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  • Member since
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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:02 PM
 Reload wrote:

I would love to do his mount one day, he is going through his boxes trying to find his log book to let me know which one he flew, for both the Hurrie and the spit, and his markings and kill totals. I believe he had 4 with 2 probables and a damage to a H111. If I remember correctly, the others were 2 109's, and 2 stukas, and can't remember the probables. He flew with Johnie Johnson, and a few other Canucks. He also flew with Buzz Buerling for a while.

That's why i couldn't remember the probables....my mistake. My dad told me tonight that the 4 was with 2 probables.

Thanks for the pics of the seat. Now I am going to say that they have the belts laying up across the back of the seat correct? It is a wierd looking set up for belts. That is the O2 hose right.

*EDIT*  I think I have it figured out now. I found this site,

http://spitfiresite.com/reference/variants-technology/2008/03/sutton-harness.htm

OK, there is a piece that comes out of the middle hole on the seat, as well as there are the straps that travel back through the armor plate to the cable, correct? The straps with the holes are where the locking pin goes in place. Hmmmmm.........I think I am going to have to make my own here as my budget for this build came to a halt after tax time....man did we get hammered. Both my wife's and my companies had us down for WAY to many deductions....feeling it now. ANyway, I am going to have to leave out the PE, and other parts I was going to add. ALrighty then.....now the seat harness makes sense....time to continue.

thanks for the help

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:19 PM

Cool link Brent, thanks! Thumbs Up [tup]

I think you've got it, but here's another one from Ultracast.

Frank 

 

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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:36 PM

Well, we are coming along. Through my research, I have read the the Rumanain  Hurricanes showed the effects of aging and the weather especially whithin in the cockpit. Apearently they wore pretty fast due to their only being 12 of them and they were used most frequently. SO, I have been piddling around with some oil burnt siena washes, silver dry brushing, rust washes, and then some more manipulating of the washes when almost dry. For some reason, the washes show up a bit darker on film then they do under light. Oh well, you can get the jist of it from these. As I said above, I made the mistake of painting them american interior green instead of British. I used the AM color as the base, and then went and did the BR green. This is my first time using washes like this, and the extra stuff I did. Usually I just do a panel wash so comments and sugestions welcome.

Cheers

Brent

Before

after

 

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Hamilton, Ontario
Posted by Poppie on Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:40 AM

WAHOO!!!! The doc took off the big splint from my right hand yesterday. I can move all my fingers and have a fair amount of grasp. A bit sore if I over do it and everything needs a good spray of WD40 to get the stiffness out but, all in all, I'm back in the game. They'll take the rest of the hardware out in about 3 weeks but who cares - I'm back doing what I like to do. So, I'm going to start working on the pit and framework tubing this a.m.  I always heard that you should spray all the small parts first then assemble, but I saw that you guys apparently assembled the tubework and frame work first, then painted things up.  I was thinking of assembling the framework, armour stop and seat (all that are indicated the same green OOB) spray paint the finished assemby, do some touch up and weathering, and then attach the IP and glue the completed unit to the side of the fuselage.    What's this I hear of installing the pit by going in through the hole in the bottom of the fuselage once the two sides are glued and sanded?

Just checking out my options here. Gosh, its good to be back!

"This is a gentle place if I but make it so." Poppie
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  • From: Hamilton, Ontario
Posted by Poppie on Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:12 AM

Hurricane Build Badge - figured it out! Duh!

"This is a gentle place if I but make it so." Poppie
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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:15 AM

Poppie that's great news.  Depending onthe kit and hte waythe pit fits in you sometime install the pit assembley after the fuselage is together.  I find it is easier to "center" that way sometimes.

 

WOW doe sthe "new" AB spray nice.  What a differnece the new head and needle make.  You do have to kind of get used to it all over again though.  Had to play around with pressure and volume to get the camo pattern right. For doing peeling paint... the hairspray method is the pooWink [;)]

Camo sprayed and the hairspray applied.

 

Here it has the whitewash applied

And the whitewash worn/peeled away. 

Marc  

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:56 AM

Brent- I like it!  It really looks worn, and judging from the story about their Hurri's it should look that way.  Well done!

Poppie- That's great news!  Glad to hear your hand is still working, and you're able to get started on your build. Thumbs Up [tup]

Marc- Dang, that's really cool!  I've played around with that technique as well, but haven't used it on a finished model as of yet.  Looks like yours is coming along nicely! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:14 AM

Marc,

great job with this one !

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:18 PM
Thanks guys.  A question though.  How worn do you reckon the red stars would have been? I wanna say I have read some place that they kind of kept the insigania in pretty good condition for recognition purposes.  Anyone have a photo of a really beat up Russin bird?

Marc  

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:20 PM

 wing_nut wrote:
Thanks guys.  A question though.  How worn do you reckon the red stars would have been? I wanna say I have read some place that they kind of kept the insigania in pretty good condition for recognition purposes.  Anyone have a photo of a really beat up Russin bird?

Marc-

I have some photos of a Russian P-39 that they drug out of a lake a few years ago.  I can scan and email them to you if you like.

Frank 

 

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:27 PM
Thnaks for the offer Frank but I am hoping to see an operational bird... all peeling... to see what the start looked like.   BUT if ya just have a hankerin' for using the scanner....Whistling [:-^]

Marc  

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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:45 PM

 wing_nut wrote:
For doing peeling paint... the hairspray method is the pooWink [;)]

Not sure if I missed something in the thread while I was sick,(besides the link I put up on the last page that was already up a few pages back......Dunce [D)]) or if this is something I have not heard of yet. What is the "hairspray" method?? It turned out bloody marvalous and is one of the best results i have personaly seen, well done.

 

QUESTION - for seat belts made of masking tape, what widths do you all use for the different scales?

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Friday, March 28, 2008 11:29 AM

Thnaks Brent.  Glad your are felling better.

Read about this technique over in the the armor section.  Base camo is enamel paint, let dry.   2 light coats of hairspray, let dry… whatever my daughter had in the bathroo  Top coat is Tamiya white.  Let dry for about 20-30 minutes.  Take a stiff(ish) brush, dip in water and start ”brushing” the surface with the water.  The paint will start to just flake away.  PAT IT DRY with a paper towel  If you wipe it a lot more will peel off.

 

When I am done building tanksWhistling [:-^]... I want to try this on a 1/32 scale Frank.  The green paint over some Alclad II... should make for a nice peeled Japanese fighter.

 

For the belts.... an Eduard PE 1/48 scale belt is about 3/64 or .047"  If you go a hair under 1/16" or a hair over 1mm you should be fine.

Marc  

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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Friday, March 28, 2008 12:03 PM

Thanks Marc,

I too am going to have to try that, IJN planes are PERFECT subject for that. Look for3ard to seeing it. Thanks for the belt info.

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 28, 2008 12:43 PM
 wing_nut wrote:

... I want to try this on a 1/32 scale Frank.

A 1/32 scale me?  WOOHOO!!!  That's gonna look cool.  Although, the 1/32 scale opti-visor could be tricky to fabricate. Propeller [8-]

Frank 

 

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Friday, March 28, 2008 2:48 PM
 Daywalker wrote:
 wing_nut wrote:

... I want to try this on a 1/32 scale Frank.

A 1/32 scale me?  WOOHOO!!!  That's gonna look cool.  Although, the 1/32 scale opti-visor could be tricky to fabricate. Propeller [8-]

Yeah what am I thinking????  I can barely handle the 1:1 running aroundWhistling [:-^].... now I want to make a little one to get into even more trouble??? But on the positive side.... a 1/32 you could hand deliver the stuff we send back and forth.  Ridingthe vac-tube must be a blastLaugh [(-D]

Marc  

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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Friday, March 28, 2008 4:59 PM

Well folks, I have to say, I am blessed with the most amazing wife a man could ask for. Besides being my best friend, she is a modelers best friend as well.

Here I am working on making my Hurricane OOB as I couldn;t afford the PE and resin that I wanted for it. My better half comes downstairs today and says here honey, I have a present for you. I open it up to find :

True Details wheels

Eduard colored PE

and Sqaudron vac-u-form canopies

I just sat there blubbering on like an idiot....but I did mangae to give her a kiss and a ty.

I just couldn't ask for anything more.

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Friday, March 28, 2008 5:45 PM
DUDE... Sounds like you got yourself a keeper.  That's a good woman.

Marc  

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 28, 2008 6:06 PM
 wing_nut wrote:
 Daywalker wrote:
 wing_nut wrote:

... I want to try this on a 1/32 scale Frank.

A 1/32 scale me?  WOOHOO!!!  That's gonna look cool.  Although, the 1/32 scale opti-visor could be tricky to fabricate. Propeller [8-]

Yeah what am I thinking????  I can barely handle the 1:1 running aroundWhistling [:-^].... now I want to make a little one to get into even more trouble??? But on the positive side.... a 1/32 you could hand deliver the stuff we send back and forth.  Ridingthe vac-tube must be a blastLaugh [(-D]

YAHOOOOO!!!

Riding vacuum tubes is fun!  LOL, good one Marc! Laugh [(-D]

Frank 

 

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:21 AM
 Reload wrote:

Here I am working on making my Hurricane OOB as I couldn;t afford the PE and resin that I wanted for it. My better half comes downstairs today and says here honey, I have a present for you. I open it up to find :

True Details wheels

Eduard colored PE

and Sqaudron vac-u-form canopies

She not only did this without you asking, but got parts FOR THE RIGHT KIT??? Shock [:O] I'm lucky if my wife can tell if I'm working on a "tank" or a "plane". Wink [;)]

Good catch there...she have any sisters? Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:26 AM

Lucky for me, I have a note book that sits on my desk with lists. What models I have, what extras I would like for them -I research it and put down part numbers ect so they are close at hand. I also have a list of models I would like. She said she came down and wrote down what I needed and then went onto Sqaudron and ordered tham for me.

Like I said......I just sat there blubering like an idiot.........sorry, no sisters, just a brother....Disapprove [V] LOL

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:13 PM

My Hurricane is all done.  Totally what if with some spare decals. I really wanted to try the finishing technique and have seen some all beat to crap Russians planes I figured why not this one. The build itself it 100% OOB.  I forgot top snap a pic of it but the “stupid joint” on the bottom didn’t turn out too bad.

 

Marc  

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:48 PM
Very nice work there Marc!  The paintjob looks awful outstanding!  I would say your whitewash technique is top-notch! Bow [bow]

Frank 

 

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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:03 AM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] That build turned out fantastic! The painting technique is top-notch indeed. Like I said before, it is probably the best I have seen to date.

Well done!

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:44 PM

Marc,

Wow! You did a cracking job there fella!! Thats a superb build-I absolutely love the painting and weathering that you have done. You just keep raising the bar. Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Sunday, March 30, 2008 3:43 PM

Whoah! That Hurricane looks great! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] Wish I could have coaxed you into the Winter Warriors GB with this one...Boohoo [BH]

See? It is occasionally worth it to hang out in the armor forum. Wink [;)]Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:49 PM

Thanks for the comments guys.  Glad you like it.

 

Dupes... Ah nuts, I never thought of that. 

Marc  

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, March 31, 2008 6:30 AM

I've got the day off today so I have been adding some weathering to my Hurricane and I have also added the landing gear. This one is starting to take shape now!Big Smile [:D]

I'll get some pics up later if I have time.Wink [;)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 31, 2008 8:11 AM
Looking forward to 'em Darren.

Marc  

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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, March 31, 2008 3:23 PM

Thanks Marc,

its not much to look at right now as it still has a shed load of gloss coat on......but here is my Mk.I with its famous pilot Sqn.Ldr. Barder.......

I hope that once I get the little details and a nice dull coat done the overall look will improve. Still , this will give you guys a rough idea of where I'm going with this one!

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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