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The Airfix Farewell GB from now until 1st Jan 2007

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E-3D progress report
Posted by jeff on Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:10 PM

Finally, photographic evidence that I am indeed building a model for this group build.

Sorry for the blurry pic, but here's the fuselage.  Almost ready to glue on the flight deck clear piece and lower wing section.  After forcing the warped halves together, it didn't really require much filler.

Here are the CFM-56 engine pods and main gear trucks.

Here are the Yellowgate ESM wingtip pods.  These were a pain in the rear.  Even though the kit is an E-3D with the option to build an E-3F (French), the E-3F would be an easier build because Airfix requires you to cut 1/2 inch off the wingtips to mount the pods.  Even worse, they really aren't accurate, as one reviewer noted, the wings should proceed straight to the pods, not sweep back as on the model.  At least Airfix scored the inside of the wing to make cutting easier.

Here's the rotodome.  Took twice as long to paint than I anticipated, mainly due to my having to touch up after getting white paint smudges on the black areas from handling too soon after painting.

One more of the tail section, similar scale F-104 added for relative size.  Note the crack near the top of the vertical stabilizer.  The panel broke here while trying to straighten out warpage.  As a matter of fact, one outer wing panel is warped slightly up, the other slightly down.  I'm afraid to try and fix it, though, given the brittleness of the plastic.  I'm just going to live with it and hope that it won't be noticeable once the engine pods are glued on and the kit is complete.  With the model's size, the wingtips will be pretty far apart.

Pressing onward with the wings next.  Probably still several weeks away from being complete given my limited work time.

Cheers!

"Congratulations, gentlemen! You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training." Zed (Men in Black) [IMG]
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Posted by DURR on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:20 AM

GREAT work guys

 

seeing that my chipmunks will be done in about 48 hrs i am going to enter

2 or 3 fiat g91r in as well s/b able to start them by 10/30 or 10/31

prior to this group build i only entered 1 other about a yr ago

and now i have this one and an other going at the same time

and i must say

as much fun as i have doing models (although i am a touch below avg in the talent area) this has brought my fun level way up

thanks guys

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Posted by razordws on Monday, October 23, 2006 11:50 PM
Al... Sign - Ditto [#ditto] to all of the above.  Great Job!!!

Dave

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Posted by sidure on Monday, October 23, 2006 11:27 PM

Al, great job on that Tonka. Very impressive finish and you made the Airfix kit a stunner. It goes to show what a little patients and hard work can turn out. Great job and a fast build. Congrats.

Steve

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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, October 23, 2006 2:45 PM
Al, stunning job on the 'Tonka'.

You'd never believe it was an Airfix kit.

Karl

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Posted by osher on Monday, October 23, 2006 12:41 PM
 jeff wrote:
Now I just need to dig up 6-8 ounces of nose weight, which is harder than it sounds in western Europe due to strict controls on lead
Hobbystores here in the UK sell it, for use in flying models.  The stuff I use comes in small rectangles, is self-adhesive.  It's from Great Planes or something like that.  I'm guessing it's sold in Germany too.  If you are really struggling, maybe we can organise something?
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Posted by jeff on Monday, October 23, 2006 10:54 AM

Great job Al on the Tornado!  Congratulations on a beautiful model.  Osher, hang in there.  I'm certainly no expert on canopies, but it helps me to mask curves using strips of tape cut into smaller pieces.  Just make sure to burnish them together well to help prevent bleed under.

The E-3D is still coming along.  I meant to post some pics by now, but haven't pried the camera away from the wife yet.  I hope to finish painting the rotodome tonight, the CFM-56 engine pods are done, the outer wings are done including the tip-mounted Yellowgate ESM pods (which were a bear, more later), and I even have the warped fuselage glued together (by gluing and clamping them about 3-4 inches at a time, thanks Brews for the tip!)  Now I just need to dig up 6-8 ounces of nose weight, which is harder than it sounds in western Europe due to strict controls on lead, and I can join the wings to the fuselage.  Dry fitting reveals a train wreck in the making at the wing-fuselage joint, but I'll worry about that later!

"Congratulations, gentlemen! You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training." Zed (Men in Black) [IMG]
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Posted by osher on Monday, October 23, 2006 6:41 AM
Update: Still struggling (getting fed-up too) with the masking on the caonopy of the MiG-15.  The problem is that when I cleaned it up, I lost most of the canopy lines, and I am not very good when it comes to curves.  Just can't seem to get them right...
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Posted by osher on Monday, October 23, 2006 6:35 AM

WOW!  WOW! WOW!  Pruz you really have tamed the beast!  You taken a monster, and made it into a pet.  The 1/48 Tornado is quite nasty in places, but you've made it look great!  I'm now tempted to pull out my part built one, fix it, and finish it!

You're also the first person to finish completely a model for the GB, well done sir!

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Posted by Pruz on Monday, October 23, 2006 4:28 AM
Wow everyone, some fantastic work going on. Very glad to hear that there are some decent Airfix kits around too. That 48th Seafire sounds like one to get.

Well I've finished the Tonka. Here it is!











Like I said - it was more fun making than it looked at the start, and the decals went on really well.

Looking forward to seeing the others - I'll be watching out!

Thanks osher for a great GB idea.

All the best,
Al
If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going! Finishing off: Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer for USAF 60th Anniversary GB In production: Revell 1/32 F-16A - C conversion
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Posted by sidure on Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:48 PM

Durr, really like that chipmunk collection you have going on there.. Got your own squadron?. Good job.

Karl, very nice progress on the dora.

Steve.

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Posted by jwb on Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:10 PM
 sidure wrote:

Smile [:)]Hey JWB, talking about the Griffon Spits. I built the 46/47 Seafire quite a few years ago so here are some photos or it. The kit is great in all aspects, fit,detail and great panel lines. Up there with the best of them (Tamigawa etc). Shame they did not make more like this one. This one is done as an Irish Air Corps and was built before I learned some tricks of the trade like panel washing etc. I think I will put some finishing touches to it soon. Hope you like it.

Steve

It looks great- thanks for showing that!

Glad to hear it's a good kit- I ordered one this week! LOL

Jon Bius

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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:46 AM
Durr, nice job on the Chipmunks.

Finally some pice from me of the Dora....





The panel shading hasn't come out as well as I would have liked, I should have knocked the base colours back more, but overall a fun little kit.

I still need to add the Morane antenna, and the aerial, then it's done.

Once it is I'll post a full set of prpoer photos.

Karl


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Posted by razordws on Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:15 AM
Steve, nice looking Spitfire.  I did not know such a thing as the Irish Air Corp existed.  Interesting choice, I like it. Smile [:)]

Durr, nice collection of Chipmunks.  Thumbs Up [tup]  Which one is Alvin? Clown [:o)]

Dave

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Posted by DURR on Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:18 PM

well just some touch up and the decaling is all that is left

then i will do some other model or two and come back here with 1-2 more

 






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Posted by sidure on Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:07 AM

SD, nice work on the Avro,504 right. I have started the same kit but had to put it on hold for a while. I am almost at the same stage. I have never rigged a bi-plane and would be interested in knowing how you do it and how it turns out.

Steve

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Posted by sidure on Friday, October 20, 2006 11:54 PM

Smile [:)]Hey JWB, talking about the Griffon Spits. I built the 46/47 Seafire quite a few years ago so here are some photos or it. The kit is great in all aspects, fit,detail and great panel lines. Up there with the best of them (Tamigawa etc). Shame they did not make more like this one. This one is done as an Irish Air Corps and was built before I learned some tricks of the trade like panel washing etc. I think I will put some finishing touches to it soon. Hope you like it.

Steve

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Posted by Brews on Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:19 PM
I've heard that Aeroclub rigging thread is the cat's whiskers, but I haven't tried it personally.
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Posted by sirdrake on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:51 PM
 osher wrote:
Hey Sirdrake, that Avro's really coming along.  Funny, I just realised, I never thought of rigging when setting the OOB rules, but as they're the same sort of thing as seatbelts (essential bits left for the modeller to add), they're cool.  I really can't wait to see it finished, if nothing else, because I'd love to see how you've rigged it up!


Hm, I never thought of it that way, but in a sense rigging of a biplane is not entirely oob because there's no rigging provided in the box Confused [%-)]. But there's diagrams for rigging in the instructions. And a biplane without rigging is just not the real thing. There's something missing. It's an essential part of making it look 'real'... And whatever they told you, it's fun! It builds character Laugh [(-D].

Karl, I usually use 2lb fishing line painted black or 0.05" or 0.08" straight wire, or a mix of both. Depends on how much rigging, where it attaches, the phases of the moon, and what mood I am in...

SD


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Posted by osher on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:42 AM
Hey Sirdrake, that Avro's really coming along.  Funny, I just realised, I never thought of rigging when setting the OOB rules, but as they're the same sort of thing as seatbelts (essential bits left for the modeller to add), they're cool.  I really can't wait to see it finished, if nothing else, because I'd love to see how you've rigged it up!

jwb, that Spit look great, and yes, the F.22/24 is a great kit.  The Eduard kit is actually the Airfix kit, which I think shows the quality of the kt.
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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:28 AM

Jon, very nice job on the Spit.

SD, I've only ever rigged one biplane, but I used 38 gauge beading wire, rolled straight under a steel rule, and measured with a set of dividers.

Much easier than drilling holes and tying knots, just needs a dab of CA and you're done.

Still haven't got around to taking pics of the Dora, but then I've got a 4 day weekend, so will get them done this week.

Karl

 

 

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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:15 AM
Jon, the spit is looking pretty nice! Thumbs Up [tup]

SD, WOW...  nice looking bipe.  Did you say rigging Black Eye [B)]!  I've never actually tried it on a bi-plane but I hear pure torture.  Looking forward to seeing more progress pics.

Dave

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Posted by sirdrake on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:37 PM
Upper wing attached - now it actually looks like an airplane.






It's rigging time!

SD

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:18 PM
 Brews wrote:

Truly excellent Airfix kits can be found in their Spitfire 22/24 and Seafire 46/47. These are Griffon Spits with cut-down rear fuselages, bubble canopies, and either 5 blade props, or, in the case of the 46 (I think), 6-bladed contra-rotating props. I understand that the reason that Airfix did not continue with making such good kits was that the tooling costs were high, and the bean counters came in and the rest is history.

I'd love to show you pictures of my Griffon Spits. I wish I knew where they were! My laptop hard drive died, and with it my database of storage.

However, I could show you, perhaps, pictures of my still-incomplete Mk XII. I'll have a look and see what I can find.



I'd love to see them!

I've been eyeballing that 22/24- I think you convinced me. Wink [;)] Not that it's hard to do!

Jon Bius

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Posted by osher on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:06 PM
 viper_mp wrote:
I'm in.  I'm about half way through a 1/72 Hawkers Siddeley Hawk. 
  Welcome aboard!  Just realised I forgot to update the front page, excuse me.

BTW, not much progress on my MiG, except coated it in Klear/Future, and started to mask.  Why is it masking looks so easy in the magazines, but in real life....
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Posted by Brews on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:57 PM

Truly excellent Airfix kits can be found in their Spitfire 22/24 and Seafire 46/47. These are Griffon Spits with cut-down rear fuselages, bubble canopies, and either 5 blade props, or, in the case of the 46 (I think), 6-bladed contra-rotating props. I understand that the reason that Airfix did not continue with making such good kits was that the tooling costs were high, and the bean counters came in and the rest is history.

I'd love to show you pictures of my Griffon Spits. I wish I knew where they were! My laptop hard drive died, and with it my database of storage.

However, I could show you, perhaps, pictures of my still-incomplete Mk XII. I'll have a look and see what I can find.

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:41 PM
 Brews wrote:

Before you do a XIV, can I suggest a Falcon Spitfire Triple Conversion set, which has vacform fuselages for Mk XII, XI and XVI. These are designed to be mated to the wings of the Airfix Spitfire VB fuselage, and Otaki/ARII/Airfix Mk VIII fuselages (for the XI and XVI).

For the XII, which is a personal favourite of mine, I recommend the True Details (not ex-KMC) Spitfire Vb cockpit set to complement the Airfix parts, and the Eduard colour zoom set for either the Hase or Tami Spitfire Vbs.



Wow- I'm gonna have to keep those in mind. I'd love to eventually build every mark of Spitfire I can. Which I know would eventually fill a room Wink [;)]

I think what I like about the XIV is the Griffon engine- the bigger nose, 5 bladed prop...... cool looking plane.

Have you built those? I'd love to see pics of them.

Jon Bius

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Posted by Brews on Monday, October 16, 2006 6:36 PM

Before you do a XIV, can I suggest a Falcon Spitfire Triple Conversion set, which has vacform fuselages for Mk XII, XI and XVI. These are designed to be mated to the wings of the Airfix Spitfire VB fuselage, and Otaki/ARII/Airfix Mk VIII fuselages (for the XI and XVI).

For the XII, which is a personal favourite of mine, I recommend the True Details (not ex-KMC) Spitfire Vb cockpit set to complement the Airfix parts, and the Eduard colour zoom set for either the Hase or Tami Spitfire Vbs.

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Monday, October 16, 2006 6:21 AM
 Brews wrote:


If the ocean grey is at least as dark as the starboard wing appears, then it's probably the only other paint that would match Xtracolour Ocean Grey, which is what I think is the best match to many of the colour photos (not absolute match, but relative to the Dark Green, which again can be a fairly contentious colour (Humbrol H116 or H 163, for instance).



It was weird. The ocean grey and the medium sea gray loooked almost identical in the bottle. So much so that I painted a test patch of each side by side for comparison. The ocean gray dried much darker than it appeared wet. I'd almost added a touch of black to it, just to make it darker. Once it dried though, I was happy with it. I pulled out a color photo I have of a Spitfire IX- a restored one- and the two compared pretty good, although the real bird was a bit glossier.

I do like building Spitfires! I've got a Vc I'm doing next, in the desert camo, or maybe a US bird stationed in Italy. Haven't decided yet. And I want to build a Mk. XIV too. You can never have enough Spitfires, P-40s or Mustangs, IMO! Wink [;)]

Jon Bius

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by Brews on Monday, October 16, 2006 3:37 AM


If the ocean grey is at least as dark as the starboard wing appears, then it's probably the only other paint that would match Xtracolour Ocean Grey, which is what I think is the best match to many of the colour photos (not absolute match, but relative to the Dark Green, which again can be a fairly contentious colour (Humbrol H116 or H 163, for instance).

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