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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, December 3, 2009 1:02 AM
 harvs73 wrote:

 bondoman wrote:
It is a good test of skills. One reason why I prefer older kits is that it reminds me of how good we have it now. And they're harder. I haven't had the opportunity as all my kid stuff is gone, but I'd love it.

So it's a good thing then that I just obtained the old Smer 1/50 Swordfish on floats? :-) There is another of the same kit for me to acquire if I so desire it as well.

The Tamiya Mk.1 costs $ 70 or so. I'd be into building a Fairey floatplane, don't see those too often. That sounds like a winner to me.
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Posted by Antipodean Andy on Thursday, December 3, 2009 1:09 AM
What an awesome GB and GB 'family'.  You guys rock.  Looking forward to joining next year's effort.
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Posted by lewbud on Thursday, December 3, 2009 1:51 AM

 Antipodean Andy wrote:
What an awesome GB and GB 'family'.  You guys rock.  Looking forward to joining next year's effort.

Why wait?????  Get yer mangy hide down to the mess.  Otherwise ye'll be gettin a visit from the Australian contingent.  Ye really don't want them to come a callin.  Seriously come on board.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, December 3, 2009 2:45 AM
 lewbud wrote:

 Antipodean Andy wrote:
What an awesome GB and GB 'family'.  You guys rock.  Looking forward to joining next year's effort.

Why wait?????  Get yer mangy hide down to the mess.  Otherwise ye'll be gettin a visit from the Australian contingent.  Ye really don't want them to come a callin.  Seriously come on board.

Mr. BUDD!! I'll be th' judge o' that, b' gar! Sounds like time to bring the marines down to the mess and clean out the grifters wot are camped within. My sense is there's hope for'm, maybe on the foredeck.

Mr. Antipode if that really is your name, we'll take your papers at the gang and issue you a duty. My sense is it'll involve cleaning up the Admiral's vomit, and in following a suggestion of a... subject.  Our ship hoves back to USN round abt next February, as I recall the CAG's last orders, but not being able to speak for his excellent missnibness I would suspect it's a little unknown 'cept in his excellent melon. therefore the directive is to build NOW and build well, on a FAA theme. 

There's no direct lashing for not finishing anything, as the XO will remind us, but it's a grand thing to make models here. Them's the rules.

CAG this man may come aboard. Let the XO be awakened and write him into the log.

Captain Bondoman, USN every inch of memory space

 

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Posted by Evil Herc on Thursday, December 3, 2009 7:04 AM

 simpilot34 wrote:
Shock [:O] CAT SEASON!!!!! WABBIT SEASON!!!!! DUCK SEASON!!!!! BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Laugh [(-D] 

Sorry, I read that line and laughed.....I haven't thought of these cartoons in years!!

 

Question: I am working on my Hellcat and was wondering if the FAA paint scheme had a sharp edge demarcation between the Duck egg and top color. And also was the top colors sharp edged or feathered into one another???

Kannichiwa & Arigato-Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 12:31 PM
Yeah, someone to clean up certain indiscretions on me cabin floor, that's the Christmas Spirit!

John

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Posted by wyoroy on Thursday, December 3, 2009 2:33 PM
Jason, I made mine a sharp edge.

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 5:31 PM

 Antipodean Andy wrote:
What an awesome GB and GB 'family'.  You guys rock.  Looking forward to joining next year's effort.

"NOW HEAR THIS!"

Gentlemen, 

please welcome Lt. Antipodean Andy to our ship, our mess, our decks and our hangers. Its a bloody pleasure to have you on board mate! Thumbs Up [tup]

                Sign - Welcome [#welcome]WELCOME ANDY! Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

Andy, stow your gear and join us in the mess! If you want to jump right in with a build go right ahead or if you like just hang out until next years deployment. 

CHEERS!Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 5:37 PM

John,

sorry to hear your latest build has crashed and burned, have a cold one and start over.

Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 5:46 PM

READY ROOM BULLETIN:

LT. EVIL HERC HAS BEEN EMBARKED ONBOARD SHIP AS OUR USMC UNIT COMMANDER.

BY ORDER OF THE CIC PACIFIC FLEET HE WILL TAKE COMMAND OF ALL US MARINE DETATCHMENTS ON BOARD.

ALL OFFICERS AND CREW WILL NOW BE ADVISED HIS NEW RANK IS

USMC COLONEL/USMC SQUADRON COMMANDER. FAA/USN/FAW GB

THAT IS ALL.

 

CAG.

 

 

(Of course, if thats too much to remember just yell "Hey Jar Head!" and prey that this brave Marine doesn't rip out your eyes and Censored [censored]Censored [censored] you!)

SEMPER FI! Captain [4:-)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 6:17 PM

Hello Chaps! Pirate [oX)]

I see Bondo mentioned my intent for next years build theme...........well, there is an idea that I would like to put forward. How about a campaign theme? 

Here are my idea's:

 1.Pacific WWII -FAA, RCN, RAN, USN, USMC

 2.Vietnam-USN, USMC, RAN

 3.1991 Gulf War-  FAA, USN, USMC, RAN, RCN, FN

Lots of possibilities here from warbirds to sweet 60's jets to modern jets. What do you think lads? If you would rather hand back over to the US Fleet next year that's fine too-I just thought I'd put the idea out there.Smile [:)]

Your thoughts please!

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 6:21 PM

..................Sigh [sigh] After a nine day deployment I'm back at home and no one has left me any rum!

X/O! I need the rum locker. NOW!

 

Big Smile [:D]

 

Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, December 3, 2009 6:24 PM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] aboard Andy!  Glad to see the crew is wasting no time is assigning you your duties. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Evil Herc- Congratulations, glad to have a Marine detachment aboard.

CAG- Interesting ideas for the next theme...

Must admit, any one of those is just fine with me as long as the GB itself maintains the attitude and integrity it has enjoyed all of these years.  So, name the theme when the time comes and I shall put together an approriate build!  That is assuming I have completed the FAA Corsair by then. Disapprove [V]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, December 3, 2009 6:25 PM
 TANGO 1 wrote:

..................Sigh [sigh] After a nine day deployment I'm back at home and no one has left me any rum!

X/O! I need the rum locker. NOW!

 

Big Smile [:D]

 

Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

No worries Sir, I kept a keg hidden for your return.  Do not think we would ever leave you dry aboard THIS ship!

AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Pirate [oX)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 7:03 PM

AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Pirate <img src=" border="0" />

I knew I could count on you! Send the young lady to my cabin with another bottle will you?

Mischief [:-,]

CHEERS!Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, December 3, 2009 8:46 PM
 TANGO 1 wrote:

Hello Chaps! Pirate [oX)]

I see Bondo mentioned my intent for next years build theme...........well, there is an idea that I would like to put forward. How about a campaign theme? 

Here are my idea's:

 1.Pacific WWII -FAA, RCN, RAN, USN, USMC

 2.Vietnam-USN, USMC, RAN

 3.1991 Gulf War-  FAA, USN, USMC, RAN, RCN, FN

Lots of possibilities here from warbirds to sweet 60's jets to modern jets. What do you think lads? If you would rather hand back over to the US Fleet next year that's fine too-I just thought I'd put the idea out there.Smile [:)]

Your thoughts please!

 

 Hmmm You know there is a War in the Pacific and Guadalcanal build happening now that a lot of us are playing in.

Vietnam? May give Capt Bondo flash backs? I got to work with the We Were Soldiers fellows from the I'drang Valley while I was at Fort Hood. During the movie Premier and reunion. Was very I don't know the word for it.... Um Left me in an emotional awe meeting the real men.

1991 Gulf war?  Hmmmmm  You talk like that was old history now?  Seems like last week to me.

I'd like to throw in perhaps a Bombing Campaign over Europe idea. Everything from B-17's, Lancasters, Liberators, Stirlings and the other heavys to the Medium one's like the Hampdons and Marauders and the Escorts and maybe even a few enemy aces for thoose who like Nightfighters and are addicted to them fighter types. 

I know a few fellows that have Landcasters in the stash! LOL! 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:08 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

I'd like to throw in perhaps a Bombing Campaign over Europe idea. Everything from B-17's, Lancasters, Liberators, Stirlings and the other heavys to the Medium one's like the Hampdons and Marauders and the Escorts and maybe even a few enemy aces for thoose who like Nightfighters and are addicted to them fighter types. 

I know a few fellows that have Landcasters in the stash! LOL! 

I like this idea!  I have a Lancaster that I would like to build. Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Evil Herc on Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:24 PM

Thanks for the praises of the USMC!!!!

I was thinking a USMC build that would cover all Era's. We could still get our prop jobs in and for those who wish could do the fast movers or for those really wierd folks they could always build one of them whirly birds:a thousand parts spinning in close proxsimity of each other, pounding the air into submission & so ugly the earth actually repels them!!!

Just my My 2 cents [2c]

Kanichiwa-Jason

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Posted by Summit on Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:25 PM
 Daywalker wrote:
 sfcmac wrote:

I'd like to throw in perhaps a Bombing Campaign over Europe idea. Everything from B-17's, Lancasters, Liberators, Stirlings and the other heavys to the Medium one's like the Hampdons and Marauders and the Escorts and maybe even a few enemy aces for thoose who like Nightfighters and are addicted to them fighter types. 

I know a few fellows that have Landcasters in the stash! LOL! 

I like this idea!  I have a Lancaster that I would like to build. Approve [^]

Yeah I like the sounds of this idea myself Thumbs Up [tup]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 10:07 PM

I'm up for whatever the masses votes for as I KNOW I will still be working on my Buccaneer, so Frank I know exactlly how you feel mate!! Like all the ideas coming out though!! Suggestion CAG? Include the IJN in the Pacific WWII FAA idea? have a few for that one I could eventually get to!! 1/72 Kate and Zero with PE!!!

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Andy!!!!!!!! Grab a cleanish mug and join us in th emess for some rum or rum like substance!!!!!!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 10:08 PM

I like the Bombers in Europe thing best, I can see a Tamiya Lanc in my future too.  Maybe it should be Lancaster Only?Evil [}:)]

As I had promised during one of my sotted binges a Coastal Command Tamiya T Mk.X Beaufighter is under way.  I started this yesterday evening.  I'm only adding PE seatbelts, and separating the tail siufaces, it's out of the box otherwise.  There seems to be a consensus that this airplane was painted in the temperate sea scheme and not Extra Dark Sea Grey uppers only as the painting guide shows, so I'm doing the former scheme.  This is a real nice kit as for fit, only one spot of filler so far, at the base of the fin.  You can see it in the picture with the tail surfaces cut up.  The wings are on already, and there is no fuller there  either, the wing snaps into place.  I may have to add a spot on the left rear underside, but maybe not, have to let the glue settle first.  I have a feeling this one may not take as long as the Lindberg Turner Special!

 

 

 

 

 

John

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, December 3, 2009 10:28 PM

The Bombers in Europe theme would give me a chance to build that AM B-25 that's been collecting dust on my shelves since I bought it. Whistling [:-^]

 

Nice looking Mk.X John! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, December 3, 2009 11:17 PM

Hey John, I've always wondered- wots that insulated pipe thingamajiggie? My Beau expert never paid attention to it when he was sleeping on the cabin floor. Here's a good Beau schemie:

I'll take what's handed to me, except there's already Darsons W-in-P going on. And it's official- helicopters and I do not agree. My first is gonna be my last. Too fussy.

I guess I'm inclined to not mess with success, and switch back to USN, which would include USMC of course.

I've been really depressed lately, I'm beginning to wonder if I need to switch hobbies for a while. Or at least subjects. I'm going to do a batch of 1/72 armor and see if that helps...

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Posted by Summit on Thursday, December 3, 2009 11:44 PM

Bondo -  I was feeling the same way a while back while working on aircraft models. I built a Mustang Gt-350 and a ship and felt a whole lot better. Sometimes you need to shake the drink not swirl it.. I am Back to building the wingy things and plan on building another ship build in January sometime..

How about one of those re~issues of the old Aurora Monsters ? That might be fun for you as you appreciate the older subjects..

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, December 4, 2009 12:23 AM

I think the pipe is for cabin heat, Bill.  That is a good scheme, maybe I'll use it on a Mk VI I also have, it's in a black night fighter scheme and I don't like it so well.

I mix up what I build, I have a 1/32 Palmer 32 Cadillac and a 1/72 Dodge GI ambulance (I hear they were called meat wagons in the day) under way and finished the Tamiya 42 Ford not long ago, done in civvy black.   You've been building some hard ones lately, maybe you ought to do a Tamiya Beaufighter to get some relief, and straight out of the box like I'm doing this one.  Then again, maybe you got shorted on your rum ration!  Or all those girls that keep messing up my naps aren't visiting you next?

John

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Posted by -Neu- on Friday, December 4, 2009 1:34 AM
 TANGO 1 wrote:
1.Pacific WWII -FAA, RCN, RAN, USN, USMC

 2.Vietnam-USN, USMC, RAN

 3.1991 Gulf War-  FAA, USN, USMC, RAN, RCN, FN



Permission to speak freely?

I like #2; but why not expand it to the early Cold War.. 1945~1973? Korea, Suez, Malaya, the Defence of Taiwan and Indochina/Vietnam opens up a number interesting possibilities, that isn't too broad or are covered by any of the present group builds. The FN, FAA, RCN, RAN and the USN would all be available. You could build Corsairs in the Suez or Korea, Skyraiders in Korea or Vietnam, ect.

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Posted by razordws on Friday, December 4, 2009 1:58 AM

I've also got a Lancaster in my stash that has been calling my name far too long.  Maybe we need a seperate GB?  We'll let the CAG have the final say I imagine.  Captain [4:-)]

Bondo Bill, sometimes I need to step away from the bench.  Usually it only takes a couple of weeks or a month tops to get the desire back again.   I know you have several big ones (models... you gutter dwellers) on the bench and that can really you drag you down.  Taking a break and hitting some nice quick 1/72 armor builds sounds like a great idea.  Might have to pull one out myself here soon with that Snowberry staring me in the face everytime I go over to the bench. 

Dave

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, December 4, 2009 2:12 AM
 jeaton01 wrote:

I think the pipe is for cabin heat, Bill.  That is a good scheme, maybe I'll use it on a Mk VI I also have, it's in a black night fighter scheme and I don't like it so well.

The box like shape on the front of that bulky aft of the crew acces and forward of the ammo boxes seems to me to be the wing spar. If so, the riser aft of that could be from the engines. Tey're aircooled though, and the exhaust collector is forward of the cylinder banks, so it's not clear to me how that would work. That USAAF Beaus didn't have it. I've got a bunch of interior shots, mostly showing the RO station, and taint there. Of course, in Tunisia....

It's a good story. My Father-in-law enlisted in the Army 12/8/41 with his brother. He came from pretty simple means and had helped his mom raise two littler kids on the farm all through the depression. He wanted to be a photographer which was his job in the world, but his intelligence got him a crew mechanic, crew chief and eventually Flying Sergeant gig. When I first met him oh so many moons ago, we became good friends and he told me, of all the people in his family, his war stories for the first time. I've got days worth of the stuff, probably every week he was in.

After a year of various adventures stateside, including bailing out of a P-70 over the everglades, he went over with the 314. They went to North Africa pdq and were issued Beaufighters. He had the same pilot as from the beginning all the way through until that guy got a P-47 in 1944 and later got killed. 

He loved the Bristol. One big reason was that the circumstances and mission gave him a bunch of stick time, which is what I gather all pilots live for. Their usual mission was out at twilight, 4 hours up to Italy and 4 hours back. When he first had a ride, they'd all take turns flying because the aircraft was easy to move around in (by the way where's the door in that partition?) and one could sack out on the floor. Of course in the combat area the pilot took over. 

He was fond of the Hercules. Big powerful engine. Easy to work on and he also became an airframe specialist. He got  the attention of the Squadron commander because he figured out a way to rig up B-25 instrument lights, which are on a stalk on the control stick I believe, in lieu of the glowing dials, which really didn't work. And he was the first crew chief to check out the control wire tensioning kit, which he got good at. He was a real stick and rudder man and would have been a pilot if he'd had a dad that had gotten him through high school and into college.

But as a photographer he took thousands of photos and still has the negatives. Unfortunately my somewhat unfocused brother-in-law has them in a box in his house and I'll never see them.

But I've got a big pile of homade prints, hence that scan.

I asked him one time where his leather jacket was. "Left it in a garbage can in Sardinia. The parka was warmer".

He doesn't know what the colors are on those Beaus, because he's color blind, and because he never bothered to think about it. I build a Tammie for him using the Temperate scheme as I figured lend lease- who knows. But in reality it could have been RAF Cactus Airforce or green/earth.

I may crack out the Zvezda Borodino this week and give her a go.

 

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Friday, December 4, 2009 4:25 AM

Andy Sign - Welcome [#welcome] aboard, I'm sure you will have fun.

Jason congrats on your promotion, well done.

Great story Bondo, always good to hear all this history. As regards being a little down at the minute I'd step away for a while do something a little different and then the fun will soon come back, a change is as good as a rest as they say Smile [:)].

CAG, I'm more than happy to go with what ever theme is chosen, I also have a Lancaster in my stash which given the tiny size of my stash seems a tremendous stroke of luck! However I think we shouldnt move to far away from the Fleet aspect of the GB?

Roy, any joy with your Corsair?

Nice work on the beaufighter John, keep the pictures coming.

Cheers everyone...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Antipodean Andy on Friday, December 4, 2009 5:53 AM

Thanks for the welcome, guys.  I'm still cleaning out the garage for the modelling 'hole' so no idea when I'll start building but as soon as possible, I hope.  I'm returning to work soon, all going well, so I'll probably hold off to the new year.  At least I'll have the finance side of things sorted ... assuming I don't have to shout too many rounds with you lot.

You blokes really know how to tie one on.  The vomit was an inch deep in places.  I personally suspect the CAG as he seems to have lost weight but I'm afraid I can't prove it.  Found a mug that was fortunately well above floor level and will help myself if that's okay.

Saw a heap of kits today in a toy store.  Many 1/48 Tamiya kits around the $30 mark (on special) so I got rather excited when I found a Swordfish/Holy Grail.  However, its $99 price tag had me reeling and reaching for a tot of the good stuff.  Ridiculous.  Didn't buy anything but I can see a path to adding to my meagre, and dated, stash.

John, the Beau is one of my all time favourites.  I'm really looking forward to further progress.  Any specific squadron markings you've decided on?

For next year's GB, the Cold War sounds good but I'm easy ... and lacking in seniority so whatever you blokes decide.  European bombers - I love my RAF twins so...

Bondoman, great read, mate.  A real shame you can't see the pics your family member has.  I'm about to review Brick Eisel's Beaufighters In The Night.  I reckon he would have loved to have seen those photos.

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