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Revell Monogram Group Build!!!

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Posted by yardbird78 on Saturday, September 1, 2007 12:27 PM

I like your work on the Mig.  That squiggly paint job must have been really labor intensive.

Darwin, O.F.  Alien [alien]

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Posted by Screaminhelo on Saturday, September 1, 2007 4:03 PM

A little progress on the M finally!

What do you guys think of the possum huntin' gun I have on there?  The lightning sat in the box in my truck all afternoon on a 100+ degree day, I'm sure you know the rest.  Actually, I just installed the kit pieces to help me get the nose right, I will be replacing them with brass later.

I like the Mig.  It is nice to see one in something besides a NMF.  The cammo really changes the character of the plane.

 

 

Mac

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Posted by sidure on Sunday, September 2, 2007 11:01 PM

Well fellas, I am calling this one finished. I have noticed some small details that need a little tweeking here and there but overall shes done. I have decided to put this in adiorama and use the figures it comes with with maybee a few extras. In quick review. This is a very nice kit with good detail and fit overall. Only problem I had was the wing to fuselage joint at the top had a major gap that was a pain to fill. I ended up putting shims in and liquid cement to fill the grand canyon with plenty of filler and sanding. The rest of the fit was very good. It was painted with MM enamils and weathered with pastel sludge wash and pastel powders. The only recess detail was on the engines and flying surfaces so not much to do there. I used a silver pencil for chipped paint on the cowls and prop blades which I over did the effect and will correct that. The kit decals were terrible as the shattered into hundreds of pieces when they hit the surface and I had to piece them together with a tooth pick. They are also translucent and the invasion stripes show through them. I wanted a D-day bird so I painted the invasion stripes (uuggghhh) and I had to make the yellow code letters to properly represent them as the kit supplied ones are grey. I will now work on the figures to go with the kit in a diorama.

Thanks for looking and any comments and critizism welcome.

Steve

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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Screaminhelo on Monday, September 3, 2007 8:13 AM

Very nice Steve!

I really like the shots with the ptroopers, they really give life to the model!

 

Mac

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Posted by hkshooter on Monday, September 3, 2007 1:42 PM

Looks awesome, Steve!

When I finish the Spit I think I'm gonna start the kit I promised for this GB.

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, September 3, 2007 2:04 PM

Mac, good progress so far. I like how that's coming together.

Steve, excellent model of the C-47. Makes me want to build one now.  I'd say that your chipping on the cowls is just fine; looks very realistic. I think you just need to fix the ones on the blades. Paratroopers look great. A good wash on them will bring out the detail, after you re-paint over the flesh-colored paint bleed. If you do this well on this model, I can't wait to see her in the diorama you plan! Bring it on!

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Posted by sidure on Monday, September 3, 2007 6:54 PM

Thanks for the comments guy's. The props did not look too bad in person but then on photos they look just like scratches so I will be re-painting and chipping again. By ther way, should the chipping be mostly just on one side?. As far as the troops go, I just bloobed the flesh colour on for a starting point and I will be adding different colours and washes to finish them off. Also I will probably put some black on their faces with some pastels. Any other suggestions are welcome.

Steve

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Posted by Daryl Huhtala on Monday, September 3, 2007 7:47 PM

A note on props from an old DC-6 mechanic;

 

A propellor blade has a face and a back. The face is the surface which bites into the air as it's turning. That means that the surface on the engine side is the face and the surface away from the engine is the back. The majority of chipping is on the leading edge and on the face (engine) side of the blade as that is where most of the contact with grit, sand and other abrasive elements occurs. A few chips do occur on the back side (forward surface) of the blade but they are far fewer than what would normally show on the face (engine) side of the blades.

 

That being said, I really like the Gooney bird Steve. Looks like it's ready for a trip to Nijmegen with a load of Screaming Eagles....

 

Also like the tiger stripes on the MIG and Bondoman has a major project going with the Pine Island.....good stuff!

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 1:49 PM

Thanks Daryl! I'm going to shoot you a PM so we don't go off topic here, about propellers.

 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 1:52 PM
Thats a great looking Skytrain. In addition to the great work, there is ALOT of it!
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Posted by yardbird78 on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 3:17 PM

Sidure,

Beautiful work on the D-Day Gooney Bird.  The paratroopers add a lot to the image.

Darwin, O.F.  Alien [alien]

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The B-52 and me, we have grown old, gray and overweight together.

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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Screaminhelo on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:55 PM

Looking for some help out there in model land.  I lost the side windows for my P-38, might any of y'all have these parts?

 

Mac

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:26 AM

You may want to see if Squadron makes a vacuform canopy for that kit. If no replacement parts turn up, you can build it in the open configuration. On a P-38 the side panels roll down like on a car for entry and exit in addition to the clamshell top.

 

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Posted by Daryl Huhtala on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 AM

The side windows do not totally disappear when down. The top edge is still visible.

I think I can dig out some canopy panels. Screaminhelo watch for a PM this afternoon when I get home from work.

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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Screaminhelo on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:26 PM

Thanks Daryl, the parts arrived today!  Hopefully I can get them on and shoot some paint with my new AB that I have been aching to use for two weeks!

 

Mac

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Posted by JMart on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 9:50 PM

This post will take the prize for most dumb question ever asked in a GB thread but....

Do you have to be GOOD to join a GB? Or can a clueless newbie join in?

I came back to the hobby a few months ago after a 30 year hiatus... and just got my first AB :) ... been slowly building the Revell P-51D (1:48) and learning techniques (and making many errors). Would be neat to join GBs to learn from experienced modelers, but feel funny about posting my crappy build in the middle of such great kits.  thanks for the info.

 

 

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Posted by sidure on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:54 PM

JMart, absolutely not just for experts, one and all are welcome. On behalf of most guy's here I think I can say that you learn more being a member of a group build and the wealth of knowledge around is amazing. I say welcome and jump in and start having fun and improve your skills. Welcome back to a great hobby. And by the way post some of your work and we can help and give advise etc.

Steve

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:37 AM
 JMart wrote:

This post will take the prize for most dumb question ever asked in a GB thread but....

Do you have to be GOOD to join a GB? Or can a clueless newbie join in?

I came back to the hobby a few months ago after a 30 year hiatus... and just got my first AB :) ... been slowly building the Revell P-51D (1:48) and learning techniques (and making many errors). Would be neat to join GBs to learn from experienced modelers, but feel funny about posting my crappy build in the middle of such great kits.  thanks for the info.

There's not much thats more fun than GBs. Post a digital photo of your box top and you'll have it explained to you why the kit came with cigarette smell. Explained five times.

I am a newbie as of March. Grab a couple and go. Keep it to three before you finish one.

You'll figure out the few that are pros, most of the rest are more like you or me.

Best of all, when you can't figure out why A doesn't fit with B, swanny or ernie or daywalker or... will let you know.

It's Big B... Doll, right? I'm dying for a 'stang modeler; not me, to do my favorite: Upupa Epops.

Thumbs Up [tup]god I hate these emoticons- model on!!! =8:-)

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Posted by mph34 on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:15 AM
 JMart wrote:

This post will take the prize for most dumb question ever asked in a GB thread but....

Do you have to be GOOD to join a GB? Or can a clueless newbie join in?

I came back to the hobby a few months ago after a 30 year hiatus... and just got my first AB :) ... been slowly building the Revell P-51D (1:48) and learning techniques (and making many errors). Would be neat to join GBs to learn from experienced modelers, but feel funny about posting my crappy build in the middle of such great kits.  thanks for the info.

At one time, ALL OF US were clueless newbies. 

My first bit of advice is "Don't get overwelmed by the work of others".  Use the work of others for inspiration and a goal to reach.  Each model you do will get better as long as you have fun with it and don't feel like you must reach some sort of 'bar of acheivment' with this group.

Second "The only stupid question is the one not asked"  Who knows, 5 other people might have the same question as you.

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Posted by JMart on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 12:24 PM

sidure , bondoman , mph34  - Thank you for your reply and kind words... I must admit this group is a lot more friendly that other "newsgroups/forums" I have been involved last few years... :)

Anyways, I would like to enter the GB with my (in progress) Rev 1:48 P-51D (aka the "test bed"); OOB with scratchbuilding anything I have managed to break so far... The build is already a success in my eyes because: (1) I came back to the hobby, and it IS an enjoyable relaxing endevour (2) I learned/re-learned lots of techniques; (3) I got my youngest kid "hooked" on (good) plastic!

I will post pics once I get photobucket account going.

Progress so far (kit has been on my workbench couple months):

1. Cockpit - learned to drybrush and "Future" the dials; however, cockpit slipped forward (inside fuselage) about 5-8mm between dry fitting and gluing the fuselage :(

2. Fuselage and primer done - sanded that seam until it looked as smooth as a baby's bottom. Upon priming, it still looked like a baby's bottom, except one with diaper rash. Rubbed the primer away on the seams, will re-fix using the putty/acetone method found in Swammy's site.

3. Wheel assembly - Done/re-done 7 times. Finally got a paint scheme that sort of looks like "tire" (you mean, we dont "flat black" the tires anymore?). Except I broke one of the wheel assembly thingies...

4. Panel scribing - read about Revell kits having raised panels ,decided to attempt to scribe them. Good, except I did them free hand with an Xcto knife at 90o angle (not 45). I sanded most of it down, who knows what it will look like after main paint/some weathering.

 I seriously thought of using my 40% off coupon at Michaels and get another P-51D..but decided to finish this one (i sort of owe it to the kit!) as a "baseline" of my abilities..hopefully I can see progress on the next builds...

Im sure I will post questions in the near future.... Im bummed about that "slipped" cockpit, but cant think of a way to fix that short of opening the fuselage...

Cheers, Jim

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, October 4, 2007 1:38 AM

You are obviously good at this.

Waiting to see pics, too.

You know what you need to do re: the cockpit, don't you?

Good to have you aboard.

The Pine Island is finished, I'm mounting her on a base which will have a smooth black sea over which the crew is raising a Mariner.

I've discovered that there is a point where all of the PE starts to come back off again, so I've got to put her down. Pics soon.

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  • From: NJ
Posted by JMart on Thursday, October 4, 2007 7:56 PM

Ill try get good pics this weekend...

Bondoman: No, I dont know what to do about the cockpit... its glued to the fuselage side, and fuselage is closed... some point during that process the assembly slipped a few cm north... Ill take a pic this weekend.

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, October 4, 2007 8:21 PM
I don't know either, but a thought is that if the wings aren't on yet you might cut it free from the underside thru the big hole. I guess what I was hinting at was I'll bet you'd be happier if you could fix it. Let's see whats what. If its glued mostly on one side, that'd help the situation.
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Posted by mph34 on Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:54 PM
 JMart wrote:

 The build is already a success in my eyes because: (1) I came back to the hobby, and it IS an enjoyable relaxing endevour (2) I learned/re-learned lots of techniques; (3) I got my youngest kid "hooked" on (good) plastic!

I say Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] for all three reasons.  Though I am not sure I'd call a Monogram kit good plastic.... Maybe plastic with lots of potential.  Welcome back to the hobby and welcome to your youngest as well - the hobby needs new blood I mean more of the younger generation.

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Posted by TheLastPriest on Friday, October 5, 2007 12:40 AM
You tried rescribing lines on one of your first kits?!?!?!?!?! wow, jumping head long I see, congrats. I am not a pro, in fact I was sitting in your seat november of last year.  The biggest peice of advice I can give you right now is, dont hinder your progress on this kit as you learn new stuff. My first kit back was big beautiful doll and it took me forever because I kept trying to go back and add new techniques. This one is not gonna come out perfect, what matters is experience, just as this one is a test bed so is the next and the next and the one after that. you put kits together you get better. Oh and welcome to the GB, I joined right at the beginning with a 1/48 B17 that I have not touched in 6 months....bit off more then I could chew. But I still hang around and pretend im a member

It is only the intellect that keeps me sane; perhaps this makes me overvalue intellect against feeling

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, October 5, 2007 1:09 AM

Starta new kit. Have a couple going at once. God knows RM makes em. Close your eyes and free associate.

A '67 Mustang.

The 1:32 Corsair was a classic for the ages.

I'm doing the Pine Island 1/400 which is because I loved navy ships as a kid ... and... its got a bitty little Mariner that I was mad about because when I was 10 it shoulda been a Catalina, but now I get it. Next, a F-82 twin Mustang; BTW the Ace in Berkeley has abt 5 on the shelf at $ 15 each and if you do one I won't because I've committed to too many other GBs.

Oh and I finish three kits a year, Yes I know I'm fast.

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Posted by TheLastPriest on Friday, October 5, 2007 2:08 AM
I finished 4 kits this year so far and about to start on a hasegawa F-14, I cant really count the first kit of the year because I did most of the work last year. but ya like I said, just keep the kits going and they will turn out better and better. and may I recommend the academy 1/72 kits, quite inexpensive and it will feel like going from ground beef to steak going from RM to academy. just make sure you investigate the kit first, some are better then others

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Posted by Azgaron on Friday, October 5, 2007 2:47 AM

Things are going very slow. Too many GBs I guess Smile [:)] Anyway I worked a bit on the rather ugly instrument panel for my F-15. It consist of a transparent piece of plastic with an ugly decal glued to it's back. I tryed to paint some of the frontside a little, but I'm not sure if it improve the looks of it. Smile [:)]

Next I'll try to remake the joystick and some detail on the side panels.

 

Azgaron

 

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  • From: NJ
Posted by JMart on Friday, October 5, 2007 9:09 PM

bondoman - Thanks for the tip... however, wings are also in place.. i will leave "as is" and do better next time!

mph34 - Thanks... Revell plastic is still better than "Credit card" plastic ;) I chose Revell for nostalgic reasons, cost and I figure I could use the practice....

TheLastPriest - Thanks for the tip... yes, this is one is the ubiquitous "big Beautiful Doll".. If yuo have a Michaels Craft Store near you, you can use the 40% off coupon they stick in every Sat/Sun newspaper and get revell kits for 6-8$.

 Ok, back to figuring out this Photobucket web site so I can post pics

 

 

 

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Posted by TheLastPriest on Friday, October 5, 2007 9:28 PM
Unfortunatly I believe I am now a styrene snob, after experiencing the quality of the other major manufactures I dont think I will ever go back to the old RM, trusty as they were in my younger days I am now totally immersed in the new technology and better quality of todays kits. I think that the only way I may venture back is if they are the only game in town(1/48 B-17G)

It is only the intellect that keeps me sane; perhaps this makes me overvalue intellect against feeling

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