North African GB "All Subjects" (Start NOW - Finish 31st of Oct)

Hey i have an Idea, It's been mentioned here that the Usual Subjects have shown up for the GB.............
Towards the end of thr year why don't we have a "The Usual Subjects Gb
The idea would be to grab that kit that you've been wanting to do but can't because of other Gb commitments, you fellas must have a kit in the stash that you've been wanting to build, for me it's the Tamiya FW 190 D9 with the Eduard PE set thst i've been sitting on for a year or so...............

j.s. I'll be doing a Dragon Panzer III Ausf H from Rommels early campaigns in Libya

Jules, The Usual Subjects GB sounds like fun.

Regards, Rick

Daniel...

Oh- I will still be doing Torch markings for the -4 ....I do want to try out one of those Atlantic schemes.... Just didn't want to build them all at once!

QUOTE: Originally posted by scer16 I just went to the Semi-LHS and got a Dragon Pz III 1/35th with a 30% discount. (Hobby Works is the shop, everyone in Northern VA should go, week by week they increase the discounts on pretty many models, up to 60%!)

Where in Northern VA is it? Might have to go check it out.

theres 3 of them, the one I went to is in Fairfax
actually the other two are in Maryland, sorry for saying they were in N VA) and theyre in Laurel and Rockville

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison Hey i have an Idea, It's been mentioned here that the Usual Subjects have shown up for the GB............. Towards the end of thr year why don't we have a "The Usual Subjects Gb The idea would be to grab that kit that you've been wanting to do but can't because of other Gb commitments, you fellas must have a kit in the stash that you've been wanting to build, for me it's the Tamiya FW 190 D9 with the Eduard PE set thst i've been sitting on for a year or so...............

Jules-love the idea. I'll need something to hold me over between 30 Sept and the start of the Battle of Britian, Pt.II in Dec/Jan. Happen to have a Revell bf109G that is in need of a reason to be built.....

hi guys,

oh my giddy Aunt!! this is a GB that i have been waiting round for soooooo long!

i would love to join if i may?

i have a ton of stuff on the bench right now, and a ton more queueing impatiently to get on it, but what the...if i'm allowed, i'll join.

i have tam's panzer III, verlinden interior, friul tracks, eduard PE and tristar crew all lined up, but i'm still not sure that's what i'll actually do.

if anyone can find me some good pics of the Pz III L in this conflict, then i might go for it; the scheme in the kit has really boring markings

i also have Italeri's Crusader, Revell's Hs129 (no winter camo guys unless some sneaked past me), Hassy Bf109 E4 Trop, Hassy Bf 109 F, DML's M4A1, Trump's P-40B, Hassy's Desert Hurricane and Tam's Desert Spit (last two i have Malta decals for)....they all want to be built!!!

the armour i'd really like to do would be a British Sherman at El-Alamein, but that requires a lot of aftermarket purchases, and She Who Must Be Obeyed might just pull the plug on that one![:0]

finally, for those of you doing a Matlida, or wanting a decent kit of one, take a look at TIger Models, they have one out real soon i think!

http://www.tigermodels.com/tigermodels.htm

http://www.tigermodels.com/joes_corner.htm

these guys are good - if you email them you get a reply from the boss! can't ask for more than that.

Enjoy the GB...

Nicholas

QUOTE: Originally posted by scer16 theres 3 of them, the one I went to is in Fairfax actually the other two are in Maryland, sorry for saying they were in N VA) and theyre in Laurel and Rockville

Fairfax. That's not to far from Fredericksburg. Is it? Hum, have to find directions.

On their website they have directions
Nicholas, Ill try to find your pz III L

scer16 i have you down as building the dragon Panzer III

Nicholas Welcome aboard mate sounds like you have a few kits to weigh up before making your decision, i'll just put you down as undecided for now

Already have a question about my paint
on Achtungpanzer.com it has this pic of a Pz III Ausf H in Libya during '41. I thought all Afrika Korps tanks were tannish.

Edit (again): My Pz III didnt come with good Afrika Korps decals (one looked right, but where the swastika is supposed to be, it had an X) and none of my kits have them either. Is there someplace online I could buy them? Anyone have extras?
And for the Pz III Ausf L I found this from Achtung Panzer: (just the important parts)
In June of 1942, Ausf L tank entered production. 653 were produced
Vehicles send to North Africa were equipped with additional air filters, modified oil filters different cooling fan reduction ratio and were designated as Ausf L(Tp)
Seems as though they were!
edit: which is actually not what you were asking. I'll try to find pics
I found this pic Said it was captured in Tunisia but I doubt thats the orignal paint, it looks like old off white paint to me

I have a favor to ask. Could someone send me some 1/48 swastikas please? To fit on my bf-109e. Any help would be appreciated.

I'm fresh out of swastikas... the only ones I had were on the sheet I sent Tanky for his Do17... (if you have any left Tanky those are 1/48)

I have seen them in luftwaffe and nazi markint sheets on squadron.. just do a search for luftwaffe markings or nazi or german markings... they have whole sheets of just swastikas!

oh yeah Jules... have a chance to scan that pic of the MArtlet yet? wondering if I need to order tires and such for it.. saw ultracast had a cuffed Hamilton prop for the Wildcat as well!!!

QUOTE: Originally posted by bobbaily QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison Hey i have an Idea, It's been mentioned here that the Usual Subjects have shown up for the GB............. Towards the end of thr year why don't we have a "The Usual Subjects Gb The idea would be to grab that kit that you've been wanting to do but can't because of other Gb commitments, you fellas must have a kit in the stash that you've been wanting to build, for me it's the Tamiya FW 190 D9 with the Eduard PE set thst i've been sitting on for a year or so............... Jules-love the idea. I'll need something to hold me over between 30 Sept and the start of the Battle of Britian, Pt.II in Dec/Jan. Happen to have a Revell bf109G that is in need of a reason to be built.....

Good one BobRick likes the idea to

scer16 Sorry mate i can't help you with that onetruth is i'm not up to speed when it comes to armour

Tanky Now i am up to speed with the wingy thingy's so send me an email with your postal details and i'll send you someBTW i hope you don't mind the Tamiya decals

Nicholas, welcome to the GB mate, it's going to be a good one isn't it. I know exactly you mean about waiting for this GB for ages , ever since this was mooted in the BoB GB I've been hanging out for it.. Agree with you as well on the British Sherman at El-Alamein. I have the DML early Sherman with the cast hull, but there is just way toooo much very expensive AM bits needed to turn out an acceptable Sherman Mk.I. I can only hope that someday someone will bring out a mainstream kit for these early Shermans

Jules, The Usual Subjects GB . Also, what kit are you using for the Bf 109F-4?

Tanky I agree with Daniel, The Trumpeter P-40B would be perfect for this GB.

Cheers
Darren

Tom not yet mate, Kremps has been keeping me busy latelyi'll make sure i do it as soon as i set up the new scanner

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson Jules, The Usual Subjects GB . Also, what kit are you using for the Bf 109F-4? . Cheers Darren

Darren So what kit do you have that you've been wanting to do
Oh BTW I have the Hasegawa 109 G6 that i'm building as the F4, the canopy is a little inacurrate for the F series but i can live with that

Tanky, I have a life time supply of Swastikas. Send me an email with an address & let me know which style ( bordered or borderless) you need & I'll mail em to you.

Regards, Rick

Thanks a lot rick and jules. But one thing I need desperately now is detail shots of the bf-109e-4 cockpit! There's so much detail in this resin set I have, and i have no idea what color it's all supposed to be!!!! Please help... man you guys are great though!

Tanky - bookmark this as it has an extensive set of cockpit pics...

http://gra.midco.net/mlgould/

dont know if yours is in there but hope so!


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I just went back and looked at the site as it has been awhile since I have been there... it's only US stuff but still worth havingin your bookmarks!

Can't believe how quick my 109 is going together. The wings are on, all the nose panels are on, and the tail is ready. I even gave it a coat of primer this morning. A bit of clean up of some seams, and I'll be ready to paint some RLM 78 on the under side. Only problem is, I'll have to wait a while to get some RLM 79. No shops near me sell any paints apart from Tamiya.

Scer, to answer your question about the paint.

All of the vehicles that were sent to North Africa were sent in The panzer gray, german gray, whatever you want to call it. The troops on the field usually mixed up some mud and smeared it all over their vehicle. It was very rare that the tan color you see was actually paint. Most likely becaus they did not have the time or supplies, and the mud mixed in with the backround alot better.
I am not certain which color you should use to airbrush though. I have seen model with Tamiya dark yellow and others with Tamiya Desert yellow, and both look real. So i dont know.

thanks for the invitation - i'm really looking forward to this one, and thanks for the offer of help on those Pz III L pics.

Kind regards,

Nicholas

As you all know , I know next to nothing about armour, but I have heard that the RLM paints were developed to be used in the field, either thinned with petrol or water if need be.

As a result they were often used on AFVs and soft skinned vehicles. Bearing in mind that both sides used captured vehicles, wheeled, tracked and winged, the opportunities for mixed camo and markings are endless.

Anyone fancy a Mk1 Hurricane in RLM 75 with Balkan crosses, or Bedford lorry in Afrika Korp service? Sort of a twist on the 'Under New Ownership GB'.

Karl

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison Darren So what kit do you have that you've been wanting to do

Jules that's a fairly easy one to answer actually, it would either be my Tamiya Me 262 A-1a, or the Hasegawa B-25 J. Both of these kits have been staring at me from my stash for ages but I never seem to get around to building them.

Cheers
Darren

Ahhhh Darren Don't ever mention that 262 again, I have the same Tamiya kit ( with Kettenkraftrad) in my stash and if you mention it again it's gonna start crying out to me to be builtHmmm i also have Tamiya's HE 219 UHU in the stash which is one awesome looking A/C and whats more Verlinden do a resin and pe detail set for it, probably wait until i gain a little more skill before i tackle the bigger jobs

Oh BTW i stuffed up its the USUAL SUSPECTS GB not the Usual Subjects GB

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison Hmmm i also have Tamiya's HE 219 UHU in the stash which is one awesome looking A/C and whats more Verlinden do a resin and pe detail set for it, probably wait until i gain a little more skill before i tackle the bigger jobs

I have the PE and Resin for that kit Jules.
Got em from ebay for 20 bucks

Now all I have to do is get the kit, for the right price of course!!!!

Tossing up whether to try and order the resin and pe for the 129 or not, reckon I might have enough time.

Tanky - here you go ---- it's a Bf109G but it should be close to what you want...

http://aircraftwalkaround.hobbyvista.com/me_109g/me109g~6.jpg