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SPITFIRE GROUP BUILD 2007-2008

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  • Member since
    August 2007
  • From: Southeast Wisconsin
Posted by MaxSheridan on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:46 PM
Hi Frank! I'm about as far SE as you can get.......Kenosha. I've noticed there's a few people from WI on the boards. Probably has something to do with the mag being from WI.Big Smile [:D]

-Mark

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 22, 2007 11:06 PM
Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Max!  Always nice to see a "local" around.  I see you're in "Southeast WI", and I am in "South central WI".  Whereabouts are you from?

Frank 

 

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Posted by MaxSheridan on Monday, October 22, 2007 10:58 PM

Since theres no deadline to join this GB, count me in!Big Smile [:D] I had an awesome find at one of my LHSs a couple weeks ago. I picked up a kit called "Wings of Fame: Allied fighter aviation in Europe" by ICM for $28 and change. This kit includes not one.....not two.....not three.....but four, count 'em four 1/48 scale complete kits. One of them just happens to be....you guessed it....a Spitfire!Big Smile [:D] A Mk VII to be exact. Too cool!

The others are: Yak-7DI/Yak-9(early), Mig 3, and a P-51B Mustang.

The worst things I could find about ICM seem to be their decals. Does anybody have a good idea where I could find an unusual set in AM decals? I want to get away from OOB, but I figure I'll take baby steps and use AM decals for now.Smile [:)]

Thanks all! There are some awesome builds on this thread. Bow [bow] I hope to be able to build to the level of the people here someday.

Sorry for rambling on....I must be getting tiredZzz [zzz]!

-Mark

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 22, 2007 1:58 PM
Thanks my friend!  I like the softer edge on it, better than I did on my Mk.I.  She's slowly getting there, but I can't wait to see her all dressed up! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, October 22, 2007 1:35 PM
Good work on the camo Frank.Thumbs Up [tup] You've got a very nice edge on that camo, you did a great job on the masking up.
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 22, 2007 10:34 AM
Thanks Greg!  I used Gunze acrylics on it.

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Monday, October 22, 2007 10:32 AM

nice paint job !

did you use enamels or acrylics ? 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 22, 2007 9:29 AM

Stayed up REALLY late last night working on my Mk.46.  I finally managed to finish the camo on it, and now just have to wait a lil' while before putting on the clear.  Here she is, the gray really looks blue in the photos but it really is a dark gray.

Frank 

 

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  • From: Castro Valley.CA
Posted by TheLastPriest on Friday, October 19, 2007 9:55 PM
looks good to me man! Something to be said about modifying the part yourself over buying AM. I ran into the same question while building mine, after opening them up with a dremel I felt that even though the AM part may look a little better I was quite happy with my work.

It is only the intellect that keeps me sane; perhaps this makes me overvalue intellect against feeling

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Friday, October 19, 2007 9:43 PM

What do you think ? Should I leave the exhaus as it is or replace it with AM

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:37 PM

Frank,

more infor for you over on FAA GB.Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Wink [;)]Pirate [oX)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:35 PM
 darson wrote:

I was having a look at some shots from the Tokyo Toy Fair when I came upon this

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/report/news2.htm

Have a look at the third item from the top, it features the Tamiya Spitfire packed up with ICM's very nice RAF crew figures and features the same Donald Duck markings that Greg is currently doing. I will definitely be picking up a couple of those.

Cheers

Well spotted! Now thats another kit I have to buy!Big Smile [:D]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:42 AM

Gents, I have a querry for you...

I am in the process of painting my Seafire Mk.46, and am not sure of the colors on it.  The Aeromaster decals I have (Thanks again Jon!) call for a two tone upper of dark slate gray and extra dark sea gray, but the only book I have on Griffon powered Spits mentions that they were painted extra dark sea gray on top with sky on the bottom.  The only photo I have is a black and white photo which seems to show a solid upper color, confirming what my Warbird Tech book states.  Are the Aeromaster color recomendations incorrect?  The Airfix instructions call out for a solid upper color of the dark gray.  This seems right to me, just wanted to get your opinions before I continue.  Right now the gray is on, waiting for a decision to paint the green or leave it all gray.  Thanks fellas! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:26 AM

I was having a look at some shots from the Tokyo Toy Fair when I came upon this

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/report/news2.htm

Have a look at the third item from the top, it features the Tamiya Spitfire packed up with ICM's very nice RAF crew figures and features the same Donald Duck markings that Greg is currently doing. I will definitely be picking up a couple of those.

Cheers

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  • From: Highland IN
Posted by TGregory on Monday, October 15, 2007 7:26 AM

Hi everyone, I have started the MKXIVc and will post progress when I find out where Jr. put the camera. The Academy kit is really nice, the quality is great, the parts are molded very thin where they should be. I am currently working on the office.

Tony

Tony Gregory
gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:35 PM

Thanks Darren ! I appreciate it and I hope this model will stands for itself. I have to wait for decals though Angry [:(!] ...

The picture is really great. Thanks 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:25 PM

I've just been going back through the last couple of pages and WOW, talk about some great looking builds.  Congrats to Chris & John for a couple of really nice looking Spits Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow].

Greg, your Mk.VB looks outstanding, I really like that Donald Duck nose art, it really brightens up the normal RAF camo scheme.  I'm really looking forward to the finished product.

I think I've posted this before but who cares, I think this is a great shot of a great pilot.

Cheers

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Sunday, October 14, 2007 7:59 AM

Thanks Darren. I appreciate your kind words about this Spit. Just trying to make it better than the previous one...

TLP: the panel lines were "highlighted" with water based black paint (with a bit of dishwashing soap - it is a MUST a drop or two) and very thin brush. Than when I take a drop of paint on the brush I just barely touch the panel line, letting the paint to take its own flow. When it stops, I move a new drop few milimiters further and do the same. Paint is just flowing itself within the panel line. Same with rivets. This way I do not have much paint to clean. To make effect of dirt I put it on some places, but I like the plane kind of clean with just a bit of dirt where it should be. Not too much.

and one more thing: this is done after the decals are sealed with a gloss coat. It is a last process before placing a flat coat. The whole thing is very nicely shown on many articles but I like Swanny's DVD (part 1) where this andother techniques are shown on P-40. I remember how I watched it for 4 hours streight when I got the copy. It saved me a lot (could be more if I get it earlier) with my learning process (I got back to the hobby just few months ago)

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:23 AM
 gzt wrote:

 

Greg,

superb work mate!Thumbs Up [tup] The wash is very impressive and your markings are very striking-I can't wait to see this one finished!

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:18 AM
 TheLastPriest wrote:

Finally some clear pictures of my work, my buddies dad finally sent some.  enjoy!.......or dont, im not really here to tell you what to do. If you look close you can see where I opened up the exhausts with a dremel.

 




 

Hey Chris,

Lovely work my friend.Thumbs Up [tup] The camo paint job looks very well done.Approve [^] Glad I got to have another look at this one.

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:12 AM
 jwb wrote:

Well- I finally finished my Hasegawa Mk. IXe, which I did as a c wing version. The kit comes with parts for both..... even a Mk. VIII can be built from the kit. It's finished in both the kit's decals- which were good, and Johnnie Johnson's markings from the ICM Mk. IX- which were awful.

I published a full build report here

This was a good kit- very detailed, good fit.... costs a bit more than the Airfix Mk. IX, but it's a much nicer and detailed kit overall.

 

Jon,

I've just caught up with the last few pages and WOW! Your Mk.IX is beautiful!Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

Very nice work indeed!Thumbs Up [tup] I just have to build me one of those......... Mischief [:-,]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TheLastPriest on Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:06 PM
that must be it, I must have just kept rubbing it off, the oils on my hands causing it not to stick. I mean that is generally where I grab on the aircraft when holding it

It is only the intellect that keeps me sane; perhaps this makes me overvalue intellect against feeling

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Saturday, October 13, 2007 2:44 PM
TLP, sometimes oil from your skin or other substances that your fingers have come in contact with can rub off onto the plastic and cause the paint not to stick.  Sometimes the plastic will already have stuff on it from the production process.  It's always a good idea to wash the plastic before you paint.

Dave

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  • From: Castro Valley.CA
Posted by TheLastPriest on Saturday, October 13, 2007 2:13 PM
I use model master enamels and the paint stuck for a day or so after airbrushing and then went through and brush painted it multiple times. I think maybe I needed to sand that area.

It is only the intellect that keeps me sane; perhaps this makes me overvalue intellect against feeling

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:38 PM

Gary: decals are made by Techmod Poland http://www.techmod.pl but they do not distribute retail from there. Some of them are available even through squadron but all of them are available from flightdecs.ca

You have to call them (phone is shown on their site) bacause the site does not show all the inventory he has. A nive guy, found me a lot of unusual decals including austrian swirl for my albatros DIII.

 I like to buy stuff from Jadar Hobby shipping sucks a bit but its 20% cheaper for most items anyway (due to VAT tax exemptfor out of EU purchaser).

here the decals for Vb

 

TLP:  I make sure during masking that the trailing adge is exposed for paint. I put a tape on the bottom side and trim it at the adge using scalpel (not exactoknife) a real scalpel. It does the trick to protect the bottom side and is not blocking paint from reaching the edge. I am using enamels what may help a bit as well.

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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  • From: Castro Valley.CA
Posted by TheLastPriest on Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:22 PM
Looking at GZT's pictures and then mine I have a question, how does everybody keep paint on the trailing edge of the wing? As you can tell in my photo's the trailing ends are white and I cant tell you how many times I repainted them, I even painted them right before clear coat to hopefully seal it down but had no luck, I just dont get it. hopefully one of you guys can shed some light onto the subject

It is only the intellect that keeps me sane; perhaps this makes me overvalue intellect against feeling

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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:15 PM
 gzt wrote:

 

where did you get those decales?

gary

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:14 AM
Reallly looks good, Greg.  As for the leg, at least we know why Donald is angry now. 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Friday, October 12, 2007 9:23 PM
 TheLastPriest wrote:

amazing work on those panel lines and rivits, how did you get such clear yet understated definition?

I did not do anything diferent than rest of you here Big Smile [:D], just trying to keep up. The panel lines and rivets (and fasteners) were just "washed" with water based dilluted black paint (with soap as Swanny said: its a must Big Smile [:D]). I just use a very fine brush and brushet the paint into panel lines - mostly using capillar effect to keep the kit clean. With Tamiya it works just great.

BTW: here is the "Angy Donald Duck" gefore I damaged his leg ..

 and now Angry [:(!]

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Friday, October 12, 2007 7:41 PM

Thank you Gentlemen ! :) however it is my second Spit (Mk IIa was first) and stil a lot of work. I had a dissaster with an "Angry Donald Duck". During my cleanup I damaged his leg and remove few "kills" from Jan's score board Angry [:(!]. I might just not seal the decals properly Angry [:(!] and now have to wait for new set of decals to fix this problem.

I hope this one will look better than the Mk IIa I made few months ago. 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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