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The P-51"mustang" Group Build. 2008

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Posted by arki30 on Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:52 PM

Quick progress pic.  Hey, it finally looks like something resembling a P-51!  Fit of the resin fuselage to the kit parts was really good.  I do have some seam work on the fuselage, particularly on the rudder area (rudder not installed yet). 

Either I begin the seam work next or install the PE in the wheel bays.  Haven't decided yet.

Cheers 

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:25 AM

For those of you too young to remember the Red Baron here's a little history.  She was a highly modified P-51D powered by a Rolls Griffon engine which turned two contrarotating props.  At one time she held the record for fastest piston engined aircraft at just over 499 mph.  She was lost in 1979 at the Reno Air Races after a supercharger bearing failed causing a shaft which drove the oil pump to fail.  As oil pressure dropped, the props turned flat causing the aircraft to crash in some rocks short of the runway.  Although the emergency teams were told by Bob Hoover, who was flying the pace plane that no one could have survived, they rushed to the crash site and saved the pilot, air racing legend Steve Hinton.  Steve Hinton survived and has gone on to a storied career in air racing and the restoration community.  Here's a couple of pics of RB-51 in her prime.

www.public.fotki.com/lewbud/group-build/redbaron1978mojave02.html

www.public.fotki.com/lewbud/group-build/redbaron197902enhanced.html

Enjoy.

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Posted by raptordriver on Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:15 PM

Hey this is awsome I come home and theres a bunch of life in this GB!Approve [^]

 

 lewbud wrote:

Was wondering if we were restricted to military a/c or could I inject some speed and color into this build?  I found a 1/72 kit of the Reno racer Red Baron and was wondering if it would qualify as well.

You bet that would qualify! That would be very interesting to see a racer in this.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:35 AM
Thanks, IL.

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:39 AM

Wow, Arki.  Nice work bud.

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Posted by lewbud on Friday, July 18, 2008 9:28 PM

Was wondering if we were restricted to military a/c or could I inject some speed and color into this build?  I found a 1/72 kit of the Reno racer Red Baron and was wondering if it would qualify as well.

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, July 18, 2008 1:12 PM
Thanks gents!  I don't know about "outstanding" Smile [:)] but I like to think I put together competent builds. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by dupes on Friday, July 18, 2008 7:24 AM
Wow, that IS looking good. Turning into an outstanding build as usual. Wink [;)]
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Posted by lewbud on Friday, July 18, 2008 4:06 AM

 Fyuri wrote:
I'll be posting some WIP photos shortly, I've almost completed the assembly and it's almost ready for the exterior paint. This looks like it'll be the first one I actually get done. I'm going to try and find some decent Tuskeegee Airmen decals for it.

Fyuri,

Don't know what scale you're building here's a start Aeromaster sheet AN48799 for 1/48 and AN72226 for 1/72.  Available through Squadron and probably most internet hobby shops.

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Posted by Fyuri on Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:52 PM
I'll be posting some WIP photos shortly, I've almost completed the assembly and it's almost ready for the exterior paint. This looks like it'll be the first one I actually get done. I'm going to try and find some decent Tuskeegee Airmen decals for it.
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Posted by raptordriver on Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:57 PM

wow Arki Thumbs Up [tup] Great job with the pit, All that aftermarket stuff works really good, I am going to try to after market the heck out of a P-47, but thats for later. Again awsome work.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by arki30 on Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:07 PM

As promised some progress pics of the cockpit.  Sorry about the photo quality, my lighting wasn't quite up to snuff and there's a little blurring in some photos. 

The Eduard PE is a nice addition although I didn't use all of it.  The Ultracast seat is always good quality.  The wood flooring didn't quite turn out as well as I would have liked, but not much of it will be visible anyway once the fuselage halves close up.  

And that's the next step. 

 

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Posted by arki30 on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:58 PM

Ok, I've managed to finish the cockpit and side walls.  I need to clean up the wash a little, and then I'll post some pics by tomorrow night.

 

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Posted by arki30 on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 10:46 PM
The fillet is the raised area just in front of the rudder.  On some P-51D's, the fillet was not installed. 

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Posted by raptordriver on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 10:17 PM
Great job arki thanks for posting I still don't know what  the fillet is?.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by arki30 on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 10:13 PM

A couple of quick progress pics.  I've installed some of the PE in various places.  The majority of the interior PE is pre-painted, so the next step is to paint the cockpit area in prep for the rest of the PE.  The color matching will be a pain. Dead [xx(] I've sanded some of the existing detail off the IP in prep for the color PE.  I have a few other areas to remove detail from.

I've also cleaned up the resin replacement fuselage halves.  In the pic I'm holding the replacement against the original.  I'm very impressed with Loon's quality.  The replacements are virtually identical to the original including interior detail and locating pins.  The only visible difference is the fillet. 

Not a lot of progress, but it's something.

 

 

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Posted by Vassar-13 on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 9:14 AM
Hey, don't scratch that 1/72 P-51B.  All I need are some decals and I'll get that one wrapped up too.
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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 6:55 AM

Nice build! Is that 1/72 scale? Thumbs Up [tup]

Be sure to update your WIP percentages in your profile! Wink [;)]

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Posted by kbuzz01 on Monday, July 7, 2008 8:02 PM

Great job, Vassar!  That's one nice early Mustang.  Thumbs Up [tup]

Man, that looks like a rough runway - hope you've got good tires on that baby!  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Ken 

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Posted by arki30 on Monday, July 7, 2008 7:59 PM
Nice job, Vassar! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by raptordriver on Monday, July 7, 2008 6:17 PM

Great job VassarThumbs Up [tup] thats one to be proud of. Are you still planning to do your other 1/72 Stang? if not I will take it off for you.

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Posted by Vassar-13 on Monday, July 7, 2008 9:42 AM

Got my Mustang finished for the GB.  It's an Accurate Miniatures P-51A.

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Posted by arki30 on Sunday, July 6, 2008 10:02 PM

I've managed to wash all parts down and peruse the PE pieces.  I realized upon review that I hadn't bought just the interior PE upgrade but an interior and exterior PE upgrade.  Sign - Dots [#dots]  I'm all for extra detail but the extra work doesn't necessarily thrill me.  Oh well, I won't use all of it anyway.

Suddenly the resin fuselage is looking like the easy part.  Big Smile [:D]Black Eye [B)]

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, July 4, 2008 4:55 PM

Sorta. Big Smile [:D]  Certainly the wings, landing gear, elevators, canopy, cockpit, etc. are still good.  

I'll use the left-over fuselage halves for paint experiments.  

The intent with the drop-in replacement is to eliminiate any cutting, as opposed to the resin replacement tails.  I dunno, we'll see how this goes. Blindfold [X-)]

Happy 4th everyone! 

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Posted by dupes on Friday, July 4, 2008 8:23 AM

A drop in FUSELAGE? Doesn't that pretty much render most of the original kit useless? Shock [:O]

I know you're good with the cutting-and-fitting stuff (not to mention the filling-and-sanding stuff) so I'm glad it's you and not me. Wink [;)]

Can't wait to see this one go together! 

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Posted by arki30 on Thursday, July 3, 2008 8:47 PM

Meh, aside from the fuselage most of the AM is pretty easy small stuff.  This won't even get close to my Mosquito build in terms of effort to incorporate it all. 

I hope. Whistling [:-^]

I'm looking forward to starting it.  

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Posted by raptordriver on Thursday, July 3, 2008 8:20 PM
Arki thats pretty awsome, but thats sure alot of AM. Laugh [(-D] Looks like a good choice for the paint scheme, Eaglestike/Aeromaster, have Tons! of P-51 options.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by arki30 on Thursday, July 3, 2008 8:01 PM

Ok, as promised Andrew here's what I'll be building for this GB.

The kit will be the great 1/48th Tamiya P-51D.  I've built this kit before and it almost falls together.  Probably 3/4 of the kits in my stash have some measure of AM accessories and this one has quite a bit although most of it is minor.  I'll be adding Ultracast exhausts, props and spinner, wheels, flaps, and seat; Eduard canopy mask and interior PE set; Eaglestrike decals and one other item of note which I'll get to in a sec.

 

The markings will be of this aircraft.

Sharp-eyed observers will note this particular aircraft is a filletless P-51D.  The Tamiya kit is a filleted P-51D.  

There are several aftermarket replacement tails to build a filletless P-51D, but I decided to try something that had come out about a year or so ago.  I'll be using the Loon Models resin replacement filletless fuselage.

It's an entire drop replacement resin fuselage for the Tamiya kit.  I'm pretty interested to see how well this works. Big Smile [:D]Blindfold [X-)]

I'll get a start on this after the holiday.

Cheers 

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, June 27, 2008 9:31 AM
Thanks Frank, I might build more.Smile [:)]

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by thuds1 on Friday, June 27, 2008 9:07 AM

  Andrew,

 Great job on your aircraft , you keep getting better at this. Are there any more P51s

 from our leader ? I still have to get with my daughter to get these pictures posted ,

 but if I need any help, I will e mail you .

 Frank C

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