 PM
yeah. I'll glue in the resin cockpit today. And hopefuly fill the gaps with elmers and begin the sanding of the fuselage...
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, February 13, 2005 12:14 AM
Nice Tankmaster! Sounds like you're making good progress.

I have a pic of my Indian MiG 21 that I'll post tomorrow. It shows the tigerstripe camo pattern that I finally finished. Now both my MiGs are ready for clearcoating. Once I get a couple more kits to that point, I'll shoot all 8 of them with Future and then start on the decals once it dries.
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Posted by waikong on Sunday, February 13, 2005 12:20 AM
Wow Mad Duke, you don't even post your badge until you are done. That's really good self contorl here. Well, okay I did finish it this weekend. So here's the result of my combined Foreign Mig/Acrobatic Team GB. A Chinese modified Mig21 (F-7E)








Full build writeup with more pictures at http://waihobbies.wkhc.net/f7eb.html
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Posted by Swedish Mick on Sunday, February 13, 2005 3:50 AM
Nice job! I like the colours.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:08 AM
very well done waikong!! I really like the way you took the pictures.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:02 AM
Sweet bird waikong! That is awesome work! Great colors, and I love the cranked wing on the MiG. You gotta post how you did that with pics if possible!

I decided to break down and post one more pic. This is my MiG 21 'Indian Tiger'. It is ready now for a clearcoat for decaling:



Okay, once I get a couple more of my Armor in the 'Under New Ownership' Group Build to the clearcoat stage, I'll resume work on these two MiGs. I expect that to be done about next week or so.

Enjoy!
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:17 AM
That's very nice. I really like the tiger stripes.
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Posted by osher on Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:37 PM
WOW! There are some stunning bits of work here! Duke, Wai, Tanky, you've all done such excellent work, makes me a little embaressed with mine...

Anyway, here is the score: The cockpit was re-painted, with everything Humbrol 164, except the vinyl (?) areas of the seats, which are satin black (Humbrol 21 I think I used).

The control sticks are quite pathetic, and then one made a very fast journey, as I attempted to get it into place. A new control stick was fashion out of a strut from an Airfix Bristol Bulldog. Actually, that Bulldog has been quite useful in providing replacement parts. Personally, I think the new control stick looks better. Anyway, I drilled holes for the sticks, as the original holes were too small for even the original sticks (hence the stick flick, into an unknown corner of my bedroom).

Size does matter...In this case the bits that fit into the cockpit tub take up too much space (do they actually assemble kits before they make the moulds?). In short (excuse the pun), there is no space between the seat, the stick, the dials, and the next seat. Not even Munchkins could fly one of these! The upshot of all this is that everything is a compromise, and probably not quite right.

I've been moaning (me, moan about this kit? never!) about the cockpit tub pins having no relation to the floor. In the picture you can see the pins 'floating', and not attached to anything. If you did follow the instructions, anyone who flew the aircraft, would be 7' tall, but with no legs, and very weird arms. Anyway, I managed to attach the tub to the sidewall after much trial (and mostly) error.

Of course, it's only now I discovered that there is no blanking plate, so you can see from behind the cockpit to the engine. I suspect that in reality you couldn't see into the engine, so, I need to build a blanking plate, for both ends. I've also got a problem (yep, another), with the glass partion screen, as in fit. That's assuming I can even get the canopy to fit.

What's my view on the re-released KP MiG-15 (Vietnam Special)? Why the heck did I buy two versions?!!! Actually, it's frustrating, because, in places it's an excellent kit, it's just that the fit is awful, there is so much flash you don't know if something is part or flash, and the instructions show something going somewhere, but are approximate than appropriate.

Happy Modelling y'all!

edited to add: I know the cockpit looks rough, but it's going to be cleaned up, sanded, and re-painted. Should look much better soon. The little 'peg' under the cockpit is the underside of the Bristol Bulldog strut. (to the left)

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:09 PM
looking pretty good osher.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, February 13, 2005 8:38 PM
OK, so I got the HUD resin part glued in to my MIG fuselage. I then puttied it in with squadron green thinned down with acetone. This was necessary, as when I sawed/ filed off the kit part, it was quite jagged and I took a nasty chunk out of the plastic. I have recontoured the whole edge, and am now waiting for it to dry so I can sand it.
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Posted by waikong on Monday, February 14, 2005 8:37 AM
Thanks for the comments.

Duke, thats some great stripes there. Hand painted? You give me too much credit for the cranked wings, it comes that way as an option on the kit, this MIG is modified by a chinese manufacture.

Osher, I feel your pain, I had a similar model with the same problem in the cockpit seats. The difference is that you did a good job fixing it. I just closed the top and hope no one will notice!
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, February 14, 2005 9:45 AM
Osher, you have no reason to be ashamed. If anything, you're doing better because of the work you have to put into it. I thyink that cockpit is looking real good! Way to go fixing that up!

waikong, yeah, the stripes are all hand painted on. I wanted to try my airbrush, but couldn't find the fine tip, so I hand painted them. That's cool to know about the cranked wings. I may have to try and get me one of those kits. Awesome job waikong!

Thanks Tanky! Those stripes were a pain to do, but they went on pretty well. I'm happy. I can't wait to see your work on the cockpit that you've done. With all the descriptions, this should look incredible! Post pics my man!
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, February 14, 2005 3:34 PM
I hate to keep you guys hanging like this. I'll try to post[pics as soon as I can.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, February 14, 2005 3:41 PM
OK. I'm sorry but this isn't so much an information post as a toot my own horn post Happy 1000 posts to me!!! Yay!!!!
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:02 PM
Congrats Tanky! I lift my glass in a toast! And to think it most likely happened in your own Group Build!.
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Posted by Swedish Mick on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:32 PM
After some time away from building, I'm back to the work bench.
The latest progress on my MiG-15: Now, the fuselage halves are put together, some filler used at the seams and next is to start sanding before the wings are fitted.
Progress on my MiG-23: Started to sand some parts, weight added to the nose, but ... the carpet monster (OK, one of his wood-living friends then!) has taken the seat Boohoo [BH]!!! I'll give him!!!!! Censored [censored] Have to see what I can do ...
And sorry, but no pictures yet.
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Posted by waikong on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:21 PM
Swedish Mick, what Mig-15 kit are you building? Is it the Tamiya 1/48? I have that kit and was wondering about fit/ease to built, etc... especially with the exposed engine.
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Posted by Swedish Mick on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:17 AM
No, not the Tamiya 1/48. I'm building the old 1/72 Airfix kit #00017. I bought two of these kits (one kit without one lower wing half, but that's OK, I'll use the tail and some other parts for a Super Barrel Project) together with an Airfix MiG-21 #02024 and an Airfix MiG-23 #03036, all 1/72, from a friend on the last IPMS Dalarna (Sweden) meeting I attended, for a bargain of total 50 SEK (=USD 7)! Just couldn't resist it!
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:01 PM
SEK? is that the swedish kroner?
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Posted by Swedish Mick on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:15 PM
Yes, you're absolutely right. Sweden, even though a member of the EU, still uses the Krona as currency. Stubborn as the Brits! Smile [:)] We can't do as everybody else, can we?! Evil [}:)]
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:18 PM
Ahh I see. I've been to Swededn. Very nice country.
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