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Battle of Britain GB 2006 - 1 May to 31 Oct 06

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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:39 AM
Scott, the Spit is looking good, and not far from finished by the look of things.

Dave, as requested pics.....





As you can see I've gone for the mask pretty much everything route! Too many overspray incidents, and it's not as if there is that much tape required on a 1/72 109!

The panel lightening looks a little OTT in the photos, but that is due to the lighting and the Future top coat, which always seems to exagerate differences in shade.

OK brain fade on my part, is it RLM 70 or 71 for the final green.

Hate Tamiya instructions, why cant they just quote RLM colours!

The forward part of the canopy is a complete loss after my over exuberant sanding, must not watch TV while sanding! So I've ordered a new Squadron vac form one, which will hopefully appear before next weekend!

Karl


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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:25 PM

Looks good Scott.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by razordws on Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:16 PM
Looking great Scott.  Keep at it!

Karl, lets see some pics!!

The Italian contribution is getting mired (lierally) in the mud of on going home renovations and work commitments but I hope to have some progress pics soon.  I doubt it will be finished by the end of the month.

Dave

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Posted by espins1 on Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:55 PM
I masked off the sky portions of the Spit and sprayed the Dark Earth.  The lighting in the picture doesn't remotely capture the subtle preshading or the post shading.


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Posted by espins1 on Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:51 AM
Thanks guys, getting ready to spray the dark earth as we speak.  I'm going to try some new techniques, hopefully they'll work out.  I'm going to try lightening the brown a tad after I get the basecoat on to create variations in the color for a more weathered effect.  I hope it works the way I want it to.  Smile [:)]

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Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:12 AM
Scot, nice progress on the Spit.

Like everyone else, I've always gone the lightest colour first route, which is where my Emil is at the moment.

Tidied up all the little defects earlier in the week, and spent this afternoon re-applying the RLM65 to pretty much the entire airframe.

I've also lightented the centre of each panel to start the weathering process.

I'll post some pics tomorrow, probably after the RLM02 goes on.

I'm going for Galland's machine, mainly because it's the simplest camo scheme in the box, and I can therefore finish it by next week.

Karl



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Posted by razordws on Friday, October 20, 2006 11:06 PM
Looks great Scott! Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, October 20, 2006 9:34 PM

Looking good Scott.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, October 20, 2006 9:20 PM
Hey gents, I just sprayed the underside of my 1/48 Tamiya Spitfire Mk. 1. I went for a subtle pre-shade on this one, and plan on weathering it up pretty good if time allows. The Dark Earth goes on tomorrow.

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Friday, October 20, 2006 4:10 PM
GOTT IM HIMMEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom, you've been a long time gone.

We've missed ya.

On the other hand, I'm glad to hear im not the only one having trouble building... Evil [}:)]
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Posted by espins1 on Friday, October 20, 2006 9:58 AM

I found where I got that idea from.  It's in Osprey's "Modeling the Messerschmitt Bf109 B/C/D/E."  There was a write up on building an E and they painted the gray and green camo first so that they could then mask it and paint the sides lichtblau.  On that particular scheme the blue goes pretty high on the fuselage so it allowed them to have a nice, clean straight edge between the green/gray camo and the light blue.

I did my preshading last night.  Camo work begins tonight.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:45 PM

Either way works, but I always paint the lighter colors first, which is almost always the bottom.  Some night fighter exceptions, & there I paint the bottom black last.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:24 PM

 tho9900 wrote:
Scott - I am also a follower of the bottom color then mask and do the camo for the top.  After ALL that masking for that disruptive pattern, Sky wouldn't look too good misted over it...  But it would be interesting to see how it works for you if you try it... who knows maybe WE had the wrong idea!!!

Normally I do the same as you, bottom first, then upper.  But here is what intrigues me about doing it in reverse.  Spray the upper brown, piece of cake all one solid color, no masking (other than cockpit).  Mask the camo pattern on the upper parts and spray the green.  Again, piece of cake although the masking will take some time.  Then, mask all the camo'd parts and one quick spray for the underside and I'm done.  In terms of masking it might be easier I would think, unless my logic is flawed.  I'm going to try to find that build I got the idea from and review that again.

Anyone see any issues with trying that?  I know one of you mentioned the posibility of overspray on all the nicely camo'd stuff, but if I just take my Tamiya tape, mask the edge between the upper camo and the lower, then us the super wide tape I have to mask the wings, sides and top, then there shouldn't be any risk.. in theory. 

I suppose either way is the same situation.  Going to get started on the camo in about an hour.  Smile [:)]

 

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Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:10 PM
Scott - I am also a follower of the bottom color then mask and do the camo for the top.  After ALL that masking for that disruptive pattern, Sky wouldn't look too good misted over it...  But it would be interesting to see how it works for you if you try it... who knows maybe WE had the wrong idea!!!
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Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:08 PM
 wing_nut wrote:

 I think about 3 1/2 years ago when I had my PE…Pulmonary Embolism… not Photo Etch ;o)… nearly bought the farm.  I would have disappeared from here too. 

Marc - wow!!  yeah I know what a PE is, I was a Respiratory Therapist in a past life... we're very lucky to have you modeling with us!!!  Those things are quick and can be very deadly!!!

ALL:  Thanks for your worm... er... warm words... yeah maybe this is a good sign, I'll get back into modeling in reverse... after my almost 20 yr hiatus I started building, then bumped into this place while researching an aircraft... maybe I'll start back here and that will get me modeling again!!!  Good to see all of you, I haven't had time to go back and look at all your builds yet.  I have the 80-90% complete He-111 in a cabinet protecting it from the dust and if I can, I'll get pics even though I haven't finished it yet... my "almost" finished offering for the build...

Take care and thanks for being understanding!!!

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:38 PM
either way works. it's just a matter of personal preference. I personally like to spray the bottom first, so i dont have to worry about overspray onto the complicated topside camo.
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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:25 PM

Here's a question for those of you with multi-colored camo experience.  I remember seing a build write up recently where the guy painted the green and brown upper surfaces first, then masked and sprayed the light gray underside last.  I know the conventional wisdom is to start with the light colors, and work your way to the dark, but there seems to be some wisdom to this approach.  I can see the obvious benefit of only worrying about the camo masking on the upper surfaces, overspray on the underside be damned, then doing a clean mask all the way around to then spray the underside. 

Any thoughts on this?

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:58 PM

Looks like a nice clean build Scott.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:25 AM

Hey guys, I know it's not much to look at yet but the Spitfire has been primered!  Tonight I do the preshading, and tomorrow begins the camo. 

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Posted by superbear on Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:16 AM

Hi Tom I'm glad to hear all is well.  It does seem like we've all been hit by the modeling slump to various degrees, just as long as your doing ok thats the main thing the urge to build will return ...eventualy.

 

Cheers

Bear 

Marc
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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:47 AM

Hey Tom... Just as long as you are OK.  Good to see you again.  Sometimes when people just kind of disappear and you never know why, I think about 3 1/2 years ago when I had my PE…Pulmonary Embolism… not Photo Etch ;o)… nearly bought the farm.  I would have disappeared from here too.  If it is just a slump, that’s no biggie, you’ll get over it.  And as others have said, I know what you mean.  I have had a couple that lasted 14 and 20 years.

Marc  

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Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:04 AM

Tom, good to hear from you!Smile [:)]

Know the feeling, I've switched to 1/72 fighters, just can't face anything bigger!

If you can't face modelling, I'm sure you can still face yakking.

Karl

 

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:22 AM
Tom-good to hear from you.  Hopefully the mojo will return soon.  Even so, drop in and share your perspective on things.

Bob

 

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Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:00 AM

Tom- It seems to have been that type of year for most of us.

I finished the 109 barely, and really was in a slump by the end of her.

Now that I've turned my focus from doing ktis I like and for GB's to making an Airfix Concorde for my lovely missus, I'm getting a little more 'drive' back.

Between that and putting the new stereo in my car Im hoping to get my ying back with the yang.

Well, thats the plan anyways.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:02 PM

Sean,  Thanks Guy.

Tom,   Good hearing from you.  We all go through slumps now & then.  Back in the mid 80's I didn't build anything for about 2 years, but eventually the urge will return.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:24 PM
Good to hear from you Tom.  I know how you feel.  If a build takes much longer than two months I lose interest and have to put it away for awhile before I can look at it again.  I try to get a good mix of quick and dirty builds along with longer more complex builds.  There has been more of the latter lately and I'm anxious for one of those Academy kits myself.

Dave

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:20 PM

hey yall!!!  just popped in for a bit... sorry for the long absence but I got into a fit of "low down deep, I don't want to model anymore blues"

One day I woke up and just had lost all interest in it.  A lot has been going on at work and home so decided I'd hold off on building for awhile... well that turned into longer and longer... so finally I decided putting all my stuff up, staying off here for a bit, and getting things together were called for.

Not sure I'm ready to model again but I'll try to pop in here a bit more.

I think what killed me was the super PE set for the B-25 I was building for the Memorial day GB... it was 110+ pieces and all interior.  It was driving me fits especially when I test fitted the fuselage and realized I could not see a single one of them!!!!  I am contemplating building one of my simple 30 piece little Academy 1/72 kits to get me in the mood again...

 

Anyway thought I'd pop in and let yall know what was going on!!!

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Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:20 AM
Nice build Rick
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:22 PM

Thanks Karl.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:23 AM

Rick, great looking build.

Progress Update

Applied the RLM 65 to the Tamiya Emil on Sunday.

Can't believe how well this little kit goes together.

Still it didn't stop me cleaning too much off the base of the windscreen, so now I have to shim it with plastic strip.Dunce [D)]

The kit has yet to be produced that I can't cock up some how!

Karl

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