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  • From: Bothell, WA
Posted by btp2k2 on Monday, February 11, 2008 10:51 AM

Hello? Is this thing on? Echo echo echo....sure is quite in here....

Anyway.....got another update.

So...I've gotten a *little* work done since my last post.....

This is the dreaded nose seam. Everyone talks about how horrible this is. Well.....here it is. Note that this seam has not been filled or sanded at all. That is exactly how it came out. It is completely smooth to the touch, no steps...and you can see very little filling will be required. The trick was strips of styrene inside the fuselage part of this joint. I took .125" x .125" strips and cut them into little pieces, maybe an inch in length...then attached them to the fuselage so they would make guide pins. Once they had dried and were on there good and strong, I slid the nose on and this is what I ended up with. The test fit without the styrene was horrendous. But the strips not only gave me a guide, but also served to help form the pieces together....

Oh yeah....I also got some other work done.......

 

*note....that is about half my dining room table there....these things are HUGE!

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, February 11, 2008 5:30 PM
Looking good, btp2k2.  Yeah, it has been quiet since Mucker finished his Wildcat.  I've been bogged down in a 5-kit build of P-40s and am wondering when I will ever get to my second build for this GB.  But we have had some completed builds that are all outstanding examples of what can be done by the modelers who frequent this site.  Looking forward to seeing your finished Tomcats.
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Posted by More Power Scotty on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:38 PM

Philo,

When I looked at that first photo I felt like I was back in the Navy on shore leave!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]  In all seriousness though, nice job on your plane!Thumbs Up [tup]

btp2k2,

That really is a BIG jet!  I pull mine out of the box every now and then just to admire the size of that project (especially when compared to the 1/700 scale biplane airwing I just built for my USS Saratoga CV-3).  I took a new position at work last month and now have my own office.  Perhaps that will give me the motivation to build one of those monster cats to hang from the ceiling.

Scott
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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:18 AM

Keep those pics coming, Btp!

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Posted by More Power Scotty on Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:54 PM

Hey, can I take credit for the nine Grumman F3F planes that I built for my USS Saratoga CV-3?

Here are a couple of photos.  They are 1/700 scale, the pencil is for size reference.

Scott
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Posted by Aggieman on Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:15 PM

Sure, the group build specifies any scale allowed - even one you can barely see!!!

The only hold-up would be when did you build these F3Fs?

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, February 18, 2008 1:00 PM
Thanks Scotty!I guess you are a Star Trek Fan too!   
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Posted by More Power Scotty on Monday, February 18, 2008 3:54 PM

Aggieman,

I just finished the propeller stripes this past Saturday.  I was mainly joking, but they are Grumman aircraft, and if you want to give me the credit that is fine, but I am still getting ready to start the Panther that I chose for this build.  I actually started thinking about posting the photos of the finished F3F's (they are too small to figure out which model) here when I joined this group as it seemed humorous to me.  Yes, they are tiny, and each one consists of four pieces (fuselage and lower wing, upper wing, propeller, and front wheels) plus five decals (chevron on top wing plus four stars (two on top wing, two on bottom wing)).  The fuselage stripe and engine cowling stripe are hand painted.  I spent most of the last three weeks just working on the thirty-three planes for the carrier as I could only work for so long before I needed a break from the magnification devices I had to use to build them.  The more I think about it, I do want the credit here.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Scott
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Posted by More Power Scotty on Monday, February 18, 2008 4:01 PM

Philo,

Kind of a Star Trek fan.  When I first joined the FineScale web page I used the name "Bull" as that was my nickname back in my Navy days (this was from being the senior 3rd class petty officer in my rating, or Bull).  When the web page changed a couple of years ago, I could not register using the same name for some reason, but I assume that someone thought "Bull" was short for bulls***.  It was not, but I had to come up with something new and as some of the guys at work say "Give me more power Scotty" when they see me, it seemed like a good idea (especially as I work at a nuclear power plant).

Scott
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Posted by philo426 on Monday, February 18, 2008 6:15 PM
Seems logicaL TO ME!
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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, February 18, 2008 7:19 PM
That's logical enough for me!  Scott, I will grant you credit for those tiny little Grummans.  Look for that in the coming days.
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Posted by More Power Scotty on Friday, February 22, 2008 5:22 PM

Aggieman,

Thanks! Big Smile [:D]

By the way, the build is on for me.  I started some initial work this past week by fitting the Blackbox sidewalls into place after removing the interior detail on the kit fuselage halves.  I was a little disapointed in the amount of work that I had to do to get the cockpit tub and the front wheelwell to fit in the fuselage at the same time.  I spent quite a bit of time filing, sanding and dremelling (is that a word?) the middle of the wheelwell to get it to fit after I sanded down the resin bottom of the cockpit to about a one one thousandth inch thickness (not entirely on purpose).  I can already tell that there will be some fit issues to deal with along the way.  Once I get a little further along, I will get a photo or two taken and posted and I will continue to update my progress from time to time.

Scott
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  • From: From Vernal UT OH YEA!!
Posted by raptordriver on Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:07 AM
Aggie I know its a little late but I read the rules. I'll join with a Monogram 1/48 F4FBig Smile [:D]

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:14 PM
Not too late, Raptor!  Welcome aboard!
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Posted by More Power Scotty on Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:30 PM

Aggieman,

I just took a look at posting #1, and thanks for the credit on those little F3F's.  There is not quite enough engine detail to determine if they are dash 1's, 2's, or 3's. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

All,

I have made a little progress this week on the Panther as all of the resin piees are now cleaned up and ready for installation in the cockpit.  I need to do some airbrushing next and start the fuselage assembly.  Once I get a little further along, I will post a photo or two.

Scott
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Posted by DURR on Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:26 PM
Aggieman   FANTASTIC job
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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:21 PM
Durr, if you are referring to my Hu-16 Albatross, thank you very much.  It was a fun - if not trying - build, particularly with all the scratch-building.
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Posted by raptordriver on Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:48 PM
Aggie, I started 1/48 accurate miniatures TBM last week. So sign me up for that to please. I'll post some progress pics over the weekend.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by jssel on Friday, February 29, 2008 10:16 AM

Hello, at the invite of Aggieman here is my Hobbycraft 1/48 F8F Bearcat in South Vietnamese Air Force markings.  This kit was an easy and quick build.  Overall finish is Floquil Old Silver.  A new technique for me was done on the formation lights on the wings.  Although you can not see in this image, I used Tamiya clear blue with a clear lens on top.  The decals were punched out using a punch and die set so that they would lay over the lights.

Thanks for letting me show my work

Jeff 

 

Mr President, I'd p@#* on a sparkplug if I thought 'id help!
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Posted by raptordriver on Sunday, March 2, 2008 11:49 AM

Here's my progress, this is  a challenging kit. But nice.

DSCF1639.jpg picture by Raptor94

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by minihasek on Monday, March 3, 2008 7:46 PM
well due to the impending move of my family and i ive had the hobby room packed up for over a week now...i have made some progress...I have all the components ill need. Hasegawa F-14D and Fighter Town Decals VX-30 Decals. I did start on the cockpit...and as this is my first Has. F-14 i must say i am impressed. when we get set up at the new house ill try to get some pictures taken
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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 10:27 PM

I finally have made some progress on my Hasegawa 1/32 Hellcat, which I am going to do in Alex Vraciu's markings.  I met him once, sat next to him at a dinner. Told him "thanks".  A fine fellow, he is.

I'm using a Verlinden cockpit set and the Eduard PE parts, some of each.  The Eduard panel has film instruments, and I added a white styrene sheet backing to make it more rigid and to provide the white for the gauge markings.  The Verlinden parts need a fair bit of fitment, but I like the quality of the castings.  I didn't like the thickness of the F6F-3 windows and had a hard time getting the area cut out accurately, so I used a thin clear acetate that is oversize and faired them in, then masked the inside and outside to protect the smaller area of the windows while I am painting.  I also made a bulkhead and shelf for the aft window area, it will be visible and pictures in Detail ands Scale are "sort of" like what I made.  Probably ought to add some wiring or plumbing back there, but at this point I haven't found a convincing photo of the area.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by btp2k2 on Wednesday, March 5, 2008 12:28 AM

Well....the big scale Tomcats stalled a little....so I ran to the hobby shop to find something to get me out of the funk....

So last week I picked up an Italeri Tomcat. It's waiting for the paint to set and then will get a coat of future tomorrow....

Aggie, can you add this to the list? 1/48th scale Italeri F-14A

 

Thanks

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, March 5, 2008 6:34 AM

John, nice progress on that big Hellcat.  Looking forward to seeing her complete.

btp, I've added your second Tomcat to the list.  I built that same kit last year along with a 1/144 version and made a wall plaque out of them.

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Posted by btp2k2 on Wednesday, March 5, 2008 9:29 AM

Nice!

I love seeing the size differences between scales. Like these 32nd scale Tomcats compared to the normal 48th scale....when you think in terms of numbers, 32 isn't all that far away from 48....but then when you see them next to each other...WOW!

 

The paint on your 48th scale looks great....

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, March 10, 2008 7:57 PM

Working on the engine and cowl for the Hasegawa 1/32 F6F.  This is a nice kit but you can tell it is an older mold, in terms of fineness of some details.  Great fit and sharpness and only a little flash on this newer pressing.  Edges of the cowl need some thinning around the cowl flaps, and I am reworking the supercharger scoop to open it up.  Blanked off in this scale just doesn't work for me.  They aren't even taking that route in 1/72 in the better new kits.  Some photos below.  More detail to add to the engine still, but I have to show it cause I'm having so much fun with it.  The fuselage halves are glued and the seams are filled, not much work there.  The fit of the wing at the lower rear looks like it will take some care during gluing.

The first photo is my engine assembly fixture.  The induction manifold was arguing with me so I persuaded it.  It is not always a bigger hammer that does the job. Approve [^]

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, March 10, 2008 8:54 PM

The induction manifold was arguing with me so I persuaded it. 

Your tools of persuasion seem to have worked.  Smile [:)]  Nice looking engine, John.

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Posted by btp2k2 on Monday, March 10, 2008 9:13 PM

John, that engine looks great!

 

I hope to be done with the decaling on my Italeri Tomcat by tomorrow.

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:14 AM
Thanks for all the kind comments.  I'm having fun with this one.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by btp2k2 on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:51 AM

Here is my Italeri F-14A Tomcat.

It still needs a top coat of future and then weathering...going to add the coat of future in about 5 minutes and then weathering should happen tomorrow. Once I weather, I will put on the gear bay doors and the shoulder pylons. The aircraft will also carry a TARPS pod. I will photograph it properly when completed

The kit bang seats were pretty laughable, so I liberated some spare seats from a Hasegawa Tomcat...the ventral fins were WAY off shape wise, so I grabbed the ventral fins from the same Hasegawa donor kit the seats came from. The kit came with two closed Pratt & Whitney nozzles, I had a spare open P&W nozzle from an Academy kit, so I used that on the port engine. The markings I used were from an early Tomcat, the kit did not come with the proper chinpod, so I liberated that from an old Revellogram Tomcat. The VF-111 Sundowners markings came from Aeromasters "Tomcat Supreme part 2" sheet.

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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