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War in the Desert - African campaign GB - 12/9/07 to 5/13/08

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Posted by darson on Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:17 PM

T-Rex, I would have to agree with others that I think you've overdone it a tad on the dust.  IMHO if you removed a lot so that only rested in the natural places dust collects, you'd have a real winner.

Saddler really nice looking work on the Sherman III, I presume this is the look you were going for

Btw, care to share exactly what colours you went for in the end?

Luciano thanks once again for explaining your techniques and showing us another fabulous model from start to finish, I'll look forward to seeing this kit in a magazine really soon Bow [bow]Bow [bow].

Progress on my 1/48 Panzer III has slowed a tad as I'm trying a new (for me) painting technique called colour modulation.  I don't know how it will turn out but I'll post some pics soon.

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Posted by Mark Joyce on Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:13 PM

Greg:  Nice work on the Spitfire and, as Rick's already pointed out, the preshading looks great.  Can't wait to see more progress pictures!

Lu:  Outstanding job on both the Universal Carrier and the figures!  The washes, dry-brushing, and other work really make everything stand out.

T-rex:  Your Hanomag looks great!  I agree with Arki30 in that I prefer the 'before' over the 'after,' but it's whatever makes you happy that counts.

Saddler: I don't see anything negative about your Sherman, and I'd be very happy to have mine come out as nice!  Rick's looks great with the weathering, but I understand your rationale for keeping it clean.

Mark 

 

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Sunday, March 16, 2008 6:51 PM
Awesome work. Hard to beleive that's 1/48 scale!

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Posted by arki30 on Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:45 AM
Wow, Lu, that's just really, really nice work.  Bravo! Bow [bow]

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:52 AM

Lu... Thanks for the source info on the figures & for the comments on the Sherman.  You are correct, it's the 1/48 Tamiya kit.

The UC is simply breath taking.  Truly excellent work.  Really looking forward to seeing it in the desert scene.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by mokei on Sunday, March 16, 2008 6:14 AM

Saddler, Definitely I must be missing something about Corston because it looks correct to me. It has a beautifull hard edge camo which is always hard to make and the kit is 1/72nd scale, right?. I agree and believe a bit of extra weathering would fit very well and that red rust shade on tracks does not work well to me, but I consider you have some good reasons to be happy with your work. Thumbs Up [tup]

Rick, Good work on your Shermie too. That one looks the Tamiya 1/48 model, Am I wrong?. As for the AOW figures in the States you surely can get them in the Michigan Toy Soldier (http://www.michtoy.com/) or canadian Track 48 shop (http://www.track48.com/).

Tamiya 1/48 scale Universal Carrier

Here you have it finally.

 

 

I am working on the small desert scene now.

Lu

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:17 PM
 rjkplasticmod wrote:

 saddler wrote:
It is pretty clean but then I was basing it on a photo taken during a rest/ refit period. The Sherman was repainted shortly before the picture was taken in time for a parade!

Parade finish is OK, especially with a historic photo reference, but I like mine grubby Smile [:)].

Regards,  Rick

LOL!  Define "grubby" in regards to armor, Rick.  You know as well as I do some of the true-blue armor guys would call yours "clean"! Big Smile [:D]

Both look quite nice, IMHO. 

Progress report: I have the upper camo colors applied now, so it's time for some touchup and then assembly of the landing gear.  Slow and steady.

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Posted by T-rex on Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:28 PM
A fine sherman there, nice and simple.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:52 PM

 saddler wrote:
It is pretty clean but then I was basing it on a photo taken during a rest/ refit period. The Sherman was repainted shortly before the picture was taken in time for a parade!

Parade finish is OK, especially with a historic photo reference, but I like mine grubby Smile [:)].

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:28 PM
Hey, looks like a Sherman to me!  Cool beans!

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Posted by saddler on Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:30 PM
It is pretty clean but then I was basing it on a photo taken during a rest/ refit period. The Sherman was repainted shortly before the picture was taken in time for a parade!
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:16 PM

Nice Sherman Saddler.  A little too clean for me, but nothing wrong with a Parade finish if that's what you like.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by saddler on Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:01 PM

Finally completed my re-painted Sherman III. Not particulaly happy with the final result. I seem to have a blind spot with shermans, ive built 2 and im not happy with ither of them. Ive got 3 more to build though so plenty of chance to get it right.

Any comments or suggestions welcome. 

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Posted by JMart on Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:19 AM

Lu - Once again I thank you for taking the time to explain your methodology and techniques. I actually *like* seeing some tools "in action" since I can then learn the proper angle of application, width of brush used, etc. But I am a rookie/newbie, so I see how that part can be redundant for more experienced modelers. :)

Great figures and accesories, nice depth of field effect with your painting/wash techniques. Look forward to seeing more of your work!

 

 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, March 15, 2008 7:17 AM

Beautiful figures Lu.  Hard to believe they are 1/48.  Who is your source for Art of War figures ?  I'd like to pick some up.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by mokei on Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:37 AM

Arki, no problem for your remark, actually the Universal Carirer is done and I am not taking step-by-step pics of the display base I am currently working on, so everything will be simplified in that meaning from now on.

T-rex,  I personally believe weathering is one matter of contrast and balance, so does not matter what I consider in any case (before or after) you will still have some extra work left to make in your model to make things look right according to the situation or condition you want to reproduce. Anyway I apprecite you do not seem to fear trying new things and surely that is the most important point to improve model painting, and that is always positive to me. Just one advice: in my opinion, it is not necessary to dust up one model completely to make it look dusty totally.

Tamiya 1/48 scale Universal Carrier

In the interval to finish weathering and stowage, I also made the figs for the scene. This is the very nice Art Of War Desert Rats set I really like very much because theirs natural/casual poses and very good expressions full of character. Those figs are made in resin and are out of the box totally but the officer head which comes form the spare parts box. Those chaps were painted with Vallejo Acrylics entirely with lights and shadows acording to the light from above figure painting style. 

Lu

 

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, March 14, 2008 10:15 PM
Hmm, worse.  Now it just looks like caked on paint.  I'd go back to what you had previously.

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Posted by T-rex on Friday, March 14, 2008 8:52 PM

Wow, there sure alot of great builds here, I just wanted to show alittle make over of my hanomag. Now it is done, but I thought the paint weathering just isn't enought for a half-track that mit have wet throught a sand storm, so added a more common and realistique color, pastel colors. Had a good set of ten diffrent colors from rust to smoky grey, the hanomag only had dirt brown, look at the diffrence.

Before

After

Looks way dustier, but it may have taken too much of the details off, fortunaly unlike paint, pastle can be remove simply by water, tell me if you think it looks better or worse.

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, March 14, 2008 3:47 PM

gzt - Spitfire is looking good.  Keep it up. Thumbs Up [tup]

Lu - I can't say enough on how impressed I am by the quality of your build.  Really very nice with good explanation of techniques and excellent photography.  But, and I know I'm nitpicking here, you really don't need to have the "action" shot of your paintbrush or tool in every photograph.  Frankly, it's distracting when overused.  We get the idea. Wink [;)]  Otherwise, keep posting great stuff!

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, March 14, 2008 8:11 AM

Greg..  The Spitfire is looking real good.  The pre-shading is nice.

LU...  Excellent work my friend, great looking model.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by mokei on Friday, March 14, 2008 5:09 AM

SMJ, Good work on the Jinny!  I see you continued working on the weathering and the final result is more impacting now. If my understanding is correct you are making one small scene with this one, right? If so I am looking forward to seeing the complete scene soon.

Greg, that Spit is going on well and I guess the best is to come still.

Mark, Excellent work on your Kitty so far. I really like the look is having and think the model will change a lot to better in following stages. Rudder replacement is one very nice touch and regarding that reference image you posted the most impresive and interesting thing to me is to see the heavy weathered look of those birds in the field (specially noticeable on the Kitty on the foreground) very interesting to reproduce on a model.

Rick, As for your dusting up question, everything is up to the model I make at the moment. I am painting dust with diferents mediums (oils, enamels, acrylics, pastels chalks, pigments) and methods (wet or dry) and every of them worked with its own properties and finish. As I mentioned enamels are very easy to use for this purpose and allow a very controled painting which is very convenient in this case because the Bren is quite small model indeed (i.e. upper hull side plates height is 12mm only) and I know it would be quite harder to keep the dusting effect to scale with pigments in all those small surfaces, for instance.

Tamiya 1/48 scale Universal Carrier

After the dusting up stage, overall base color gives impresion of a much lighter shade, and of a much continuous and uniform look too, so in order to gain some visual impact some darker stains/effects will break up that plain look created by dust. Again thinned enamels are perfect to add those few dark traces necessary to add operative life to our model. I worked with earth brown and flat black to reproduce different grade/nature stains depending on the area to be treated. Vertical brown stains fit well in the dusty sides giving sense of overlaped/removed dust in the course of time, meanwhile darker (black) stains will reproduce some necessary oily and greasy touches on the running gear mainly. I consider both effects add some kind of dramatic (in the good meaning of the expression) touch to one operative vehcile. It is also interesting and noticeable to see in this pictire how already our perception starts integrating  the messy lower hull and running gear in the image observer percieves of the model and those messy areas do not look that terrible now.

I prepared some stowage for this tiny vehicle. I think accessories are always welcome on a model and they are particularly important for one open top vehicle like the Bren. Unfortunately it seems many modellers are skiping this important -to me- step because accesories are always time compsuming, specially at those smaller scales.

Once the model is near completion then last touch is to add some extra metalic shine with one ordinary pencil. This also takes time to make it correctly but this final effect adds both depth and shine to the model and increases the feeling of its steel nature too. The only trick is to limit this final effect to the areas most exposed to friction and use, and do not overdo on every edge and surface because it would not look reallistic if so.

At the moment I still have some small final details left to add, but I hope we will see some images of the completed model as soon as I can have time ot take some. Stay tunned.

Lu

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Posted by gzt on Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:03 PM

here a second color of Spitfire Mk IXc from PFT

 

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Posted by Mark Joyce on Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:48 PM

 bobbaily wrote:
Mark-very nice paint job on your Kittyhawk.  Did you pre-shade?  Again, it looks great.

Thanks, Bob.  I both pre-shaded and post-shaded.  Hopefully this weekend I can get around to the panel line wash. 

Mark 

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:55 AM
Mark-very nice paint job on your Kittyhawk.  Did you pre-shade?  Again, it looks great.

Bob

 

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:48 PM
JMart:  Thanks again...I really like those barrels too, it added a lot to the build once I put them in...they gave it more context!!!

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Posted by JMart on Monday, March 10, 2008 5:58 PM

SMJ - oustanding job again... hey, I cant build worth sprue but I come up with good terms! ;) Love the last few details you added (weatherwise), such as the dusted barrels... what can I say, another "bookmark" for me to save!

mokei/Lu - Once again, thank you for taking the time to write a tutorial... really helps everyone, but specially the newbies/rookies like me! :)

gzt - Nice WIP, really like the paint job and the resulting effect...

Mark - Really nice job onthe camo, thanks for posting the pic... always learning in here!

*phew* after catching up with these four fantastic builds, lets just say Im relieved I dont have any WIP of mine to post, would bring the high level of current quality crashing down lol Cheers!

 

 

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Posted by arki30 on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:58 AM

Mark, I had noticed the dark green patch on the rudder and wondered if it was field mod.  That's a good reference pic and even better eye for catching that detail. 

The camo lines came out very nice.  I've actually never tried the masking method you've described.  I'll have to in the future. 

Keep it up. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Mark Joyce on Monday, March 10, 2008 9:55 AM

Thanks for the kind words, folks!

arki30:  I used paper masks, slightly raised off the surface using Blu-tac 'sausages.'  As you might know, the RAF sprayed over the factory-applied dark green with middlestone.  Here's a picture of the real aircraft (second in line) which was flown by Canadian ace "Stocky" Edwards.  Note how it appears the rudder is a replacement from another Kittyhawk that still had the factory-applied dark earth and dark green.  The effect may be due to shadowing, but I decided to go ahead and paint it as such:

Mark

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Posted by dupes on Monday, March 10, 2008 9:09 AM
Mark - looks sweet! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by SMJmodeler on Sunday, March 9, 2008 11:19 PM

arki30: Thanks...and glad you noticed the dust on the barrels...I had intended to add it once I knew what my cargo would be, but once the barrels were glued in it became REAL obvious that they needed the dust...

darson:  Thanks again, glad you followed along.

MarkJoyce:  The plane looks great!!!Thumbs Up [tup]...keep it going, I'll look forward to seeing it in a couple weeks.  Thanks for the compliment on my "Jimmy"Blush [:I], can't ask for more than that...I'm excited to show it to you and the guys at our meeting!

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