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South Pacific Group Build 7 August 2006 to 7 August 2007

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Posted by JerrynFrog on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:50 AM
Joe,

Actually, I was hoping to do the -5 version because the decals are included in the kit. Mine is the early Academy release with markings for only the one airplane, tho the kit will build either version.

The -5 would have been on the 1943 USS Hornet (CV-12) http://www.uss-hornet.org/history/index.html due to the timeframe involved.

If the -5 is not a good choice for your build, I guess I would order the Academy P-40E or M,N which do have Aussie markings that would fit the guidelines for certain.....or a Special Hobby Vultee Vengeance that was in New Guinea.

Last night I was looking at those tiny PE pieces and feeling some intimidation.....*smile*

My plan was to do only one plane, unless I finished quickly enough. I intend to behave myself and not start till 12:01 AM on Aug 7, will have to remember to set my alarm tho.....*smile*

This GB is really gonna be fun!

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Posted by JoeRugby on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:37 PM

Jerry,

Looks like you found the documentation on the -5 model being involved.  I always thought the -5 did not enter service until '44.  Well, there is another testimony to why these GB's are great!

On the PE and resin stuff I am right there with you...I have been an out of the box guy for quite some time.  I just received the full Aires detail set for the Academy P47 Razorback...all I can say is good thing this build is for one year!

This is going to be a good one!

 

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Posted by JerrynFrog on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:37 PM
Joe,

You are correct about the -5 entering service in 1944. I think in trying to be brief, I have caused some confusion.

The plastic-models.com website listed the decals for the '35' plane as being a -5 and on the USS Hornet. I had to assume they meant the USS Hornet that was commissioned in 1943 and that the ugraded planes were added sometime after they went into production (1944). From the discussion on the later USS Hornet at the web site in my previous post, I thought that the plane would be fine for your build. I could easily be wrong here.

If the plane is simply too late a time frame, I can easily order a P-40 with the correct decals and save the -5 for another build, or just do on my own. Is no biggie to me.
What do you think??

Your P-47 will be great...what a learning experience we have ahead of us with the aftermarket goodies!!

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Posted by JoeRugby on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:59 PM

Jerry,

The link you initally showed would not open for me.  However, I did run some of my sources and it looks like the -3 is actually correct.  But then again there is just so much out there! 

The Academy kit should have the option to cut out the panels for the small windows and US Carrier aircraft, with limited exceptions (VF27 Catmouths) were fairly standard in thier markings.  Tri-Coulor camo with white undersides. 

In fact I think it was very late in 43 or early 44 that they began the geometric patterns on the tails to identifiy air group or squadrons.  So, decals may not be an issue.  I have some that may work in my spares box if you are interested, no charge at all.

I opened the Aires detail set...HOLY FREAKIN WOW BATMAN !  57 total pieces, most resin and the rest photoetch.  If all goes well I will be able to represent the P&W wind machine as well as gear bays and the port side weapons bay.  Problem is that this will be my last model...at 1/72 scale I will go blind with all of the smal parts LOL,

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:26 PM

 espins1 wrote:
My decals are here!  My decals are here!!!!  Woo hoo!!!! 

My decals finally arrived for my P-38F, the Flying Dutchman!  Big Smile [:D]  Big Smile [:D]  Man, makes me feel like a little kid that has just gotten a new toy!  Wink [;)]

Scott-I hate to bug you, but are these planes in olive drab or bare metal?  And would it be ok with you if I built the same plane?  Or are there other olive drab options for a P-38 E/F/G that fit this theater?  Aeromaster has a couple of options, but some of the nose art is a little less than family friendly.....

Thanks

 

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:56 PM

The one I'm doing is Olive Drab on top, neutral gray on the bottom.  I had a tough time even finding a set for an F model in the South Pacific, so I was very happy to find markings for a P-38F in Guadalcanal, "The Flying Dutchman".  Feel free to do the exact same kit, markings etc. amigo.  Smile [:)]

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:19 PM
 bobbaily wrote:

Scott-I hate to bug you, but are these planes in olive drab or bare metal?  And would it be ok with you if I built the same plane?  Or are there other olive drab options for a P-38 E/F/G that fit this theater?  Aeromaster has a couple of options, but some of the nose art is a little less than family friendly.....

Thanks



I sent you an e-mail with a review of the decals I got, along with a scan of the placement sheet and the decals so you could look them over.  Smile [:)]  Let me know if the e-mail didn't go through.

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, April 28, 2006 4:57 AM
Scott-got the e-mail.  Thanks for the info.  Always good to have options.

Bob

 

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, April 28, 2006 10:57 AM

 bobbaily wrote:
Scott-got the e-mail.  Thanks for the info.  Always good to have options.

You bet Bob, that's what makes the group builds so great!  Smile [:)]

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Posted by JerrynFrog on Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:38 AM
Hiya Joe,

About the link not working, I should have mentioned that I was posting from home on my old Mac, and links and photos are not possible, so you must copy/paste the URL into a new window.

Thanks so much for the offer of piecing together some decals for me to do a -3. I've been assessing the matter and am going to go with my original plan to do a P-40 in an Aussie scheme. A LHS is supposed to have both the E and M,N kits from Academy in stock next week and I plan to get one of each. Both kits provide decals for suitable Aussie planes, and others. I have some older Revell and Monogram kits P-40 E and N that I hope to be able to use the extra decals on at some later time.

*Hands Joe some BIG magnifiers*.......These should help for seeing those little bitty PE pieces.....hehehehe

I have fears of my carpet in my workroom eating most of the PE pieces for that F6F. I think I may shelve that kit for awhile and gain a little more airplane building experience.....then do it on my own, or some other GB effort...time will tell.

Jerry

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Posted by JoeRugby on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 9:34 PM

Hey Jerry I just realized that we have the same Academy Hellcat kit.  Over on the Carrier Aircraft build I did the Italeri and someone asked what I thought would be the best kit.

I think you may have it.  The Academy v. the Italeri is a much better kit on detail and engineering, decals are sos so.  The Hasegawa I built ten years ago, well that was 10 years ago, I can't remember...You got a great deal on the kit and AM stuff!

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Posted by JerrynFrog on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 3:39 PM

Joe,

I took a quick trip thru the Carrier Aircraft GB and your Hellcat looks great.

I visited the LHS up the highway on Sunday and picked up both Academy P-40's E and M/N.  Much to my surprise and delight, the E kit had decals for the "Four Flags" Aussie plane based in New Guinea and that will be my selection for your build. I ran across the plane in the Squadron/Signal P-40 in Action book and really liked it. Hopefully the decals are of usable quality as there seems to be quite a range of opinion on Academy decals.

Now to finish off some projects in my hobby room.........a 4 Star 40 R/C plane (in garage actually), a Guillows P-40 ..balsa/rubber band power, an old Mainline Models antique Milwaukee Road boxcar, and a Mississippi Central Boxcar.........*smile*...I do have hobbies in addition to plastic airplanes.....hehehehe

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Posted by PanzerWulff on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 7:09 PM
Joe it looks like the P-38 is out of the picture I was rummaging through some stuff i had in the attic and found one of my 2 previously believed sold in a yardsale (long story) 1/72 PV-1 Venturas by Minicraft this one is the pacific "Gunship"version so I will be doing 2 gunships the New Guinea B-25 and the VenturaWink [;)]
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Posted by JoeRugby on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:55 AM

Thanks Jerry...the P40E was at Milne Bay early in the war, they really stopped the Japanese butt cold there...

 

Wulff...Ventura would be cool, I have the Minicraft kit as well, loads of AM opportunities with that kit!.

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:11 PM
I have a couple questions: first, is this build compatibl with other ones, and second, is there a badge available? If it's compatible, I might enter my tamiya 1/48 F4U, and if not, it'll be a monogram P-40B.

-Josh

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Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by JoeRugby on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:41 PM

Hey Josh,

 

Since there is an enormous amount of great GB's going on I have no problem with combining.  No Badge as of yet, I am terrible at them feel free to take a crack if you want.

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:31 PM

Joe - if I can do it in another groupbuild simultaneously I would like to do a B-25 of 13th USAAF, 42nd Bomb Group (ok I'll probably mess up the decals because I'll have to do them myself)  I finally found what my great uncle flew in and where so it will be a kind of tribute to him... I'm also doing it in the Memorial Day GB...

It'll be the AccMin B-25 (not sure which version yet) with interior PE and custom decals.

 

 

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Posted by JoeRugby on Sunday, May 14, 2006 10:26 PM

Hey Guys!

No problem on combining them. Too many great group builds to go around! 

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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 15, 2006 6:49 PM
thanks Joe!!!
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Posted by oleander13 on Monday, May 15, 2006 8:17 PM

I'd like to get in on this Joe.

 

I'd like to do a F4F-4 Wildcat if possible.

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Posted by JoeRugby on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:54 AM
list has been updated
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:11 PM

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That was my impression of me falling down the stairs... ::curtsy and a bow::

I think I have the unit my uncle flew in now (squadron)  I am sending off for microfilm of the crew rosters etc.. for the 75th Squadron, 42nd Bomb Group soon so I will know.. I'll still do a generic 42nd BG B-25 for this I think because it's the government... I'd be waiting 6 months for a "It's coming soon" postcard I think...

 

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Posted by JoeRugby on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:05 AM
Cool, very cool to have a "personal" connection to a build.
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:10 PM

Joe - yeah I have him tracked down to what Bomb Group, his job, dates in theater and a lot of the awards he recieved.  I want to research further to see which squadron, but don't hope to have a specificplane, as in the Pacific they rarely flew on the same plane much, in fact flight crew members varied from mission to mission as some wanted to get more missions in to get home early.  They would come back from one mission to 3 hours sleep and be flying another. 

I've been running down some history on him for many years now and suddenly in the space of about 72 hours this month one hint would lead me to another until I had enough to know his was not easy service... in fact the ground support for one squadron was being ferried to the beach at Guadalcanal as the U.S Marines were still on the beach fighting inch by inch inland.. They were told to hold off for 24 hours.. they were being shelled by Japanese in the hills as they were building the runways...

I posted a little bio of him in the Memorial Day GB...

A little run down of the 42nd BG service:

Stations Flown From:   Fiji Is. (April '43 - June '43)
  Guadalcanal (June '43 - Oct '43)
    Russell Is (Oct '43 - Jan '44)
    Sterling, Solomon Is (Jan '44 - Aug '44)
    Hollandia (Aug '44 - Sept '44)
    Sansapor, New Guinea (Sept '44 - Feb '45)
    Morotai (Feb '45 - March '45)
    Puerto Princesa, Palawan (March '45 - end WWII)
     
Campaigns Flown in:   Antisubmarine, American Theater
  China Defensive
New Guinea
Northern Solomons
Bismarck Archipelago
Western Pacific
Leyte
    Luzon
    Southern Philippines
    China Offensive
     

You can read a little about the individual islands here:

http://www.web-birds.com/13th/42/42nd.htm

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Posted by oleander13 on Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:41 PM

Is there going to be a badge for this one??

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Posted by JoeRugby on Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:40 PM
I am about as good at badges as politicians are at being honest....feel free to take a crack if you want.
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Posted by Dave23 on Friday, May 26, 2006 5:08 AM
I do believe that I can squeeze a 1/48 Tamiya A6M2 Type 21 Zero into my schedule for this GB. Count me in!

-dave

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Posted by JerrynFrog on Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:59 PM
Joe,

This morning I played around a little with some badge ideas. It is difficult cropping photos to the required 65x65 pixel size and having something that resembles the original photo.

I am at home on my old Mac and cannot post links or photos, I must go to the library to do that....but you can copy and paste the following URL into a new browser window and see what I came up with:

http://s79/photobucket.com/albums/158/JerrynFrog/

They are not all that great, but may be suitable for your build....photos are from Guadalcanal.

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:48 PM

I like the middle one of the SBD taking off from the jungle runway, it looks a lot like some of the pics I have come across in looking up my uncles unit in the S. Pacific...

Oh, and something happened to your URL, I found the album here though:

http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/JerrynFrog/

Good work on the badges!!!

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:12 PM

Jerry-nice work on the badges.  They all look great.

Tom-is your new avitar related to the B-25 your uncle flew on?

Bob

 

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