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Posted by raider83 on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:03 PM
Hey nam, do you know when exactly the PBY is coming out? I might be interested in getting one.
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Posted by namrednef on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:49 PM

 

Me too FJ, me too. Thanks for that.

I am off all next week.....not vacation..........due to slow business! So I have to beg off from the Noreastcon this weekendBoohoo [BH]....can't spare the mad money, in case things don't pick up soon!

But I will be building the 1/48 PBY-5 I mentioned in other posts, once it is re-released in June. I'm really torn about buying two and trying to replicate that famous photo of the bombed out PBY on the apron during Pearl. We'll see......the kit is supposed to be about $22 per.....so it's affordable.

Let's post some thinking here folks! 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:03 PM

david i have most of these photos thanks to many folks from around the world.  seen in this way they are very moving.  i had tears in my eyes when i watched it.

 

 

 

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Posted by namrednef on Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:59 AM

 

Thanks FJ..........moving is the word.

I actually saw some photos I'd never seen before......... 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, April 12, 2008 3:53 PM

while playing a bit i saw this. 

 

pearl harbor video

 

 

very moving.  

 

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Posted by namrednef on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 4:59 PM

 

Hi Joe and All! Going to Noreastcon in upstate NY at end of month (Of course there is a shopping list!)

But I have learned that RevelloGram is re-issuing the PBY-5a at the end of June! Tower Hobbies will have them. So I will be building that for this build. But while at the Noreastcon.....I will be fishing for another project.Wink [;)]

(Whew!) I did my research at a site Joe provided and was glad to see that there were PBY-5's at Pearl that day. Along with nearly every other PBY variant! 

12/07/41! 

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Posted by namrednef on Monday, March 31, 2008 11:33 PM

 

Bill.....great stuff.....thanks........

Joe.....Wow!......lotsa work!

I looked up Fort Drum.....there's a site.....cannot easily post links with M/F

Look up www.concretebattleships.org 

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, March 31, 2008 12:19 AM
 namrednef wrote:

 

Bill what a great idea for a project! No way on Earth I would've thought of it!

I'm curious about the 'cast iron' bit. The tower was built of cast iron sections or panels? That seems very strange.

 

Here's a link. High towers built to a pattern were easily replicated in cast iron. Its seems to be a trade-off where mass so overcomes any tension created by winds, that gravity is king.

They were also somehow erected by an internal jib of a simple design section by section.

http://www.nps.gov/history/maritime/constype/cast.htm

This is going to be fun.

I'm estimating the tower to be less than 200 feet tall, which means at 1/350 it'll be about 6 inches tall. But I'll include the base building and maybe a little apron with a few palms.

Here's alink to a model of Pearl Harbor done at 1/700.

http://steelnavy.com/FordIslandRS.htm

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:01 PM

nam there is no kit.  it would have to be all scratched.  i have seen pics of several forts in the philipenes however not sure of the names.  they have one of the two remaining disappearing guns though.

 

 

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Posted by namrednef on Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:52 AM

 

Bill what a great idea for a project! No way on Earth I would've thought of it!

I'm curious about the 'cast iron' bit. The tower was built of cast iron sections or panels? That seems very strange.

Fightin' Joe.... I too have always been fascinated by the disappearing guns and other coastal artillery. An articulated model would be tough, but fun! Do they make a kit?

Also: Have you ever researched the Fort Drum that was situated in the water near the mouth of Manila Bay? I believe it was a steel and concrete structure built upon some protruding rocks. It was in the shape of an old battleship's foredeck (I can't spell foc'sal except for forecastle) It featured two large caliber double(?) or triple(?) gun turrets.

My ship (USS Fresno LST-1182) passed it twice in 1974.....both times I was on duty in the engine room. The only pic I ever saw was pre-war. I'm going to look it up, but wondered if any here had heard of it.Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:02 AM

bill it sounds like a great project.  i have been working on getting info on a project like that myself.  for me the disappearing guns are most interesting and i want to build one. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:58 PM

I never seem to get my act together, but at long last...

I will be building a model of the Ford Island Air Traffic Control Tower, probably at 1/350.

I've contacted them for plans and have started drawings. It's a cast iron structure that actually dovetails with one of my other interests- lighthouses.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:04 PM

got the pm and replied.  i look forward to your work.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by JMart on Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:44 PM

Joe, i would love to participate, sending you a PM with more details, will attempt to build the Tamiya A6M2 Zero (Zeke) w/PH markings, wont be able to start until late summer.

 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, March 23, 2008 5:38 PM

an edit:

 

ships of the first combined fleet are also ok for this build.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by telsono on Monday, March 17, 2008 11:20 AM

Bondoman -

The stencils come from a set of 1/48 instrument dials from Mike Grant Decals. They just happened to be the right size. Some of the dials on the IP come from that set and others are just dry brushed.

fightnjoe - No I don't have that book, may need to add it to my collection. I did use this book from Peregrine Press on early cockpits. It gives only a psge to each aircraft, but they are colored photo's. Great Models carries it, but it recently went out of stock.  Also read in "Gabby, A fighter Pilot's Life" Francis Gabreski with Carl Molesworth on Schiffer Publishing, about his time in Hawaii

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, March 17, 2008 7:51 AM

telsono have you the detail in scale for the p-40 volume 1?  it has great pictures of the interior and exterior of a redone p-36 in those markings.  the interior is shown as all alum.  the exterior appears as nmf top and bottom with the exception of the flying surfaces they were the dope

 

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:20 PM
The gray under should be neutral gray. There are a lot of schemes from that era that are transitional, like yellow wings with OD fuselage, OD with blue nacelles, that I've seen, tho primarily as models and since I took a few liberties with my B-12Whistling [:-^] you never know. Tail feathers  were pretty common on OD aircraft, too. And big serials on the rear fuse sides in stencil type. Telsono- great IP, I wish I knew how to do that!
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Posted by telsono on Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:58 PM

Joe;

I decided to do a baremetal version of the P-36. According to Francis Gabreski, the P-36 was considered obsolete so they were not subject to the placement at the center of the field. Subsequently, more of these survived the initial onslaught and patrols were sent up with these aircraft. Gabby was one of thsoe pilots, a young Lt.

Some views of the office prior to assembly of the fuselage.

From what I have read, the bare metal version had a aluminum painted cockpit interior.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, March 7, 2008 7:14 AM

dan you are right.

p-40's were od over gray.  the peashooters were changing to od over gray but there seems to be some evidence of pre war schemes.  i have seen pics of prewar schemes (cant seem to find them to offer them to you) so that scheme would be ok.

 

 

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Posted by dostacos on Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:55 PM

ok, I presume the P -40s were OD in color top/sides with a light blue/gray under side

 

BUT were the peashooters still in the old yellow wing colors?

if so I might be forced to do one of theseWhistling [:-^]

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Posted by enemeink on Thursday, March 6, 2008 12:50 PM

I found this website that lists the planes that were there during the attack. I think i'm going to do a P-40.

http://www.ww2pacific.com/aaf41.html

 

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Posted by dostacos on Thursday, March 6, 2008 1:39 AM
p-40 if I finally finish my other planes Whistling [:-^] revell 1/48
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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, March 5, 2008 8:57 PM

i agree.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by namrednef on Saturday, March 1, 2008 11:50 AM

 

Chilling stuffAngry [:(!]

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, March 1, 2008 11:43 AM
everyone is welcome to join.  

1941  

jan 1...ambassador grew in japan writes the american ideas of appeasment are utterly hopeless.

jan 24...japanese admiral yamamoto comments "we (japan) would have to dictate the terms of peace in the white house."  he wondered if the japanese political leaders would be prepared for such a war.

jan 27...ambassador grew is informed of a possible japanese attack on the fleet at pearl harbor.  washington downplays this.  in japan adm yamamoto continues to analyse and plan an attack on the hawaiian islands.

feb 5...adm kimmel (newly appointed cincpac) is told that hostilities with japan would possibly start with a suprise attack on hawaii.

feb15...adm kimmel issues a letter stating the possiblity of an attack by japan on hawaii.

late feb...a report containing ten possible attack plans is given for indepth analysis.  at this point nine are rejected including one for an invasion of the hawaiian islands.

march 10...the final plan for operation hawaii is passed back to adm yamamoto.



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Posted by telsono on Monday, February 25, 2008 6:18 PM

This is great, last night I took out my 1/32 Special Hobbies kit of the P-36 Pearl Harbor Defenders and started it, I guess you can count me in.

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Posted by enemeink on Monday, February 25, 2008 3:43 PM
i'd love to do this I just don't know what i want to build. i'll dig into the history and let you know.
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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:48 PM

nam i had it on good authority that the b-18 was going to be released two .............three...............one..............this...............well shoot. 

 

i am still going with an sbd-1.

 

 

 

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Posted by namrednef on Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:19 PM

Hey folks!

I have it on good authority that the Revell 1/48 PBY is being reissued this June! No more Ebay frustration!

Still keeping my eye on the PH B-17 though

Keep 'em flying! 

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