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BomberGruppe GB - 2007 (Luftwaffe Bombers)

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, July 16, 2007 5:30 PM
I've never tried to control the air flow on the airbrush itself, I have a regulator and water trap between the air compressor hose and the airbrush hose.  Before that I used a regulator on the air compressor itself but it wasn't precise enough.  Without a regulator in line like I have now, there was a surge in air before the pressure became constant and that caused problems.  The problem with using the airbrush needle valve to control air flow is that it always will have a big pressure head behind it when you first open it.  That would be really hard to control.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Princeton, North Carolina
Posted by ModelMan8 on Monday, July 16, 2007 1:21 PM

I have a Paasche VSR90.  I just tried to spray MM Black Acrylic through it and I think I have the pressure to high.  The last time I used I completely broke it down and cleaned it and I just cleaned it again after the black.  As for adjusting the airflow the only thing there is, is a little pin that is cone shaped.  You just twist it down for more pressure and up for less.  It is really hard to get it just right.  It has a seperate washer shaped ring to stop it from going down, so you have to adjust that too.  I am a little nervous around it because there is no safety catch or anything, so if you try to adjust it while it is on it can shoot the pin from the top..bad experience..  So if I start thinning it more and turn down the pressure, do you think that might do the trick?

Thanks,

Chris

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, July 16, 2007 1:06 PM

Chris, I am not really sure, but I suspect you need to thin your paint a fair amount more.  Also, check to see if paint is accumulating in the nozzle, on the outside where it leaves the orifice.  That happens sometimes on my Badgers with some colors.  It will accumulate there and then when it gets carried to the model it will make a splatter.

As for air pressure, since you don't have a gauge, start from the low side and gradually increase the flow until you get just enough for the paint to flow.  The thinner your paint is the less air pressure you need.  Which air brush are you using?

Another thing that can change the air flow you need is if paint has accumulated inside the air brush.  If even the slightest amount of paint has built up there it can restrict the path and increase the air needed, and this is bad also because it will foul up the spray pattern.  I run lacquer thinner through my airbrush frequently to avoid that.  Very occaisionally I will disassemble the nozzle and soak it in lacquer thinner, and wipe down the needle.  As I have learned to spray with lower pressures and thinner paint I have had less need to do that, and I try to avoid it because those parts are very delicate and easy to damage.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Princeton, North Carolina
Posted by ModelMan8 on Monday, July 16, 2007 9:24 AM

Dave the CP looks really good.Thumbs Up [tup]  Happy B-Day [bday]to yeti, can't wait to see the kit!! 

As for me I have stripped the paint off of the Stuka, and I have one question: I use polyscale paint, or at least that is the only brand that the LHS had for my colors, When I spray it with my new airbrush it is reall speckeld, and I managed to put a good coat on the bottom but I am not sure why it is speckly.  I sprayed it before and it worked fine, I shook and Stirred it and it still did not work.  My compressor does not have a gauge on it and I just test the psi on my hand to see how good it works, any ideas about what to do?  Repainting and decals are all that is left on the Stuka, and I am working on a Spit and a P-38 right now.

Chris

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Monday, July 16, 2007 8:54 AM

I figured it's about time I checked in here to see what has been going on.  Eveyone still plugging away I see.Smile [:)]

Nice'pit Dave and a big HAPPY B'DAY to yeti.

Marc  

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:49 PM

That's quite a birthday present, yeti!

Happy B-Day [bday] by the way!  

Take your time with the kit...I hear it can be built into a real winner. KingTHad and Aggiman showed us that it's more than just a rumor, too.  I look forward to seeing what you do with it.

 

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  • From: Wayzata, MN
Posted by yeti0010 on Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:27 PM
Well I got my Ju 88A-4 today for  my Birthday.  I will begin building tomorrow after I get my driving permit.
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Posted by mucker on Friday, July 13, 2007 8:36 AM
 TryintoModel wrote:

Mucker - Thanks for the heads up.  I didn't realize there would be a season 2.  I have my Tivo set to record all the shows but I've been thinking they would never have some new ones.  Thanks.

Dave:

Check out the History Channel's website...they have a rundown of the episodes for the upcoming season...looks to be another good one.

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Posted by TryintoModel on Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:02 PM

Mucker - Thanks for the heads up.  I didn't realize there would be a season 2.  I have my Tivo set to record all the shows but I've been thinking they would never have some new ones.  Thanks.

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:23 AM
 mucker wrote:

Tryinto Model's Ju-88 is coming along nicely. I know Carlos and Jason are in the moving process (including the house hunting). So how is everyone doing out there?

Just as a heads up to those of you who are able to get the show, "Dogfights" season 2 begins tomorrow (Friday) at 9 PM EST, 8 PM CST on the History Channel. Get the TiVo's ready...

I'll be starting my JU 88A4 soon, just wrapping up three other builds which should all be finished within a few days. 

Thanks for the heads up on Dogfights season 2.  I had the DVR set to record all the new episodes last year, but I'll double check my timers when I get home tonight, wouldn't want to miss any.  Cool [8D]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:19 AM

Tryinto Model's Ju-88 is coming along nicely. I know Carlos and Jason are in the moving process (including the house hunting). So how is everyone doing out there?

Just as a heads up to those of you who are able to get the show, "Dogfights" season 2 begins tomorrow (Friday) at 9 PM EST, 8 PM CST on the History Channel. Get the TiVo's ready...

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Posted by TryintoModel on Sunday, July 8, 2007 12:35 PM

Thanks for the comments guys, I appreciate it. 

Mucker - That's straight OOB.  It's the Pro-Modeler Ju-88C-6.  The cockpit had really nice detail.  There's no panel between the two seats.  At least the kit didn't have one.  After you said that, I ran to check the instructions, lol. 

The only additional things I added since that picture was some simple painted tape seatbelts and the gunsight reflector.  I lost the original gunsight reflector, but my imagination was actually working today and I used the plasitic covering from the package my last hobby knife came in (I hope that description makes sense).  I just cut a small square and it made a perfect reflector, strong but thin and clear.  Maybe someone else has thought of that before, but I was surprised I thought of something like that that worked real well on my own.  Propeller [8-]

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Sunday, July 8, 2007 11:44 AM

Wow, The level of detail in there is fantastic. Awesome job. As for the ejector mark. I think someone would be pretty anal to point that out and as you say, once the belts are in, your cooking.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Sunday, July 8, 2007 10:09 AM

Dave: Great detail in the pit there...wow! Don't tell me that's OOB...that has to be resin. There's a ton of detail packed in there.

I know whatyou mean about the ejector marks...quite oftfen my post-build pictures reveal things I couldn't see with my eye. Doh!

Quick question: Does something like a panel gap between the two headrests in the cockpit?

Thanks for bring this this GB back to page 1!

 

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    November 2003
Posted by TryintoModel on Sunday, July 8, 2007 9:25 AM

Well, I think it's time to bring this GB back to the first page!  Here is my progress on my Ju-88C-6.  Disregard the ejection mold on the seat....  I got some ideas on how to fix that.  I don't know how I overlooked it.  Oh well, regardless of how I fix it, after I get the seatbelts in there and you stare through that greenhouse canopy, I don't think anyone will notice.  Big Smile [:D]

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Monday, July 2, 2007 6:34 PM

Very nice John.  Looks terrific and a fine additioon to the shelf. 

And I loved the line about you and the modle coming to a truceLaugh [(-D]

Marc  

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, July 2, 2007 4:58 PM

Top marks. Super looking job on one of the best looking Axis bombers, in my opinion. And it was resin? Bow [bow]

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, July 2, 2007 12:43 PM
Very nice job John!
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Posted by espins1 on Monday, July 2, 2007 11:01 AM

Nicely done John!  Your camo and finish look superb, and the canopy masking job you did was awesome!  You can be proud of this one!  Cool [8D] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 10:48 PM

As usual, you guys are all too kind.  Thanks.  I may not be up for another resin kit right away, but it wasn't too scary.  But then again, it was a little scary. 

I look forward to seeing some more of the rest of the builds done on this group build, there are some nice ones already finished, and as we have seen there are more on the way.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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    September 2004
  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:25 PM
Awesome work John!!! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]  She came out very nicely in the end

Dave

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Sunday, July 1, 2007 5:50 PM

John: It came out well! The splinter camo is very sooth and the lines ofthe 388 are unmitakably Luftwaffe. You were right on, regarding the canopy...you really masked it well. I'd love to add a 388 to my collection some day, but I still don't know if I'm ready for resin.

I definately hope you post it over on the Aircraft forum.

Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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  • From: Cherry valley il.
Posted by invertman on Sunday, July 1, 2007 5:46 PM

john,

you did a great job on your 388.

if the condor comes out half as good i'll be proud of it.

looks awsome.

 

jason

  if you want permission for a test flight.... the answer is "no".

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 5:19 PM

The Ju-388K is officially as done as it is going to get for the present.  I never finish a model, we just reach a truce at some point.  Sharp eyes will note that something looks slightly odd about the engine air inlets, I had already taken the photos and put the model in the display cabinet by the time I realized I had forgotten to darken up those suckers so Corel did the job.  No other places got such treatment.  The truth is this model has all of its little bitty resin thingies hanging out now, and I being a clumsy oaf and wanting to get on to my 1/32 K5054, well, it is staying in the display cabinet until I get more ambition and whatever else.  It's the first all resin kit I've built, and while such a kit does have its advantages, handling the finished model is not one of them.  It came out well, considering my abilities and I am happy to have a model of the Ju-388 in my collection.  The canopy area was a particular area of concern, but it seems to look fine.  The cockpit is kind of the focal point of the airplane with all that glass and framing.

I oversprayed the model with a bit of light grey mixed with Tamiya flat base and Future, and then did a little dirtying up aft of the exhaust (Tamiya Smoke) and cowl flaps with pastels.  After that I overcoated the whole thing with Testors flat.  I think next time I will add light grey or white to the camouflage colors, because I didn't really get the fading I wanted this way, and it was too scary to push it any farther.  My experiments were telling me that only a little bit more light grey in the mixture made for too much.  I didn't do any washes as the panel lines seem to have plenty of emphasis, and I didn't do any chipping because none of the pictures I've found of the Ju-388's really showed any aluminum or other colors peeking out.  Perhaps they were not too used by the time they had no more gas to fly on.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Sunday, July 1, 2007 5:18 PM
Those who have built the Dragon kit mostly comment on how nice the detail is. THe fit may not be as perfect at a Tamiya or Hasegawa kit, but don't let that scare you. It's not a BAD kit...just need some dry fitting and "touch up" before assembly. I can't wait to see how you do on it.

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  • From: Wayzata, MN
Posted by yeti0010 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 4:23 PM

I got the A-4 Schnell Bomber

This will be my first Pro Modeler/DML kit so I'm a little nervous about the fit.  I have only built tamiya/hesegawa kits in the resent past

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Posted by mucker on Sunday, July 1, 2007 3:48 PM
Yeti: Which version did you get? The A? I'll make the change.

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  • From: Wayzata, MN
Posted by yeti0010 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 12:53 PM
well finally a month after school let out I have some time.  to many projects.  (or not enough depending on how you look at it)  I will be switching from the 388 to Pro Modelers 88.  I found a cheap one on ebay.  I dont have it yet but I will soon.
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Posted by invertman on Sunday, July 1, 2007 12:39 PM

hey guys,

well the condor is progressing.

got the bomb bay done,now im working on the landing gear.

man...those struts have very delicate parts,i almost broke a couple cutting them off the

sprue. hope this thing never takes a dive off the shelf!!!

i will post some pics this week as i'm on vacation........woo hoo.....!!!!

 

  if you want permission for a test flight.... the answer is "no".

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Sunday, July 1, 2007 12:09 PM

Shock [:O] We seem to have slipped to the 2nd page!

I know...the dog days of summer are here. My cuurent build is dragging on...

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