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                        Battle of Midway Aircraft Group Build

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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Friday, June 17, 2005 7:03 AM
                        Jules - because kids are dumber here! Wink [;)] Actually some big lawyer type in Washington D.C. decided kids weren't responible enough to handle drinking at 18, even though they have been doing it that way here since who knows when... they changed it back in 86 or so... I was 20 in 86 so got to drink for 2 yrs, had to go without a yr then was legal again... it made me dizzy I tell ya!

                        Daniel - it was 96 deg yesterday here... what did you say about beer and cold? Wink [;)] Remember we're beindling building this in MY backyard... ( --edit-- from the typo you can tell I was well into the raw material for the superstructure when I typed that)
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        pingtang
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                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Friday, June 17, 2005 8:19 AM
                        Righto then mate, I'll be over there in a few days with a few cartons of Australia's finest.....see you then.Big Smile [:D]
                        -Daniel
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 17, 2005 6:54 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by darson

                        Jules XXX , I don't think so. My choice would be Crown Larger but that only comes in bottles so we'll have to stick with VB

                        Cheers
                        Darren

                        I hear you Darren my favourite beer is Carona but i'll force down XXXX Gold just so Tom gets the empty cansThumbs Up [tup]
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 19, 2005 3:16 AM

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                        BUMP

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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:35 AM
                        That's right Jules... never use Kremps name in vain... (or she'll hunt you down and thrash you about the head and shoulders)
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Mikeym_us
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                          March 2004
                        • From: Kincheloe Michigan
                        Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:24 AM
                        BTW guys there were no Avengers in VT-8 as a matter of fact the Avenger never appeared until early 43 and the squadrons for each carrier are as followed USS Yorktown VT-5 (Torpedo 5) VF-5 (Fighting 5) for bombing and scouting 5 i think the coding is VB-5/VS-5. USS Enterprise VT-6 (Torpedo 6) VF-6 (Fighting 6) and VB-6/VS-6 ( Bombing 6 and Scouting 6). USS Hornet VT-8 ( the ill fated Torpedo 8) VF-8(Fighting 8) VB-8/VS-8 (Bombing 8/Scouting 8 ). All three Torpedo Squadrons were equipped with the TBD-1 Devastator and suffered approximately 90% casualties.

                        On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

                        The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 19, 2005 3:18 PM
                        Mike - there was a ground based VT-8 as well as VT-8 from the Hornet, residing on Midway, they had 6 Avengers. That kind of threw me at first when you said that, and it took me a moment to remember VT-8 on the island was different from the carrier based one.

                        http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq81-5.htm
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Mikeym_us
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                          March 2004
                        • From: Kincheloe Michigan
                        Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, June 19, 2005 5:37 PM
                        then who is the wise guy who said VT-3 when they were based off of the Saratoga. And if the VT-8 on Midway was a Marine unit why weren't they designated VMT-8? BTW wasn't the Vindicator a Army version of the Dauntless or was it the airframe that closely resembled the HellDiver?

                        On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

                        The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 19, 2005 5:45 PM
                        Mike - the A-24 Banshee was the step sister to the Dauntless, the SB2U was the bird the Dauntless replaced, it looked somewhat like the Helldiver (in a granny sort of fashion Wink [;)]) here is a link to it:

                        http://www.military.cz/usa/air/war/bomber/sb2u/sb2u_en.htm

                        as for the (shoreside) VT-8 not being VMT-8, it's because it was a Navy unit. I'll check into it and see why the identical names for the squadrons, perhaps it was split? I'll get back to ya on that though. Good replies! It's making me have to think through some things I either took for granted or didnt hit me in the first place! (like two VT-8's)
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        mstanley
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                          December 2002
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mstanley on Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:05 PM






                        More here and the pilot's After Action report:

                        http://www.percongrp.com/pelikan/aircraft/f2a3_ms.htm

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                        mstanley
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mstanley on Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:07 PM
                        AM kit built wheels up.








                        More here:

                        http://www.percongrp.com/pelikan/aircraft/sbd-3_ms.htm

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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:43 PM
                        Michael - outstanding builds! I like the weathering you did on both kits.. I am glad you shared those with us, I like the base for the SBD by the way, I always hesitate to put a parked SBD with wide open dive flaps but yours looks right on!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        pingtang
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                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:46 PM
                        Tom and Mike The VT-8 based on Hornet (CV-8) and the land based one on Midway island were the same. The 6 Avengers, having just been delivered from pearl harbour, planned on catching up with Hornet before the battle started. They couldn't make it to Hornet so were diverted to the island instead. Hope that clears things up.

                        mstanley Nice builds mate. I like the Dauntless posed like that. Thanks for sharing.
                        -Daniel
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                        darson
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Melbourne, Australia
                        Posted by darson on Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:45 PM
                        NIce builds Mike Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

                        Is that the Tamiya Buffalo and if so what AM bits did you put in because it looks great.

                        Cheers
                        Darren
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2005 1:30 AM
                        Great looking buildsmstanleyThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

                        OK Fellas i need some help here (not with Kremps) I'm trying to find a set of decals for the next Hellcat i'm gonna build, decals for VF-72 on the USS Princeton, you know the ones with the Cats mouth and eyes on the engine cowl......
                        Any of you guys know where i can get a setQuestion [?]
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                        pingtang
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Monday, June 20, 2005 2:35 AM
                        There is a Hellcat from VF-27 with the sharks mouth on the Aeromaster sheet "Best Seller Hellcats Part II" (sheet 48-600). You can order it straight from the aeromaster site or try squadron or something. Have a look at www.aeromaster.com
                        -Daniel
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2005 4:49 AM
                        Thanks DanielThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] I just ordered the set from Eagle StrikeThumbs Up [tup]
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                        pingtang
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Monday, June 20, 2005 7:29 AM
                        No worries mate.....How bout that Hellcat GB now???
                        -Daniel
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                        mstanley
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mstanley on Monday, June 20, 2005 8:03 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by darson

                        NIce builds Mike Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

                        Is that the Tamiya Buffalo and if so what AM bits did you put in because it looks great.

                        Cheers
                        Darren


                        Not Tamiya. It is the new Special Hobby kit. Beautiful cockpit and engine mount / landing gear details.
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                        Jeeves
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Saratoga Springs, NY
                        Posted by Jeeves on Monday, June 20, 2005 12:02 PM
                        Love both of those builds...especially the pose of the Dauntless....thanks for posting here with us.
                        Mike
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                        Mikeym_us
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Kincheloe Michigan
                        Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, June 20, 2005 2:18 PM
                        yeah nice Dauntless now lets see you do one dive bombing Aoshima's Soryu aircraft carrierBig Smile [:D]. Hmmmm I think I should try to get that Special Hobbies F2A I have the Tamiya one though.

                        On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

                        The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, June 20, 2005 6:29 PM
                        hmmm---- a neat idea for a forced perspective dio. a 1/48 SBD diving on a 1/700 japanese carrier....
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        darson
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Melbourne, Australia
                        Posted by darson on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:03 AM
                        Mike I didn't think that was the Tamiya kit as I'm working on one at the moment and it's interior is, shall we say "rudimentary". The IP is supplied as a decal only and there is no detail on the panel itself for you to drybrush.

                        Cheers
                        Darren
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:09 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by pingtang

                        No worries mate.....How bout that Hellcat GB now???

                        Yeah sure pingy i have an opening for another GB in mid 2007, seriously though if we go with the carrier GB in 06 then i'll be inThumbs Up [tup]
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                        pingtang
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:19 AM
                        You're on mate. I've got the Hellcat GB done in my 2007 diary.......{who am I kidding??? I don't even have a 2005 diary. No planning for me.....things just happen).
                        -Daniel
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:17 AM
                        Yeah mate things just happen and before you know it your in 7 group builds...
                        But i'm definatly going to build the next F6F in the first half of 06.....
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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:06 PM
                        Not me... cutting myself down to 4 I am... hopefully soon will have something for this GB, almost done with the Martlet so will be free soon!!!!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        pingtang
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:48 PM
                        I can't commit to any more GB's either. I'm already involved with 5 of them. With two builds planned for two of those five, I'm pretty much flat out. I haven't even got a kit for one of them, and I still said I'll join anyway.

                        BTW, I actually picked up a Monogram 1/48 TBD-1 kit the other day. So if all goes according to plan (what plan???) I might build it as a second build for this GB.
                        -Daniel
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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:03 PM
                        looking forward to it Daniel! My Zero is about 90% done for this GB but I got sidetracked by the Martlet for the NA GB... (fancy THAT!!! Wink [;)])
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        darson
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Melbourne, Australia
                        Posted by darson on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:20 PM
                        I'm absolutely GB'd out for this year and Tom I know what you mean by being "free" from a build, I'm sort of feeling like that with the Aussie GB at the moment.
                        Next year (you can remind me I that I said this when I break it) I am going to be good and not overcommit myself to GB's I'll never finish.

                        Cheers
                        Darren
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