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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:24 PM

Admiral's Barge progress:

This is kit No. 61020, probably an original release.  61021 was an early Dambusters release.  The latest releases are in grey plastic and have both the early and later bombardier's perspex, the earlier kits have only the shallower early model type.  The early kit has one style of propeller, the later kit has two styles.  There were also some changes to the engine nacelles in the later kits.  61105 is a later B Mk I/III kit.  If you want to see all the kit parts they are here on my website:

http://www.yolo.net/%7Ejeaton/mymodels/lanc/1lanc/1lanc.html

 

 

I know, I already posted this picture, but given the average attention span and volume of grog around here, who's to know?  This is the airplane the model will be built as, an early B Mk. I, some say it was the most  photographed Lancaster.  It was the aircraft used to make the airplane known to the British public in WW II.    It was originally laid down as one of 200 Manchesters but was completed as a Lancaster instead.  R5689 went to 50 Squadron on 22 June 1942.  It took part in many key operations, bombing Saarbrucken, Dussldorf, Le Havre, Essen and Wilhelmshaven.  On its last run, it left Swinderby, England, at 19h15 on 18 September 1942 on a mine-laying operation.  It crash landed at Thurlby, Lincolnshire, after a double engine failure on short approach.  The pilot, Gp Capt Hugh Everitt, not only survived the war but lived to be 94 and was highly decorated, DSO, DFC and Bar, CBE, OBE.  Sadly, one crewmember did not survive the crash, Sgt J R Gibbons, RCAF, from Brantford Ontario.

 

Windows will be unpainted on this early example.  The strips fit well and were attached using  Testors tube glue in the square bottle, and  white glue.  The windows were coated on the inside with Future.  On the  outside they were also coated, but also the gaps left between the windows and the fuselage molding were filled with Future.  The navigator's station is in the foreground.  The Montex mask set only supplied masks for one side of the windows so I cut more with a Silhouette Cameo vinyl cutter to mask the inside face of the windows.  Lancasters had windows because the original Manchester design called for a secondary transport role.

 

 

The decision was taken to  paint the interior  up to the bombardier's station RAF Interior Green, as was the case with early Lancasters built by Avro at Manchester.  It seems unclear exactly when the changeover to black back to the main spar cover  happened.  It is said that  black was applied in that area during the service life of many Lancasters. 

 

 

There are 11 parts in each main landing gear strut.   Since it would be easier to paint with the parts to be flat black separate from the silver and semigloss black parts, the struts were not glued to the upper bulkhead parts until after painting.  The upper parts were used as jigs while assembling the struts.  The front mounting bulkhead had to be taped in place, but the rear fit snug enough to stay in place.

 

 

The second step, the two parts of the strut assembly glued together.  The strut closest in the photo must be assembled exactly straight.  The key and slot in that area is a little loose so care must be taken.

 

 

Lastly, the four links across the strut break point are installed.  This may be the first kit in black plastic I have done, and the color does not lend itself to seeing details.

 

 

 Another view of the four links across the strut break point.  These are overcenter springs.

 

 

 The bulkheads assembled to the ribs.

 

 

 

Alclad 101 Aluminum and Tamiya X-18 semi-gloss black on the strut assembly, Testors enamel flat black on the bulkhead assembly.  Some masking involved here on the struts.

 

 

 Unfortunately it is necessary to install the landing gear in the wing before the nacelles can be fit.  The wing fit to the fuselage is nice, so the plan is to build and paint the fuselage and wings as separate units and do the wing join last.  The wings halves were not trouble free to join.  While the trailing edges joined up well, the leading edges of both wings had a pronounced step that had to be sanded to fair in.  It took several attempts to get the seam to disappear using thin CA after the first sanding. This work was done before the landing gear was installed.  A gentle reminder that this is a mid-70's kit.

 

 

An outer nacelle from the Belcher bits set.  A band saw was used to remove the pour plug (sorry, Mike, but it worked well if a bit scary), leaving the remaining stepped down area that fits snugly in the modified nacelles (thanks, Mike Belcher!)

 

 

The modification of the nacelles is not difficult.  The cut is aligned with the existing straight surface that would join the engine cowl side panels of the kit parts. The cut was made a little ahead of where it should be using sprue nippers, and sanded to final shape, test fitting as the fit got close.

 

 

The test fit of an inner nacelle and engine prior to landing gear installation.  An outer engine with the smaller side air intake is shown here, the fit to the nacelle is the same.  Hopefully an inner engine will be used for this position in the final assembly.

 

 

With the landing gear installed, a test fit showed that  the rear gear bulkhead interfered with the aft end of the nacelle, not allowing the nacelle to rest far enough forward or to be close enough to the wing at the aft end.  The gear bulkhead was sanded down a bit and the alignment dogs on the inside of the aft end of the nacelle were removed.  This allowed the nacelle to fit properly.  The same correction was needed on both wings.

 

 

The final fit looks good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 1:38 PM

Dave, it's the Tamiya 1/48 kit, first edition.

John, this airplane only lasted about a year so I guess they dirtied up pretty fast.  It was first laid down as a Manchester but was completed as a Lancaster.  It was the particular Lancaster used to publicly announce the type and supposedly is the most photographed Lanc. 

John

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Posted by dwsrazor on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 11:11 PM

Great looking subject.  I'll be watching.

Which kit is it?

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 7:02 PM
Aye Admiral. That sure is weathered and beaten

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:10 AM

Well wrought, Davey boy, well wrought.

Rations, yeah rations.  Mayhap they all got lost on the way, cause nuthin showed up.  Or did it all go yer way!??  I'm sure you would never allow that!  Yes, be'in Admiral can sumtimes add a touch a paranoya.  Most sure the sots drank it all up and lost there way amid a bottle and a melon.

Since there was no grog, the admiralness bethought to begin progress on the new Admiral's barge, so Here be it with the intended glorious scheme.

 

 

John

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Posted by dwsrazor on Friday, January 20, 2017 10:49 PM

Aye Aye Admiral!  These have just been completed in the last month or so.

Airfix 1/72 Typhoon with Aviology decals

Hasegawa 1/72 Mosquito Mk. IV

 

Now you said something about rations... Propeller

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, January 20, 2017 6:38 PM

All rrrigghhttt! It's Friday, and I'm sure all you laddies are runnin' fer the Admiral's hatch with all that Rum.  Funny, ain't heard any a yer yetSurprise

This was built for the FSM New Years Resolution group build, but it can certainly fit here.  Airfix 1/48 Meteor F.8.  Then two Tamiya Meteors, an F.1 and an F.3, both done in December 2016.

Any you laddies got somethin' built recently, FAA or RAF, they won't be no serious repecussions if yer put some up here.

 

 

John

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Posted by tonka on Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:53 AM

jeaton01

Well, Tonka, looks like you won't have to be keelhauled after all, Laddie!  Welcome aboard, and don't forget my weekly rum rations, outside the door of my cabin Friday even'n will be fine.

 

Good thing no keelhauling! Those dang barnacles hurt!! Rum on the way!

Started on the lil critter.

Lots of rivets, Pics to come.

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:26 AM

Well, Tonka, looks like you won't have to be keelhauled after all, Laddie!  Welcome aboard, and don't forget my weekly rum rations, outside the door of my cabin Friday even'n will be fine.

John

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Posted by tonka on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:07 PM

How about with this one? Right roundels?

Its the OLD airfix kit, simple but first one I came to in stash from 'across the pond'

Its so old it has a Sears price tag on it for 99 cents!

 

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Posted by dwsrazor on Saturday, January 7, 2017 4:35 PM

Thanks for the welcome back Admiral and for not making me walk the plank for me abcence.  I just finished a pair of RAF types so will pull out something FAA next.  Either a Helcat with the British Pacific fleet or a String bag.  One of the two.

 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:43 PM

jeaton01

 

 
tempestjohnny
I've got this in the que to build a Sea Harrier. Funny thing it's the only FAA kit in my stash

 

John, as you know doubt remember the subject alternates between FAA and RAF, and since no one can remember by now where we are either one is fine.  I'm doing a Tamiya Lancaster.  When we get enough guys having fun we can get back into that rotation, eh?

 

Well then. We have Harriers Jaguars Mosquitoes Beaufighters Spitfires Hurricanes and Tornadoes to choose from

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:41 PM

tonka
My bust I saw pics of US marked aircraft, must have been from first or second year of GB. I'll find another, got to be a Sea Fury in stash.
 

Bust indeed!Surprise

John

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Posted by tonka on Thursday, January 5, 2017 4:49 PM
My bust I saw pics of US marked aircraft, must have been from first or second year of GB. I'll find another, got to be a Sea Fury in stash.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, January 5, 2017 3:59 PM

tonka

 

I just looked for first one in stash and this jumped out. Its the AMT 1/520 USS Akron/Macon. Not sure which version I will build. Expect to start early next week.

USS Akron

 

 
Wrong fleet, Matey, it's got to have one of these:
 
 

John

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:03 PM

I still haven't forgotten my Stingbag.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:56 AM

tempestjohnny
I've got this in the que to build a Sea Harrier. Funny thing it's the only FAA kit in my stash

John, as you know doubt remember the subject alternates between FAA and RAF, and since no one can remember by now where we are either one is fine.  I'm doing a Tamiya Lancaster.  When we get enough guys having fun we can get back into that rotation, eh?

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by tonka on Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:54 AM

jeaton01
 
tonka

So this build us still going? I'd like to get in. Just moved and finishing up new hobby room, so need something to build . Have way too many USMC aircraft in stash anyway/ Will be nice to actually finish a GB!

 

They'll be no teasin' here, gitcher brogans in step and post pichers a yer kit!

 

I just looked for first one in stash and this jumped out. Its the AMT 1/520 USS Akron/Macon. Not sure which version I will build. Expect to start early next week.

USS Akron

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:05 AM

tonka

So this build us still going? I'd like to get in. Just moved and finishing up new hobby room, so need something to build . Have way too many USMC aircraft in stash anyway/ Will be nice to actually finish a GB!

They'll be no teasin' here, gitcher brogans in step and post pichers a yer kit!

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:54 AM
I've got this in the que to build a Sea Harrier. Funny thing it's the only FAA kit in my stash

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 11:13 PM

Hi, Dave!  Is it still your fault?

I've been working on and off to relight the spark here, hope you will join in.

John

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Posted by tonka on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:42 PM

So this build us still going? I'd like to get in. Just moved and finishing up new hobby room, so need something to build . Have way too many USMC aircraft in stash anyway/ Will be nice to actually finish a GB!

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Posted by dwsrazor on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:12 AM

Well well well...  Seems there are still a few scurvy types still in action.  I'll have to dig something out of the stash for this if I'm not hung for going AWOL first.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:07 AM

stikpusher

And one of these days in the coming year I'll finish up the Shar I entered into this GB and perhaps start another one of the many FAA subjects that I have in my stash...

 

No time better'n right now, Stik!

John

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:05 AM

GMorrison

 

 
jeaton01

Well, it appears I've found one of yer scurvy bunch....

BACK TO THE SHIP!!!  Alll a' yer!!

 

 

 

Care to essplane thesymbolism of that split open melon and wine bottle neck?

 

Hell, Bondo got keelhauled by General Kidwell for less'n that!!!

 



Sailors, always suckers for such simple attention getting devices!

John

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:27 AM

And one of these days in the coming year I'll finish up the Shar I entered into this GB and perhaps start another one of the many FAA subjects that I have in my stash...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:25 AM

Daniel Ficke

Will there be a 2017 GB for this one? If so I would like to join.

 

This GB never ends... Enlist Now!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:19 PM

jeaton01

Well, it appears I've found one of yer scurvy bunch....

BACK TO THE SHIP!!!  Alll a' yer!!

 

Care to essplane thesymbolism of that split open melon and wine bottle neck?

Hell, Bondo got keelhauled by General Kidwell for less'n that!!!

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:04 PM

Only 39 more replies needed to get to 11K.

Admiral, I do have that ECM Sea Venom I bought at Riverside Hobbies...

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:02 PM

Funny thing, my wife was out drinking with Captain Bondoman, and he was whining about getting out his 1/400 "Lusty"...

She wasn't impressed and took away his beer.

 

Arrgh!

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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