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The P-51"mustang" Group Build. 2008

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Posted by raptordriver on Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:39 PM
bump bump bump BUMP!!

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by avadon on Thursday, May 8, 2008 2:42 PM
Those are some seriously nice looking mustangs!!
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Posted by Cruzr on Thursday, May 8, 2008 10:33 AM
Thanks, now i'll just try to do this GB justice  lol
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Posted by raptordriver on Thursday, May 8, 2008 7:55 AM

Got you in Cruzr thanks, I think the revell kit is pretty nice.

Ken Ok got it.  Both nice stangs.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by kbuzz01 on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 10:30 PM

Thanks, guys.

Raptor, I think I'll set the Hasagawa aside for now - have a couple other GBs underway.

Here are my Revell and Tamiya as buddies.

Ken 

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Posted by arki30 on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 10:07 PM
Nice clean build, Ken. Thumbs Up [tup]  

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Posted by Cruzr on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 10:06 PM
Raptor: I would like to jump in this GB if you don't mind. I just picked up Revell's 1/48 51-D. i know not the best kit out there, but it'll be a fun challenge to make the best of it.
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Posted by raptordriver on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:58 PM

Great job Ken. Thumbs Up [tup] Big Smile [:D] I really like the Air National Gaurd planes. Planning on doing the Hasegawa one? if not just tell me. Thank you for showing us.

By the way, I forgot to install the landing light to. Tongue [:P]

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by kbuzz01 on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:48 PM

Here's my Revell P-51D (actually, post-Korean, I guess, it would be F-51).  It was built OOB with a few added features - drilled out exhausts, drilled out styrene guns, added brake lines, and added wheel-well plumbing.  Decals are a combination of kit, Eagle Strike, and home-grown.  There are a few inaccuracies -  I didn't cut out and drop the flaps, and I think the original 3223 had a non-cuffed prop.

I had previously built the Tamiya F-51, and it sure was a heckuva lot easier to fit together than this one!

This aircraft was one of about 25 P-51s assigned to the South Dakota Air National Guard which was formed in 1946, with Joe Foss, marine ace and Medal of Honor recipient as the first Commander.  These aircraft were flown by the 175th FIS until 1954, when the unit was equipped with T-33s and F-94A and Bs.  Since then, they have flown F-94Cs, F-89Js, F-102s, F100Ds, A-7Ds, and currently, F-16C/Ds.  I survived the sequence from P-51 thru F-102 during my part- and full-time with the ANG/USAF.  Sorry if this is too long-winded.  Hope you enjoy the pics.

       

Holy Cow!!  Just noticed I forgot to install the landing light and pitot!  Confused [%-)]

Ken 

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Posted by dirtball on Monday, May 5, 2008 3:20 PM
   Hi guys. Dont mean to rob your thread, but if you`d like to see Jerry Rutmans resin parts for the Trump P51C, I`ve posted pics in the aircraft forum. Thanks.............Harv
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Posted by kg4kpg on Monday, May 5, 2008 11:01 AM
Yeah, I was concerned it would get thick but it really came out pretty good with the MM RRLM paint.  What I actually meant on getting ahead was that I meant to take some pics before I got this far along, but this kit is really a simple one so I was this before along the firsy day of the build.  I'll be waiting for the decals for a while though, coming regular post from Canada.  Guy said 2 to 6 weeks.  I look forward to seeing your floatplanes, good luck with your grading.
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Posted by JMart on Monday, May 5, 2008 10:51 AM

kg4kpg - interesting choice of marking, something different for sure! And nice paint job so far, yellow can be such a pain....

as for "pace" of build ..lol.. I only have TWO speeds : behind schedule and late ;)

I still have my IJN/IJA floatplanes and a couple targets to do before this one.. on the other hand, semester will be over next week and I can spend more time building and less time grading crappy papers and posting grades :D 

Cheers

 

 

 

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Posted by kg4kpg on Monday, May 5, 2008 9:19 AM
 ridleusmc wrote:

Great work on that Luftwaffe Mustang.  Captured aircraft really make for some interesting paint schemes.  I was little thrown off by the yellow belly, but I guess that would be a good indicator for German pilots and AAA gunners.  It looks cool. 

Don't worry too much about being ahead of schedule.  Even in a GB, your pace is completely up to you.  You just need to TRY to have the project complete before the complete date.  Am I wrong fellas?

Semper Fi,

Chris

From what I've been reading, the yellow belly aircraft were used for flight testing and training.  They were taken to the various units so the German pilots could fly them to learn their weaknesses.  What's funny is some of them were lost to their own AA fire.  They also had several B-17's and 4 B-24's, I'll do one of those later.

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Posted by arki30 on Monday, May 5, 2008 8:38 AM

Nope.  There's no such thing as "ahead of schedule" in a GB.  You're either on schedule or behind.  Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by ridleusmc on Monday, May 5, 2008 2:17 AM

Great work on that Luftwaffe Mustang.  Captured aircraft really make for some interesting paint schemes.  I was little thrown off by the yellow belly, but I guess that would be a good indicator for German pilots and AAA gunners.  It looks cool. 

Don't worry too much about being ahead of schedule.  Even in a GB, your pace is completely up to you.  You just need to TRY to have the project complete before the complete date.  Am I wrong fellas?

Semper Fi,

Chris

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Posted by raptordriver on Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:29 PM
Hey Kg great job man Thumbs Up [tup] Its alright with me you got ahead beyond schedule. Smile [:)] looks very close to being finished.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by kg4kpg on Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:34 PM

Okay, finallt got a couple progress pics.  I little farther in than I planned, sorry.  I still have a long way to go on this one.

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, May 3, 2008 7:37 PM
Yep, that answers it nicely.

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Posted by avadon on Saturday, May 3, 2008 4:46 PM
 avadon wrote:
 arki30 wrote:

Bingo. Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid]  Dupes nailed it.

To answer your other question, I believe you're referring to the invasion stripes seen on many P-51's?

 

So what exactly was the point on putting invasion stripes on P-51's, P-38's and other allied aircraft? Other then ruining the camoflauge what purpose did this signify? Was it just a way to give solidarity to all the allied forces? Did other countries use the invasion stripes? Was it supposed to instill fear? Why did they choose black and white as colors and what is the significance of it?

 

ooops answered my own question

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_stripes

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Posted by avadon on Saturday, May 3, 2008 4:43 PM
 arki30 wrote:

Bingo. Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid]  Dupes nailed it.

To answer your other question, I believe you're referring to the invasion stripes seen on many P-51's?

 

So what exactly was the point on putting invasion stripes on P-51's, P-38's and other allied aircraft? Other then ruining the camoflauge what purpose did this signify? Was it just a way to give solidarity to all the allied forces? Did other countries use the invasion stripes? Was it supposed to instill fear? Why did they choose black and white as colors and what is the significance of it?

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Posted by raptordriver on Thursday, May 1, 2008 8:11 AM

Its alright guys, Wink [;)] I wouldnt have allowed it if it had been finished 3 weeks ago or something like that. Yes he should of signed up but I don't think there's very many pirate P-51's out there motorized. I had to put it on the roster since he just got it done. Big Smile [:D]

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by avadon on Thursday, May 1, 2008 1:18 AM
 dupes wrote:

In progress pics not only help others with their builds, but can help YOU with yours! I don't know how many times I've had someone spot something I missed...always helps to have an "objective eye" take a look at your stuff. Blindfold [X-)]

Also, the "G" in "GB" stands for "Group". Wink [;)] If you're going to keep your build entirely to yourself w/out participating in the discussion about the GB topic, then it's really no different than just building something and posting it in the appropriate forum. Just my My 2 cents [2c], of course. Big Smile [:D]

Yah i'm just not very chatty, between blacksmithing at work and trying to have a life I can only hit up here and there on this board in little bits. I also kinda dislike going through 30 pages to see the pictures of three different aircraft, although I did like the trick that someone did when they were at least kind enough to show what page each persons finished model was on.

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Posted by arki30 on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:01 PM

Bingo. Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid]  Dupes nailed it.

To answer your other question, I believe you're referring to the invasion stripes seen on many P-51's?

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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:55 PM

In progress pics not only help others with their builds, but can help YOU with yours! I don't know how many times I've had someone spot something I missed...always helps to have an "objective eye" take a look at your stuff. Blindfold [X-)]

Also, the "G" in "GB" stands for "Group". Wink [;)] If you're going to keep your build entirely to yourself w/out participating in the discussion about the GB topic, then it's really no different than just building something and posting it in the appropriate forum. Just my My 2 cents [2c], of course. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by avadon on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:54 PM
 kg4kpg wrote:
 avadon wrote:

 arki30 wrote:
Raptor, it's your group build so it's your call, but my My 2 cents [2c] is this doesn't count as participation in the GB.  Nice model, cool what-if scheme, but didn't sign up and no progress pics.

I'm new to finescale. You can count it or not, i'm just here to have fun. I'm not one to take progress pics of any of my models, seems like it just drags on and on that way. Plus I think people often bump their own threads to much by doing one small thing on a model and then posting progress ad nasium. Everyone just wants to see the finished plane lol.

 I'm guessing we don't "win" anything in these group builds? and that it just for show, correct?

Generally from what I've seen so far some GB's allow the model to be a certain percentage complete to quailfy, some you can't have started at all.  Depends on the guy running it I guess.  I've seen some with a raffle at the end but again, depends on the person running it.  I'm like you, not fond of progress pics, but if I join a GB I try to get a few in.  You never know, something you show may help the next guy.

I think anything I do regardinig progress pics should be classified under "Pitfalls to be avoided" rather then "do what I do" lol Tongue [:P]

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Posted by kg4kpg on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:48 PM
 avadon wrote:

 arki30 wrote:
Raptor, it's your group build so it's your call, but my My 2 cents [2c] is this doesn't count as participation in the GB.  Nice model, cool what-if scheme, but didn't sign up and no progress pics.

I'm new to finescale. You can count it or not, i'm just here to have fun. I'm not one to take progress pics of any of my models, seems like it just drags on and on that way. Plus I think people often bump their own threads to much by doing one small thing on a model and then posting progress ad nasium. Everyone just wants to see the finished plane lol.

 I'm guessing we don't "win" anything in these group builds? and that it just for show, correct?

Generally from what I've seen so far some GB's allow the model to be a certain percentage complete to quailfy, some you can't have started at all.  Depends on the guy running it I guess.  I've seen some with a raffle at the end but again, depends on the person running it.  I'm like you, not fond of progress pics, but if I join a GB I try to get a few in.  You never know, something you show may help the next guy.

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Posted by avadon on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:08 PM

 arki30 wrote:
Raptor, it's your group build so it's your call, but my My 2 cents [2c] is this doesn't count as participation in the GB.  Nice model, cool what-if scheme, but didn't sign up and no progress pics.

I'm new to finescale. You can count it or not, i'm just here to have fun. I'm not one to take progress pics of any of my models, seems like it just drags on and on that way. Plus I think people often bump their own threads to much by doing one small thing on a model and then posting progress ad nasium. Everyone just wants to see the finished plane lol.

 I'm guessing we don't "win" anything in these group builds? and that it just for show, correct?

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Posted by avadon on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:03 PM
This is prolly a common question, but what do they call the black and white stripes on P-51's and what are their purpose?
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Posted by arki30 on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:03 PM
Raptor, it's your group build so it's your call, but my My 2 cents [2c] is this doesn't count as participation in the GB.  Nice model, cool what-if scheme, but didn't sign up and no progress pics.

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Posted by avadon on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:23 PM

 raptordriver wrote:
Avadon thats awsome Thumbs Up [tup] Who knows what those pirates would do with that. Big Smile [:D]

 

I'm guessing protect their pirate zep and all its loot. :D

 

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