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MiG Killers Group Build, 7/07 to 6/08

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:27 AM
hi guys the builds are looking great. i have finally gotten some paint on the f-16 its got is bottom coat on of fs-36270 on it all over. and then all that i have have to put on is its top coat  fs36118 and then future it. but before i do that i need a warm day darn southern weather its 80 one day then its 30s to 50s for a few days. then the fun begins all those darn decals. i should have it done in a few days i hope. 
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  • From: Seminole, OK
Posted by hwells on Monday, January 14, 2008 7:26 PM

Sorry I haven't posted in a while.  I kind of burned out on my F-4E, so I took a break from it and tried to a quick build, the Italeri 1/35 MTM Barchino, which turned into a major build due to trying to a bunch of filing and sanding, followed by some scratch building, followed by lots of cussing.  I'm on the home stretch with the 'quick build', so I should get my F-4E going again soon.

 Henry

'Go ahead, poke it with a stick, it ain't gonna bite'
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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:08 AM

Oh, I thought that maybe the squadron marked the aircraft that way.  The fact is, that Navy and Marine Corps squadrons don't always follow their "Paint and Insignia manuals" to the letter.

It's a great idea to give the model back to your friend.  I'm sure he'll enjoy it, and think of CDR Flynn when he sees it. 

Semper Fi,

Chris   

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:36 AM

Thanks for the comments Chris glad you liked it. You are correct about the kit. It is a total piece of junk. Had to rescribe most of it and nothing fit well on it. The canopies seemd like they were from another kit they were so off. Still trying to fix the front window. The plastic was also very strange, acted weird when sanded, it just felt funny. I have built Hasegawa kits with the Superscale decals before and they look fine but the NAVY on this one does look large, photos of the plane do show it large but I think the problem is the kit scale out. The tail decals also had to be trimmed back a little. The reason I had this kit in my stash was because it was given to me by a VF-31 pilot who was there during the Mig Kill. I built his aircraft last year and he gave me four F-4 kits as a gift for building his plane. This was the only 1/48 scale he gave me so this GB gave me the excuse to build another. I will be giving this one to him also as he was very close to CDR Flynn. As a side note, Cdr Flynn just resently passed away.

Steve

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 1:43 AM

Great work Steve, It looks great.  You're a brave man to build an AMT kit.  They'd be overpriced even if they're free.  But you were able to turn yours into a beautiful model.  Congrats. 

That squadron has some interesting markings.  The "Navy" on the side looks much larger than the usual Phantom markings.  I also like the bombcat on the side.   

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Monday, January 7, 2008 11:33 AM

Thanks a lot Rand. It was a tough kit to build but not too bad that it could be beaten into submission. I have a Eduard interior set but the kit was so bad that I could not put it in withouth major surgery. The interior was very basic and nothing like an J model.

Steve

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Monday, January 7, 2008 11:01 AM

Steve,

You did a FANTASTIC job and it's been a pleasure hosting this GB.

WELL DONE!

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Sunday, January 6, 2008 11:48 PM

Well fellow Mig Killer GB'rs here are some completed pics. Just to recap this build for ya. It is the AMT Ertl kit and it is one of the worst kits I have ever encountered. Nothing fit well and the detail was non existant. I did do some rescribing on this one, that was a first for me. I used the Super Scale mig killers decal sheet and they were terriffic. I noticed they are very fragile and lift very easily if handled too much. This after a few coats of gloss on top?, go figure. I could not get the canopies to fit properly as a result some paint got on the windshield. I poped it off and sanded the paint off and re-futured. In the photos it is not glued back on yet.

As for the subject. This is the aircraft of CDR Sam Flynn who shot down a Mig -21 in June 1972 from VF-31 flying off the USS Saratoga.

Hope you enjoy the photos guy's and all comments and critizism is always welcome. I enjoyed this GB just wished I had a Hasegawa kit for it. Thanks Rand for hosting this GB and I may build another if I can find a subject I like

Steve

 

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Saturday, January 5, 2008 10:58 PM

OK, so I finally finished up the F-4 yesterday. I pulled the canopy masks off and kinda like I was worrying about , some paint got inside a gap. The windscreen had paint inside of it so I pryied it off and ran some sandpaper on it to lift it. Not great but not too bad either. I will wash it in some future to see if it clears up better. Fingers crossed. I had a family emergency today so I will try to fix the canopy and post photos tomorrow.

Steve

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Saturday, January 5, 2008 11:50 AM
ok i have finally gotten everything together except for the canopy and the its ready for painting. i hope to have it painted this afternoon. and hopefully i can start decaling late sunday.. so far this has been on of the best airplanes i have done in some time. so a few pics will come on sunday eveing i hope.
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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 1:20 PM
Thank you Air Master! I'll pull that one out and get started. Thanks for the admittance.
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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 11:33 AM

 Duke Maddog wrote:
I would like to see this extended too since I just found this Group Build. I have a 1/72 scale F-4 Phantom MiG killer I'd like to submit to this. Plus, I may have another model I could do for the MiG Killers II Group Build too.

Duke,

We'd be glad to have ya aboard! WELCOME! Grab a badge from first page and jump on in.

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Tucson, AZ
Posted by Archangel Shooter on Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:32 PM

I too have not posted for awhile, that 1/32 Thud is giving me such fit problems that I had to take a break or I would wind up tossing the kit into the trash. I got myself a Nikon D-40 so I can now post pics of the bird which I will do shortly.

Scott

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:01 PM

yahoo i have gotten the i/p and hud done. the only thing i really have to do is add the film part to the hud but to me its done.so here is the only pic i was able to get before my camera died

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:25 PM

Thanks to all the time off for the holidays i am just about finished the F-4. Between yesterday and today I thought I was finished and went to put the fuel tanks on only to find that I have not sanded the seams or painted them yet. UUUGGGGGHHHH. So, sanding right now during the game and hope to paint tomorrow after my golf game. Will post photos soon.

I am up for an extention or for that matter a II Gb. I was looking for a marine Mig Killer, I have already built the only Marine F-4 kill but I think some other a/c had a kill in Korea and Nam. Since I am just about finished I will look for another subject. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Steve

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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:48 AM
I would like to see this extended too since I just found this Group Build. I have a 1/72 scale F-4 Phantom MiG killer I'd like to submit to this. Plus, I may have another model I could do for the MiG Killers II Group Build too.
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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:30 AM
yeah that sounds like a good idea tome on the extenindg part and on the other with about the foregin mig gb
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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:28 AM

Happy Belated Holidays All!

Sorry I have not posted in awhile. I have been busy on my 1/32 Tomcat as some of you know, although it doesnt count for our GB. I am considering extending the GB here to the end of December 08 and want to know what you guys think. I for one would like to get another MiG Killer done before we end it. I am also considering starting a new GB, "Mig Killers II GB", in Jan 08 and this time we will include foreign nations that have Mig kills also and same rules apply.

Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks.

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Bothell, WA
Posted by btp2k2 on Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:34 AM

I hope to get back on track with the Skyhawk.

I got a little sidetracked trying to finish a Tomcat for the F-14 GB before the deadline.....but now I am ready to focus on the scooter until it is finished. Which isn't that far away anyway....just need to take her into the spray booth, and weather it and then hang some iron

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:16 PM

Great looking bang seats GA, bang up job on it, looks all the business. Sorry to hear of all your wowes in the cockpit, been there done that. Take a deep breath and go at it again my friend. I did get some work done on the F-4 in the last week and a lot of the fiddly bits were worked on today. I was going to decal it today but instead decided to get the weapons, whells etc finished up first. If all goes well I will decal tomorrow. One more bad progress shot.

Hope to post more progress soon.

Steve

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:24 PM
well i have hit my frist real bad snfu. while putting together the top and bottom fuslage together.  i had the following all break off. the rear bulkhead for the cockpit,the left side photo etch panel, and one very small control knob and one t-handle on the right side of the cockpit. needless to say that was it for last nights building. i spent about 30 minutes looking for the small pe stuff that went onto the carpet monster but the good news i found all of them. i have all ready got the bulkhead back into the fuslage and i am working on the rest of the pe today. the i will try and get the i/p done and then ready for painting.
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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 5:13 PM

well guys here is the bang seat all done and weathered. i am finishing up one side panel and then i can button this one up and get it ready for painting. i should have the i/p done tonight also and pics will follow later tonight. thanks for loooking rob.

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:18 PM
thanks for the comments guys. yep its all photo etch by edaurds and is 1/48 for the new tamiya f-16cj kit. i am really hooked on this stuff it makes the cockpit look so much better than the decals they put in sometimes. ihope to have the top and bottom buttoned up toady along with the hud,i/p bang seat,canopy and the fuel tanks done with the phot etch stuff. but i did run into my frist snafu i have either missed place my control stick or the carpet monster has gotten ahold of it and you can forget about finding it on this tan carpet. but other than that a trouble free build.
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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:35 AM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

I concure.  The pit is very nice, and those burner cans look awesome.  What scale was that again? 

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Friday, December 14, 2007 11:02 PM

That is a very nice looking interior. Is that a PE set from the kit or is it AM. It is very realistic and will be great when the fuselage is buttoned up. Nice work.

I hope to get some work done on the F-4 this weekend.

Steve

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:06 PM

ok got some more done on the f-16 even some on the cockpit. here are some pics of the afterbuner can and of the pit i hope to have this all closed after i get the side panels done with the photo etch and the top and bottom fuslage together by friday and then over the weekend ready for paint. so enjoy the pics.

 

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:54 PM

GA,

That Viper looks good! Looking forward to seeing it finished. I have a 1/32 Viper in my stash I am a long way off from building. She will be a Navy Aggressor when I get around to starting it.

I am still working on the pit of my 1/32 Tomcat. I have been doing a lot of detailing from scratch and its almost finished. I will post WIP pics in the Aircraft forum as soon as I am finished. I have added levers, handles, and seat belts all from wire and foil. I think its the most realistic looking pit I have done to date and all done from photo references. I think you guys will agree once you have seen it.

 

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Monday, December 10, 2007 7:16 PM

as promised here a just a few shots of the f-16. i am still working on the cockpit and the bang seat. all the other parts have been put together and are waiting for the paint booth more pics to come

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Sunday, December 9, 2007 9:01 PM

Ga, good luck with the F-16 and looking forward to seeing some progress shots of it.

Steve

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Saturday, December 8, 2007 8:11 AM
well sidure their not that bad some times i can get them to turn out great but most of the times i end up trashing them. thier are only really two bad places on the whole kit its right at the air intake and near the back of the plane were the formation light is. as for the 1/48 hasegawas thier great and so are the 1/48 revells thier more work but you can turn out a very nice hornet. i am working extremly slow on my f-16 as i really do not want to screw this one up. so far it has come together very nice and not one bit of puttie so far anywere and thats a frist for me.. its tamiya new tooled f-16cj kit and its worth every penny of it. the only thing i dont like about the kit is the havled the nose instead of giving you a whole nose for the kit but outer than that a very nice kit to get. i will get some pics up here this afternoon i have a long time freind coming over and havent seen her in some time so were going to have some fun today. i will try and get some more work done on it  later in the day. 
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