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jwb
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Posted by jwb on Monday, April 23, 2007 3:11 PM
 TANGO 1 wrote:

 

Jon- 

sorry I did'nt answer this earlier!Blush [:I] Those colours would be right for a Hellcat.Thumbs Up [tup] I'm using them on my current build too.

Thanks! Cool [8D]

Jon Bius

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, April 23, 2007 10:05 PM

Busy day in the shop today!  This morning, I glued the office in, fuse halves together, and wing parts together.  This afternoon I started filling and sanding with the intention of getting it started, and by tonite had finished sanding the seams on the wing parts and fuse halves.  I also rescribed the lost panel lines.  Tomorrow I will clip the wings and attach the wing stubs to the fuse.  Here's where she's at:

Frank 

 

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Posted by darson on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 5:56 AM

She looks great Frank, keep thos pics coming.

Also, you have an inbound PM

Cheers 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:17 AM
Thanks Darren! 

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:14 AM
Very sharp, Frank! Assembly looks flawless. What scheme are you doing and who's markings are you planning on using?

Mike

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:58 AM

Looking good so far Frank.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:10 PM

Thanks guys!

Mike-

I was originally going to do one in overall dark blue, but decided to change it to the dark gray/dark green/sky instead.  I looked at the markings from Techmod on Meteor's site, but didn't want to have to order $25.00 worth of stuff just to get my decals.  So, I am thinking about trying my hand at masking and painting my own markings.  Not sure which aircraft yet, but suppose I'll have to decide soon as she will be ready for some paint in a week or two!

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:35 PM

Hi Everyone,

well I am having a heck of a time trying to attach the wings to my Tamiya corsair.Disapprove [V]

I dryfitted the parts and all seemed to be well, then when I attached the starboard wing all went wrong....Banged Head [banghead] I just could not get a flush fit. After much cursing, I ripped out the the spar and superglued the wing on. I have left the airtframe on its side overnight and will hope form the best. It is probably me....but just watch out for it its darn tricky if you ask me!

 

As for the Hellcat- I have'nt managed to mess this one up-yet! I have finished painting the canopy and have ripped the seated pilot figure from the Corsair kit so he can sit in the Hellcat.

I have started painting him tonight and hopefully if I have time I will crack on with the decals for this one as well.

Hope all is well,

 

Pirate [oX)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:05 PM
 Daywalker wrote:

Thanks guys!

Mike-

I was originally going to do one in overall dark blue, but decided to change it to the dark gray/dark green/sky instead.  I looked at the markings from Techmod on Meteor's site, but didn't want to have to order $25.00 worth of stuff just to get my decals.  So, I am thinking about trying my hand at masking and painting my own markings.  Not sure which aircraft yet, but suppose I'll have to decide soon as she will be ready for some paint in a week or two!

Sounds like a great paint scheme, Frank! Thumbs Up [tup] If you're looking for roundels & codes, I'm sure I have some spares. Let me know if you're interested.

Mike

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Posted by wyoroy on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:04 PM

Mike forgot to tell you that I got you PM the other day.  Thanks you very much Bow [bow]

Roy

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:16 PM

Yep, I saw it, Roy.

Anytime, my friend. Glad I could help! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

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Posted by gwaihir on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:20 PM

Frank and Darren,

A question about your corsairs. I tried everythink I could think of to get my wing root piece to go on in a nice way, but no matter what I did it is a little off; I read a build on hyperscale where the guy mentioned he had the problem, so he steamed and readjusted one of the wings a little. Anyway, I am just wondering if you had the same problem with yours or if maybe it is just a glitch in a few or (more likely) due to some other step I screwed up slightly.

Thanks - hope to get some photos to show progress and the problem tonight...

Leon 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:24 PM

Mike-

Thanks Buddy!  That would be awesome!  I don't have any particular aircraft in mind, anything in the sceme sounds good to me.  PM inbound.

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:32 PM
 gwaihir wrote:

Frank and Darren,

A question about your corsairs. I tried everythink I could think of to get my wing root piece to go on in a nice way, but no matter what I did it is a little off; I read a build on hyperscale where the guy mentioned he had the problem, so he steamed and readjusted one of the wings a little. Anyway, I am just wondering if you had the same problem with yours or if maybe it is just a glitch in a few or (more likely) due to some other step I screwed up slightly.

Thanks - hope to get some photos to show progress and the problem tonight...

Leon 

Leon,

One thing I remember from the previous Tamiya Corsairs that I built was making sure to NOT glue cockpit in place, rather let it float around inside the fuse.  It won't fall out, but it will give you a little room to adjust it.  The problem is the little bulkhead attached to the rudder pedals, if it isn't perfectly lined up it will not fit into the little slot for it next to the belly window.  Try wiggling it around and side to side to see if you can get it to "click" into place.  That should help.  Wish I had thought of it before, then I coulda warned everyone about it.

darren,

The OTHER thing I now remember is attaching the outer wing panels to the center section.  It helps to add little shims inside to add gluing area between the two.  Sorry guys, shoulda mentioned it earlier. Banged Head [banghead]

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:10 PM
 Daywalker wrote:

Mike-

Thanks Buddy!  That would be awesome!  I don't have any particular aircraft in mind, anything in the sceme sounds good to me.  PM inbound.

Got it and replied, Frank! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

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Posted by gwaihir on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:10 PM

Ok, here is where I am with my corsair. I have the fuselage glued and the upper seams all cleaned up. In the pictures, you can see a dark line; I am hoping that is paint remnant or something and not something I'll have to deal with again later. You can see I went ahead and removed the fuel cap rectangle and tried to replace it with some extra sheet plastic.

 

 

As for my wing root problem. Below are two pictures trying to illustrate the slight problem. In the top I put a yellow line along the horizontal stabilizer line and then along the wing line to show a slight drop on the (picture) right side. Then one that shows it again comparing the opening on the cowl and the wings. I think I am going to try the steaming since it is already all closed up (got your advice too late frank - thanks though). Anyone tried that before, and if so, any extra advice or anything?

 

Thanks.
Leon

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Posted by darson on Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:01 AM

Frank & Leon the progress looks excellent so far, keep the pics coming.

Thanks to everyone who is posting hints and tips on the Tamiya Corsair.  I'm filing them all away for the time I actually get around to build one of these kits.

I have actually made a little progress on the Seafire over the last couple of days with completing the sanding down of the wing attachment sections and starting construction on the cockpit.  I'll post some pics when there's something worth seeing.

Cheers 

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Posted by harvs73 on Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:19 AM

A short update of my two aircraft:

The Barracuda is in the process of fixing all the small things that require it prior to masking for painting.

The Firefly is in one piece. The worst part so far has just been the poor joint between wings and body. It required a fair bit of filler and some card to fill the gaps as well as heaps of carving of platic to wedge the wings in. Other than that it's a great kit. The tape in the picture below solved a lot of the gap that appeared.

 

Dave Harvey

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:28 AM

Dave,

Sounds like quite the builder's kit!  You're making it look easy- looks great!

Frank 

 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:09 AM

Leon & Frank,  Nice progress guys.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:24 AM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] what Rick says. Looking good, guys!

Dave, I had to use the same trick on my 'canes wings, but with a slight twist. Actually had to remove a little plastic from one of the wing roots as the fit was too tight and any dihedral would disappear when they were installed. I shaved off a bit on one side, glued one side after installing them, let that set up, then taped and glued just the other side and let that one cure. Worked out fine. She's been painted and clear-coated....today the decals and the wash go on.

Mike

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:19 PM

Leon,

you've got me there mate.....my wing went straight on with no problems. I did find that the elevators were a little tricky when fitting, I think that because the fit on this kit is so tight that it does not give much room for manovere.  I would be very careful if you use steam though, give it a bit too much and it all goes wrong.

I would geta a blade into the wing root joints as ease the airframe apart and start again. Not very nice for you as you done such a nice job on the seams, but if you are gentle enough with the plastic it shopuld not be too bad.

Whichever way you go good luck with it.Thumbs Up [tup]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:20 PM

Dave,

very nice work mate! That model is going to be a beauty when its done!Thumbs Up [tup]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:32 PM

Quick update from me......

I have completed the wing assembly on the Corsair, it was a Censored [censored] of a job to do and I have added a little filler due to a tiny gap along the join. I have also clipped the wings at last and it went well.Thumbs Up [tup]

Much clean up is needed along the wingfold line, so again to save the details I will take my time sanding these parts.

As for the Hellcat, progress has slowed due to my omitting some background paint for the stencils on the fuselage invasion stripes.Banged Head [banghead] Real easy to fix, but time consuming.

When its dry/glossed/dry again, I will be able to continue getting the decals on this one. I have also finished painting the pilot figure and started work on a display base too. I'll get some pics up when progress gets going on all this. 

 

 

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:29 PM
Darren, I'm glad that everything went OK with Corsair wings. I know they were giving you mega-fits. It looks like I'm just a little bit ahead of you progress-wise. Got the decals on today, more gloss coat, then everything was flattened out with some Pollyscale flat. The main gear struts have been attached and are setting up as I type (I'll let them sit overnight). All that's left is to attach the exhaust stacks, hispano guns, prop/spinner, all the lights (there's 7 of 'em!), the gear doors and main wheels, the antenna wires, and the as of yet unpainted rear canopy piece...and then I'm done! Wink [;)]

Mike

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Posted by wyoroy on Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:37 PM

Hello to all!  You guys have been busy.  I have been slowly removing the rudder, flaps, and elevators on my Corsair.  I only get to work maybe an hour or two a week Boohoo [BH] As some of you may know my in-laws are coming to visit from Germany next week (for a month) Big Smile [:D]Boohoo [BH]  Which in my case, means even less time to work on my group build.  I will be back within a month and I hope to dedicate more time to the build. 

Roy

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:06 PM

I have a question for you guys,

Tonight, I was putting the flat coat on my Zero, and ran into a little problem.  The problem is, it looks like thousands of little cracks all over it.  I used the PollyScale flat, and have used it before with no problem.  I painted it with Gunze acrylics, ussed Gunze clear as a gloss, put on my decals, gave it a wash, let it dry for three days, and tonight- BOOM!  Diaster.

I think I may have put it on a little thick, using my new Badger 350 airbrush.  That 'brush can squirt out a lot of paint!  I tried laying on several light coats after it, but it doesn't seem to help.  Has anyone run into this problem?  Not sure what to do at this point to fix it.  Hopefully, someone has an idea. Banged Head [banghead] Grumpy [|(] Banged Head [banghead]

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:26 PM

Wow, Frank....that bites. Short of stripping it down and starting again, I'm kinda stumped. If the paint is cracked underneath, that may be your only recourse other than somehow masking the decals and painting it again, clear-coating it with Future this time, and then hitting it one more time with the PS flat. Either way, I'm afraid it could wind up to be a lot of work. Hopefully someone has a better solution to what happened.

Mike

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:41 PM

I don't use Gunze paints, but the spider web cracking you describe is almost always associated with a gloss paint.  Sounds like the clear coat of Gunze was the culprit.  No easy way to fix it I fear.  Best to strip it & try again.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Friday, April 27, 2007 1:29 PM

Frank,

I honestly don't know what to tell you mate, thats a tough break. I recon the gloss coat is the culprit but the only cure that I know is to strip the thing down and start again.

Get some oven cleaner and smear it all over the plastic, then place it in a sealed carrier bag and leave it overnight. Next day wash everything off with some water. Its a messy job-but it works.

Hope this helps somehow. 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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