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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:51 PM

Thanks Adam! Thumbs Up [tup]

Greg- Nope, but I am expecting some metal ones from you my friend! Big Smile [:D]

Marc- I'll check the vacuum tube when I get home to see if they arrived yet. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]  Have you looked at the L/G parts yet?  Mis-matched molds, huge seams, and ejector pin marks in very obvious places.  In fact, mine has some right on the retraction strut that almost penetrate the whole part. Sigh [sigh]

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:22 PM
I got lucky there.... mine are pretty good.

Marc  

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Posted by gzt on Friday, March 21, 2008 10:43 PM

I painted the bottom side tonight ..

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 21, 2008 10:47 PM
Very nicely done Greg!  WHat paints did you use?  The finish looks flawless in the photos. Bow [bow]

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, March 21, 2008 10:56 PM

This is one my experiments Smile [:)]

I used HawkieHobbies acryl metalic paint: Aluminum and Dark Aluminum. I wanted to separate fabric portion with a diferent shade

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:00 PM
Did you use their polishing powders too?  I have used those and been very happy with the effect.  I also tried using the powders on plain FUture, worked OK but not quite as brilliant as with the aluminum paint underneath.

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:11 PM

NOPE Sad [:(] I did not about it. How do you use it ?? Single grade ?

I had a had time keeping a consistent flow Sad [:(]. I was not able to go with a very small flow rate, only the large and spray the whole wing at once. No way I could do any detailing with this paint (or airbrush Smile [:)]

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:21 PM

Greg,

The polishing powders are from SNJ, and available through Hawkeyehobbies.  After painting your parts in the appropriate colors, you wait until the paint is just slightly tacky (about 30 minutes) and then dip a Q-tip into the VERY fine powder and buff it into the paint.  It adds a level of realism to the surface that really looks like bare metal. Smile [:)]

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:43 PM

to late now Sad [:(]

I am going to get this when I get back and repaint this bird than 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:48 PM

Greg,

How about another thin coat of the acrylic paint when you get some of the powder, then rubbing it into the surface of the new coat?  Or, even rubbing it into a coat of Future applied over the aluminum paint.  Just an idea...

Frank 

 

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Posted by Reload on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:49 PM

Well, after a while of having to put the project on hold, I managed to get some more work done tonight. Can someone please answer me this: is there a model of hurricane that has the 3 hatches that Hasagawa molds onto the wings and then tells you to sand them off? A bit of a pain but not sure why they molded them on in the first place.

Ah well

Brent

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:56 PM

Brent,

First off, nice work!  As for the panels that need to be sanded off, they are access panels for the guns on the 12-gun Hurricanes (Mk.IIb).  They had two extra guns in each wing, staggered vertically in the leading edge where the outermost leading edge insert is located on the Hasegawa kit.  There are also two shell ejection ports molded closed on the lower wing part, for when that version is built.  HTH!

Here's a photo of a Mk.IIb with the red fabric covers over the outer two guns:

Frank 

 

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Posted by Reload on Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:48 AM

AH HA! Thank you for the info, and for the comment. So I suppose to save $$ Hasagawa just makes one mold for certain marks and then you add or delete what is needed. Makes sense.

Had a go at filling with super glue and then using acelerator for the first time tonight, WOW, is that the cat's meow! I couldn't believe how easy it was to sand with my acrylic nail sanding sticks.

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, March 22, 2008 7:05 AM

Greag and Brent... good looking progress.

 

I went to paint the bottom last night too.  Cleaned my airbrish like I have a hundred times before.  But now when I press the trigger, the air shoots out though the cup and there was an explosion of paint. Re-cleaned and re-assembled a bunch of time and the same thing.  WHAT THE...Angry [:(!]

 

I have some of the polishing powder from and ancient SNJ set.  That stuff can get airbourne pretty easy so take the appropriate safety measure and where a mask and clean your area after use.  Gotta figure breathing powdered metal is a bad thing Wink [;)]

Marc  

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:23 AM

Brent- You got it!  As for the superglue as a filler, I gotta admit there's nothing else quite like it. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Marc- That's bloody awful!  What kind of airbrush are you using?  My old Badger 200 used to do the same thing when the little holes on the backside of the head assembly got plugged up.  As for not breathing the powder, thanks for mentioning that- I forgot to. Sigh [sigh]

Frank 

 

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Posted by iflyprops on Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:51 AM

Greg,

Just out of curiosity, why did you wait to install the horizontal stabilizers? The fit on mine are terrible and will require quite a bit of putty. Paint looks great btw!

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:56 AM
Frank, it's a Badger 155 Anthem.  There isn't a molecule of paint or anyting else in any holes anywhere.  I'm stumped.Angry [:(!]

Marc  

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:30 AM
 iflyprops wrote:

Greg,

Just out of curiosity, why did you wait to install the horizontal stabilizers? The fit on mine are terrible and will require quite a bit of putty. Paint looks great btw!

I did not fit it yet, but usually it is much easier to work on the fuselage w/o tail installed. I will check it today. Anyway, the whole thing is on hold until I get the buffing compund Sad [:(] 

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Posted by gzt on Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:33 AM

 wing_nut wrote:
Frank, it's a Badger 155 Anthem.  There isn't a molecule of paint or anyting else in any holes anywhere.  I'm stumped.Angry [:(!]

I am not an expert in AB but the bubbling indicates some problem with a seal inside. Maybe something is placed a wrong way ?  

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:38 PM
Does it have a teflon seal between the body and the head?  Perhaps it is bad.

Frank 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:19 PM
It did... I lost it on like day 1 and it always worked fine so I never really knew why it was even there.

Marc  

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Posted by Reload on Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:41 PM

OK. I'm working on the office now, and I am searching my reference pics and aircraft resource center and am stuck on the seat. Molded onto the back of the seat is a small oval in which I believe is an actual hole from one pic where I can bearly see it. Is anyone able to 2nd this, or have some pics of the office they can send me please.

Cheers 

Brent 

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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Posted by Reload on Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:54 PM

I just recieved this email from my grandfather who flew hurries in the BOB and Spits MKIX over Normandy.

http://www.warmkessel.com/jr/flying/td/jd/73.jsp

 Enjoy

Brent

 

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, March 24, 2008 1:42 PM

Brent,

Very cool about your Grandfather, are you gonna build yours in his markings?

As for the seat question, yes it is an oval opening in the back of the seat.  It is where parts of the seatbelt come through for the "Sutton" type shoulder harness.

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by Reload on Monday, March 24, 2008 1:59 PM

I would love to do his mount one day, he is going through his boxes trying to find his log book to let me know which one he flew, for both the Hurrie and the spit, and his markings and kill totals. I believe he had 4 with 2 probables and a damage to a H111. If I remember correctly, the others were 2 109's, and 2 stukas, and can't remember the probables. He flew with Johnie Johnson, and a few other Canucks. He also flew with Buzz Buerling for a while.

My hurrie I am doing for this build is one of 12 built and sent to Rumania. I believe on the first or second page of this thread, I posted a picture and info on the bird I am doing.

Do you happen to know what config of belts did the MK I have? I was under the impression that they had the over the top of seat tthrough the armor plate. Hope so, cause that is how I was planning on doing mine.

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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Posted by iflyprops on Monday, March 24, 2008 5:10 PM
 Reload wrote:

IDo you happen to know what config of belts did the MK I have? I was under the impression that they had the over the top of seat through the armor plate. Hope so, cause that is how I was planning on doing mine.

 

Me too, and its too late for me to change it as I already glued the fuselage and wings together... Oh well...

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 24, 2008 6:15 PM
FINALLY... progress will continue anew tonight.  Got a spray head and needle for the AB so I can start painting.

Marc  

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Posted by gzt on Monday, March 24, 2008 9:46 PM

Marc, thats great news.

 I am still searching for a perfect AB (not too happy about badger360) and I think I found one. I just got back from Barnes&Noble and brought Model Airplane International (March 2008). There is an article about Iwata AB (HP-BH with MAC). Reading this article was like a somebody made what I asked for Smile [:)]. That "Somebody" is asking for a bit too much Smile [:)]. Anyone here uses this AB ?

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Posted by Reload on Monday, March 24, 2008 10:08 PM

Marc, glad to hear your AB probs are solved.........it can be frusterating and I feel your pain...and relief!! 

So here I am, sitting at my table, getting ready to weather the seat, armor, and tubing frame when I can hear my Grandfather's voice....."YOU DAFT SOD" I come back to reality to realize that my British interior green looked a heck of alot like American interior green.....DOH...Banged Head [banghead]Sign - Oops [#oops]Taped Shut [XX] ..........ah well, the darker green made for some nice shading once I got the right color on there........Wink [;)]

Now that is drying, the instrument panel turned out pretty good. I used a satin black Krylon spray can, with silver artist pencil details, and a bit of red. FOr the glass, I tried window glue, and future, but I have found something 100 times better!!! I picked it up at Michaels Craft store and it is called "Aleene's" Paper Glaze. It is found with all the other glues, epoxy, and super glues. It does not shrink, and dries crystal hard, and glass clear. For around $3, can't go wrong. I will never go back. Here is the finished deal....comments / suggestions welcome.

OH, and I will be painting the tubing green by the way...and adding the gun sight...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Brent

 

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:04 PM

Brent,

Here's a link to Ultracast's website showing a Hurricane seat with the Sutton harness (which would be appropriate for a Mk.I) in place.

Marc- Glad to hear you got your AB problems sorted, nothing worse than an AB which doesn't spray properly!

Greg- I have read great things about the Iwatas, but have never tried one.  I use Badgers exclusively, and have had great luck with my 200 and 100LG. Smile [:)]

Frank 

 

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