P-47 Thunderbolt GB

Marc, Scott - I have the Waldron punch set and love it, (it is worth the $$ imho) I called there 1 800 # and it is still active.

Thad

wing_nut wrote:

Whenever someone says “punch” I assume they are referring to the Waldron set of punches.  I have heard that they are going out of biz so they may be hard to get in the near future… if they aren’t already. I went to the Micro Mark website and came across this little beauty that looks like it should fit the bill.  Goes down to 5/64” which is a hair over 1/16” I am going to Home Depot today to see if they have this… if not I am ordering one of these.   http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=82524

Cool, let me know if you find anything at Home Depot.  If they don't have one I'll order one of these puppies.

Whenever someone says “punch” I assume they are referring to the Waldron set of punches.  I have heard that they are going out of biz so they may be hard to get in the near future… if they aren’t already. I went to the Micro Mark website and came across this little beauty that looks like it should fit the bill.  Goes down to 5/64” which is a hair over 1/16” I am going to Home Depot today to see if they have this… if not I am ordering one of these.

http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=82524

wing_nut wrote:

Scott, in the event you don’t have a punch for the instrument decals here is a tip to handling these tiny decals.  I nearly lost my mind trying to do this …. no need for you to.    With a sharp blade just score the sides of the dial so you have a bigger piece of paper to handle.  When you wet the decal, the excess, represented by the gray, can be pushed aside so you have just the dial.  Gives you a nice corner to hold on to with some tweezers.

Great!  Thanks for the tip!    I wouldn't mind trying to use a punch.  Is that something you get at the hobby store or something I can pick up at Home Depot? 

KINGTHAD wrote:

Scott, When I start punching out the instruments I always have to remember to clean the desk first because They tend to get wings and fly all over the place and I have to go looking for them Thad

Excellent advice!  I'm working on 4 kits at the same time, so there are parts, tools, paint etc everywhere!  I'll clear off my desktop which is made out of birch, so there will be a lot of contrast if I one of those tiny instruments gets away from me!   

Scott, in the event you don’t have a punch for the instrument decals here is a tip to handling these tiny decals.  I nearly lost my mind trying to do this …. no need for you to. 

With a sharp blade just score the sides of the dial so you have a bigger piece of paper to handle.  When you wet the decal, the excess, represented by the gray, can be pushed aside so you have just the dial.  Gives you a nice corner to hold on to with some tweezers.

Scott, When I start punching out the instruments I always have to remember to clean the desk first because They tend to get wings and fly all over the place and I have to go looking for them

Thad

Progress report:  1/48 Tamiya P-47D Bubbletop

I just did the oil wash in the cockpit, turned out great!  I cleaned the acrylic paint off of the instrument panel so I can respray it again.  I'm giving myself a continued pep talk so I can get the courage up to make an attempt at cutting out those tiny little instruments, and putting them into the gauges.  I know it will look fantastic, but the thought of all that teenie tiny work is a little scary.  Being 6'2" with big hands, relatively speaking the instruments are very miniscule.  I may have to recruit my daughters little hands to help me.  LOL

I agree Marc. Who needs the hassle of teeny PE parts, when you can slip in that beautifull resin set. Nice work.

Jerry

Only a little progress.  I was not happy with the way the PE detail was turnout for the wheel wells so went with the Aries resin wells instead.  I think I am going to go this route as often as possible.  Getting so it’s easier to pick out detail with a brush than trying to get the micro PE pieces bent and glued to look good.

GA.modelmaker wrote:

wellguys i know iam a little late but would like to join this gb. ihave scored a p47 d by academy in 1/48. whaty i need to knoe what is the bets cockpit upgreade set out thier for this p-47d thanks rob.

well guys i know iam a little late but would like to join this gb. ih ave scored a p47 d by academy in 1/48. whaty i need to knoe what is the bets cockpit upgreade set out thier for this p-47d thanks rob.

wellguys i know iam a little late but would like to join this gb. ihave scored a p47 d by academy in 1/48. whaty i need to knoe what is the bets cockpit upgreade set out thier for this p-47d thanks rob.

Thanks for the comments.

The brakes lines are wire and the hoses are solder.  The rosin core marks a perfect center to drill out with a #80 bit and glue the wire into that.  The oleo scissors are part of the Eduard PE set

Joshua, I would try the future trick that Marc mentions. Hopefully, it helps take care of the problem. Who makes the decals you used? are they kit?

Marc, your gear legs look great! I too am very impressed by the double size. Is it wire and wire + insulation or two different sizes. The scissor things (can't remember the name) look really good too. Excellent work!

Leon

Great work on the brake lines Marc. I'm impressed to see that you used two different sizes of wire/solder. The bends are also correct. You've been looking at reference pics again, haven't you?  Outstanding work!!!

Jerry

Joshua, try taking a new #11 blade and tapping lots of little holes,that will never be seen, with the tip.  Use a Q-Tip, or a brush, dipped in Future and work it into the decal.  It will usually fill the space under the decal.  Otherwise look geat.

My slow progress... I am up to going blind trying to put on brake lines.  "brake" is the key word here as they keep breaking...grrrrrr!.

EDIT:

Here is a shot of the LG.

Jerry-Marc , thats the way I have been doing it and the future seems to run on me about half the time. maybe I need to try this Krystal Klear stuff. I have never seen it on the shelve though. I know one problem is my three year old son always wants to help about the time I start doing a I P.

Thad

KINGTHAD wrote:

Marc, I do my IP the same way. My problem is I have not found a good way to apply the future. It sometimes runs outside the bezels. In the end I get it to work but it is a pain. How do you apply your future? (By the way I work in 1/48 scale if it matters.)   Thad

Thad....I don't know how Marc does it, but I apply it with a tooth pick. I cut the point off the pick to make it a flat end. A very tiny flat end, mind you, and dip it in some future and dab it on the bezels. Just a tiny bit of future should stay within the raised round detail of the instrument face. Works great!

Jerry

 Marc, I do my IP the same way. My problem is I have not found a good way to apply the future. It sometimes runs outside the bezels. In the end I get it to work but it is a pain. How do you apply your future? (By the way I work in 1/48 scale if it matters.)

Thad

wing_nut wrote:

Scott, don;t sand off any detail.  Paint it black, dry brush the bezels to highlight and set the decal in the dial.  hwen its dry a drop of Furture or Krystal Klear ( my choice) and you shouildbe good to go.

Ya, like I said, I haven't had a chance to really analyze what I have to work with and compare the instruments to the IP (we didn't have the kids last night, so my wife and I had the house all to ourselves ... needless to say, no modeling work took place last night).   Based on what you just said then the decals should fit inside the bezels, and future will be the lenses.  Thanks Marc!  I really appreciate it! 

wing_nut wrote:

Scott - How did you make out with those decals?  Lets see some IP pics!!

Got home from work last night and there they were in the mailbox!  Thanks man!  I'll have to look them over and come up with my game plan.  I think I'll go the route of cutting out the individual instruments, and making a clear Future lens, but need to double check to see if I need to sand off the raised surfaces of the blank gauges on the panel etc.  Regardless, I should have something to show this weekend. 

Thanks again for giving me those instruments!.  That's one of the things I really love about our modelling community, everyone is so willing to help. 

Johusa - wow that is one shiny black airplane.  Look s good so far.

Scott - How did you make out with those decals?  Lets see some IP pics!!