WW2 Medium Bomber GB

Thats all folks!!

I have to post all the pics onthe aircraft forum for our little contest in a couple of days. Until then...

1 last Day!

Dave, looks good. I also hate round curvey things that need a straight line/ masking. You may want to fix the front wheel, it looks kinda tippy and you should try to use some washes to bring out panel lines or lines between control surfaces and the wing. The big air force decals look pretty good and the paint job looks nice and smooth.

You other guys might want to hurry up!!!!!

YEAH!!!! I dropped a front wheel for my Do-335A-12, and while looking for that I found the rear ladder for this plane. I'm calling this one done. I still have to learn to mask off the round things...(on this one I'm refering to the Yellow ring that in on the engine cowling, I ended up trying my hand at brushing it, not so good.)

Several fit issues with this one, but I've had worse.

Comments & constructive crit. always welcome.

, Dave

Howdy y'all....almost done....have to get pics on the camera, but I need to find the rear ladder....fell off and is MIA.  (How big of parts can the carpet monster consume anyway?)

, Dave

An address would be helpful.

Great can't wait to see it

P.S. Check out my website- i just started it though so it kinda sucks. I would really like some suggestions. THX

lewbud wrote:

I'm still here.

Good to see someone is!

I'm still here.

Man is anybody still in this Group Build, I feel like im posting to myself. LOL

HERE IT IS!!!

Finally my Marauder is finished! This thing has fought my all the way and i am glad for it to be over with. Surprisingly the decals were the best part of this kit, I though. Should have pics up tomorrow or tuesday. C U then.

Ryan! I've got some previous commitments nearly out of the way and have begun the B-26 and will be posting more regularly. Fuse is painted inside a couple minor assembly's started.

See you soon!

Great work people!

Just realized I never posted pictures of the Romeo 57bis when I finished it. 

This model is really starting to get me P-Oed. I have been doing the painting on it but when i pulled of the tape for the masks, paint started to peel off. I am guessing that i didn't wash the plastic correctly before painting making the paint not stick well. Heres the mess that i have to deal with now:

To those that are making progress or have finished well done.  There's some good work going on round here.  Got a few builds to finish before I can get started.

I'm finished!  One thing I'd like to do is take better pictures, so I apologize for the quality (or lack thereof) of these photographs.

B-25B Mitchell

B-26 - I used the color photograph from this book that I have as inspiration for the weathering, which was Tamiya soot and rust applied over Alclad II white aluminium.

kg4kpg wrote:

Finally made some progress.  The painting and decals are done and have a coat of future over-all.  Now an am on to panel lines and weathering.  Not my strong point so any advice for a plane that is supposed to have heavy wear at this point in her career.  The final small bits will wait until all paint work is done.  Any advice for exhaust without using an airbrush?  Over-all dusty/dirty?  Faded paint? C'ya

Its comin along good! I use chalk pastels to make exhaust staining but it works better on a flat coat. You could also try using a oil wash.

Finally made some progress.  The painting and decals are done and have a coat of future over-all.  Now an am on to panel lines and weathering.  Not my strong point so any advice for a plane that is supposed to have heavy wear at this point in her career.  The final small bits will wait until all paint work is done.  Any advice for exhaust without using an airbrush?  Over-all dusty/dirty?  Faded paint?

C'ya

Some progress pictures.   I am getting close on the B-26 and am not far behind with the Mitchell.  Both of these kits have fought me at nearly every step, or so it seems.  I had expected that with the old Monogram kit but not with the Accurate Miniatures B-25.

B-25 - the wings are not yet attached, they are just put on for the picture.  I put down a coat of Future and let it sit for a day before masking the wing de-icers, but as the picture shows some of the olive drab lifted nevertheless.  Probably didn't get it well coated there or didn't let it cure long enough.

B-26 - nothing to really point out here as yet.  Since the photo was taken I have since put on the decals in preparation for some pretty heavy weathering.  Photos I have show the undersides of these bombers got really dirty, oil streaked, and grimy.

Ends March 31, '09.

 My A-20 has been sitting for a while but I'll edit this post this weekend with some of the work I've gotten done this week.  Funny how you get on to other builds and get distracted for a while.  I'm ready to get this one done.

Some progress to report on my builds.  I've had some unexpected time at the bench due to Hurricane Ike, in and around hurricane winds, loss of power, and clean up activities.

B-25 - not as much progress on this kit, just finished up the window maskings (Acc.Min provides masking material like Eduard canopy masks but some of the pieces are cut too big for the actual kit).

B-26 - have finished constructing all of the individual components and have put down a nice coat of Krylon gloss black in preparation for the Alclad II painting sessions to come.

Dr. Faust wrote:

Hey Guys!, Glad to see all the great work happen' here! I want to report my progress on my Italeri/AM B-25 Here is a overall (Or a fornite spck o' me rum runnin maiden wench????) HA HA HA!!?     and a few close ups I know some of the interior details will never be seen. but I am having a blast painting and building this twin engine bomber. I hope to have more progress to post soon. Untill then, carry on my fellow modlers!   (Pirate talk optional(

Wow that is really great looking. The detail level looks awesome!

Hey Guys!,

Glad to see all the great work happen' here!

I want to report my progress on my Italeri/AM B-25

Here is a overall (Or a fornite spck o' me rum runnin maiden wench????) HA HA HA!!?  

and a few close ups

I know some of the interior details will never be seen. but I am having a blast painting and building this twin engine bomber.

I hope to have more progress to post soon.

Untill then, carry on my fellow modlers!

(Pirate talk optional(

browsing the back pages of the group builds.... :)

nice work going on here !

gotta find me a kit... my JU86 wont qualify! too wimpy!

Aggieman that marauder is really coming along! Most of the pics that i saw of the turret showed that it didn't have any framework, thanks for your help. 

I've made a lot of progress on my builds for this GB but for some reason have been so focused on building that I've forgotten to take a bunch of photographs.  Sorry!!!!

So I've taken a few today to post.

Accurate Miniatures B-25B Doolittle Raider - it's been a while since I put together an Acc.Min kit, but I don't remember having so much fight to get one together as this one.  All of that wonderful detail is crammed into that tight fuselage and it was difficult to get the pieces to mate together properly.  In the end I believe I only have one small seam to fill, because once I got them to click together, they acted like they had been that way all along.

Here's a decent shot of the seam I'm going to have to deal with:

The bomb bay with the additional fuel tank that was collapsible once it was empty:

The upper gun turret - instructions said to install it but I'm going to get it in there through the upper turret opening:

The nose floor board:

Monogram B-26 Marauder - this is one of those old kits that fights you most of the way.  This example included a bunch of resin extras but most of those pieces I've had to leave out.  Had I installed the cockpit side walls I would not have been able to install the resin floorboard, ditto with the front wheel well.  I have put together the fuselage and masked all of the windows (except for the observer windows located in multiple places, I'll get to that later).  I also installed all of the gear doors as this bird will be "flying" along side my other medium bombers currently hanging in my garage.

The bomb bay:

Here the wings are simply hanging from the fuselage frame, they are not attached yet.  I'm still debating whether I'm ready to attach the wings at this point.  I plan to paint this in an all aluminum scheme using Alclad II paints on top of a Krylon gloss black primer.  I already know there is going to be some seam work required on both the wings and the engine nacelles, but I may elect to leave all of that off and paint each piece individually, weather each, then attach and do the putty work, then paint over the seams from there.  Not sure yet.

Side view:

Ryan, sorry but I don't have a scanner to send you the picture I am using from the book I have, the Warbird Tech series on the B-26.  I'm not even sure I can describe it, but the big rounded part appears to be completely free of any framework.  There's a smaller window on each side directly beneath the stabilizers, and perhaps a second even smaller window below that.  Hasn't been real clear even with the book.

Edit - ooops, I got mixed up on which turret you were talking about and mistakenly thought the tail gun.  Well, today is the first day of school here, so perhaps I should go back for some reading comprehension? 

does anyone know how the framework on the rear dorsal turret of the B-26 looked? pics and any other info would be appreciated

thanks,

I now have the major assembly done. Because this is such an old kit the wings and fuselage needed lots of putty as you will see in the pictures.

12Wings wrote:

lewbud wrote: Thanks Arki.  According to Wikipedia it does so I'm in with a RoG He-111 in 1/72 scale.   sorry lewbud that i didn't catch your post earlier, must have been too excited to see viper's finished plane. I'll add you to the list your in!

No prob.  Thanks.  Got some other GB's ahead of this, but it's great to be thinning the stacks a little.

lewbud wrote:

Thanks Arki.  According to Wikipedia it does so I'm in with a RoG He-111 in 1/72 scale.

sorry lewbud that i didn't catch your post earlier, must have been too excited to see viper's finished plane. I'll add you to the list your in!

Thanks Arki.  According to Wikipedia it does so I'm in with a RoG He-111 in 1/72 scale.

I'll try again.  I'd like to join this build but was wondering if the He-111 would qualify.

Picked up this little set. Really neat looking barrels for the B-26.

Josh

Well, caught another snag. Waiting for a photoetch bender to come in. I've seen a few different ways of going about bending it and this just seems the "safest".

Seeing if there isn't a few other things I can do on it while waiting for that to come in.

Josh

Well, though it was an uphill battle all the way, my B-25 is finally done.  This is the Revell B-25, box scale [around 1/96th] and the mold is from 1953. I built it mostly OOB, with only minor scratch building to add a rear bulkhead to the cockpit and nose gunner [to hide the lead weights.] The color is a mixture that I had made up for my P-39Q, however it came out very different on this model due to its grey primer base, versus the OD base of the -39.  Enjoy!

Would the He-111 qualify for this build?

Well, I finished the Romeo 57 Bis.  So I decided to go back to my original entry and do it as well.  Its the Monogram 1/72 Classic B-25.  I'm building this for this build, the bomber/escort/tanker build, and the classic kit build....since it goes for all three.

The figures arent the best, so they got basic painting.  I did manage to scratchbuild some bulkheads in the ockpit and nose to block off the open fuselage [showing the nose weights].  Speaking of weights, I THOUGHT I was good when I put 4 pine wood derby weights under the cockpit....wrong.  I had to add two to each engine nacelle [front of it] and another 3 to the nose before it would sit right.  And speaking of stance, when on its wheels, should a B-25 have a nose up cant, or should the fuselage be parallel to the ground?  The kit gear gives it a very visible upward cant.  Oh, and masking the canopy was a nightmare.  The molded in frame....is on the inside. The outside is perfectly smooth.

Here's a few pics so far. 

Here are some pics:

This is the completely scrachbuilt radio compartment:

Here is the rear turret: 

Nice work FastasF on the turret. I should have some WIP pics by Sunday on my Italeri B-25. Keep up the great work all!  How bout some pics 12, I want to see your excellent work! Thanks for hosting this GB Bro.

Picture of the gunner without the glass on.

Got my Eduard kit in the mail and my True Details USA wheel kit will be in either tomorrow or Friday.

I can finally resume progress on it now, YAY!

Wow I can hear the crickets!

I don't have any pics but I figured I'd tell you where i am in my build. i've been working on the rear gunner station which has almoast no detail I also have the engines weathered and put into the cowls. School is almost over( Next Week yeh BABY!) so i'll be able to get working again plus i'll have some pics.

I want to apologize to this group build. I left a three star rating when I intended to give four stars. I dont know how to correct this.

Sorry guys. I think this GB is very good!

Ordered a Eduard bomb bay detail kit for the B-26 as the stock Revell one is pretty sparse. So when that gets in i'll post a few pics.

Finished the top turret and gunner that goes in it. Also got the props done.

I can't wait until it gets near completion, it's gonna' be pretty cool looking. I've always loved bigger planes.

Bioya wrote:

I would like to build a Marine Corp B-25(PBJ). All references I've seen seem to show a two color flat blue with a flat grey underside. Does anyone have any color recommendations? Prefer Tamiya or Model Master acrylics, but will consider all other brands and enamels. Have not seen any in the three color scheme with the lighter blue between the blue and grey. Were any that scheme? Thanks in advance for any help.

Your in, as for all your questions I have no clue. Maybe some of the other guys will know.

So, this is what I have been given to work with ...

And this is what I would like it to look a little more like ...

Any ideas? Specifically on what size wire I should use for all the lines?

I would like to build a Marine Corp B-25(PBJ). All references I've seen seem to show a two color flat blue with a flat grey underside. Does anyone have any color recommendations? Prefer Tamiya or Model Master acrylics, but will consider all other brands and enamels.

Have not seen any in the three color scheme with the lighter blue between the blue and grey. Were any that scheme? Thanks in advance for any help.

Can you hear that? Crickets. It's dead in here, lol. 

Finally got an update picture.

I have no idea what color to paint that padded parachute looking thing on the wall. Anyone have any ideas?

No pictures as of yet but I got the inside of the fuselage halves painted up interior green and also one of the turrets. Started on the props too.

Hopefully I can get to posting some pictures tomorrow. (After I go watch a B-17 land here in Spokane, YAY!).

Here is a cool B-26 Marauder video I found on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NESw-Pfp6cg

In between minutes 8 and 9 there is some footage of a direct flak hit on one. And towards the begining there is one flying on one engine. Really cool video!

Another update!

I scratchbuilt the whole radio compartment to hide the weights that will be able to be seen through the cockpit. I also glued the elevators on (these came seperate from the hortizontal stabilizers). I also glued the tail together. I cut off the rudder's trim tab and glued it on in a different position to give it some character:

All comments welcomed!

OKay, got these questions all figured out.

Okay, wings are on and after a few seems are cleaned up we're going to paint.

kg4kpg wrote:

user="#12Wings"] kg4kgp, lookinn good. What kind of engines did the Havoc use? According to Daveswarbirds.com it used Wright R-2600-23 with 1600 hp each.

Yep, just to interject on the A-20 powerplant, Horse Power was its' achillies heel. A couple hundred or so per would have helped. The basic design was there, just didn't have the Nads to get it done.

user="#12Wings"] kg4kgp, lookinn good. What kind of engines did the Havoc use?

According to Daveswarbirds.com it used Wright R-2600-23 with 1600 hp each.

Nice work guys', I think the Havoc had the Wright Cyclone 2600's. I'll have to check that as I have that A/C in my stash. Very cool aircraft designed by some of the best at that time.

I'll have some WIP pics soon, only have some glue ups as of yet.

kg4kgp,

lookinn good. What kind of engines did the Havoc use?

Here are some of my A-20 update shots.

Not going to bad I think.  A long way to go. 

Dr. Faust wrote:

Hey guys! I have a Italeri B-25 I just opened and started some glue up. Can I join? My first GB? Would love to build a model with some Bros. And exchange some insights and tips on the build process? I looked at some other GB's and I thought this one fits the B-25 pretty good. Looking thru the build log you guys are doing some mighty fine work. I'm in if it's OK?

Your IN!

Hey guys! I have a Italeri B-25 I just opened and started some glue up. Can I join? My first GB?

Would love to build a model with some Bros.

And exchange some insights and tips on the build process?

I looked at some other GB's and I thought this one fits the B-25 pretty good.

Looking thru the build log you guys are doing some mighty fine work.

I'm in if it's OK?

Update Time!

Here's the nose and the instrument panel:

Here is one of the props that still needs some silver paint chipping and the tires that I flattened with a file:

And finally here is the bomb bay that will be opened up. The big box in the back is a fuel tank that could be added to the aft bay. I didn't know what it looked like so I kinda imagined it up. The tank will be covered up:

These are the bay doors:

Thanks, all comments welcomed.

namrednef wrote:

Wings! Great progress! As you know I'm starting the same kit.......you scratch stuff in nice! The highlights of the nose gear bay are well done too! Those d@mned tubular seat legs always look too big to me, But what are you gonna do? I'm thinking of painting mine a shade of green with maybe a black accent to try and shrink their size to the eye. I'm off all next week and should have some WIP pics for the site! Edit!: Those guns look much better! Nice work! I felt they were short, but wasn't sure.

I thought you were building the Revell kit? Anyway, thanks for the input.

raider83 wrote:

Hey 12wings, I'm not part of this GB, but I have a suggestion on your pit.  the scratchbuilt stuff looks great.  But have you tried washes or drybrushing in there? That would make it look even better and really pop out the detail. Great work though so far

thanks,

I was thinking of doing that but kind of forgot about it and got caught up with the bomb bay. Thanks for reminding me.

Wings

That Cant Z.1007 has always been an eyecatcher for me. I have a set of RCR PE for it and Sky Decals set for Italian medium bombers so I have a good range of choices for it. This aircraft performed well but had an Achilles Heel. The wings were wooden which made it vulnerable to tracer ammo which would start fires easily. It was one of the bombers used heavily in the attacks upon Malta.

Mike T.

Wings! Great progress! As you know I'm starting the same kit.......you scratch stuff in nice! The highlights of the nose gear bay are well done too! Those d@mned tubular seat legs always look too big to me, But what are you gonna do?

I'm thinking of painting mine a shade of green with maybe a black accent to try and shrink their size to the eye.

I'm off all next week and should have some WIP pics for the site!

Edit!: Those guns look much better! Nice work! I felt they were short, but wasn't sure. 

Dave! It's moving along! When I had that type of wing root problem, I would glue in a piece of sheet styrene as a 'backing' before gluing the fuse together (That's if I thought to check that fit first!)

A backing will help avoid major putty shrinkage and make things easier on you.....if it's too late for that option......you must be patient.....feed some putty in with a toothpick and build it out slowly (a little blast of a primer paint will help keep shrinkage between putty coats, also). Once the putty is applied to a sanding stage.....careful shaping of the wing root with a triangular jeweler's file is best to start with.

 The file (careful file!) shouldn't mar the surroundings. You need to go slowly at this point until you get to a point where you can use a fine sanding stick or very fine wet sandpaper to finish off the joint.

Hope this helps! 

Hey Wings,

If its accepted, I'd like to switch my entry to an Italian IMAM Romeo 57bis.  The 57bis was a single seat bomber and carried one 500lb andtwo 250lb bombs.  It also had two 20mm cannons in the nose. I started it about a week ago, and didnt realize till now that its also a bomber.

telsono wrote:

I would like to join this GB. My subject would be the old Supermodel 1/72 Cant Z.1007 with the twin tails. Mike T.

Your on the list

Can't wait to see her finished. I looks like it will be an interesting model.

I would like to join this GB. My subject would be the old Supermodel 1/72 Cant Z.1007 with the twin tails.

Mike T.

Time for an update!

I've been working on the cockpit, scratchbuilding, painting and assembling. Here are some pics of the office before paint:

And with some paint:

The items higlighted in green are the scratchbuilt parts:

In the fuse:

This is the front landing gear bay. It was on the underside of the cockpit floor so I thought I'd show it off. Nothing on this was from scratch:

All comments welcomed.

FastasEF wrote:

Sweet! Thanks. I see some people were deciding between two planes to build, I being the same way. I also have a Monogram Dornier Do-217 E-5 waiting to be built. Decisions decisions ...

On wikipedia it says the Dornier is a heavy bomber, but since its specs are close to the guidelines for this GB I'll let you build it. Tell me if you want me to put it on the list.

Sweet! Thanks.

I see some people were deciding between two planes to build, I being the same way. I also have a Monogram Dornier Do-217 E-5 waiting to be built. Decisions decisions ...

Little bit late but i'll hop in once I finish my IJN/IJA GB model.

I'll be doing Revell-Germanys 1/48 B-26B/G Marauder

Alright y'all, status report....have some stuff together, canopies masked & painted...but a bit of an issue w/the wing roots....advice on how to remedy really appreciated.

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Wow, I suck at these picky thingys...anywho...the shadow there at the wingroot is a gap between the wing and the recessed outline molded into the fuselage for the wing...I need to know the best way to solve the problem.

I humbly bow to those that ahve the knowledge to fix it & await the solution.

Dave

Hey guys, I decided to redo the scratchbuilt dorsal turret. I didn't like how short the gun barrels looked, so I made some new ones. I also added an ammo belt. Here she is:

the ammo belts:

This one even moves up + down better than the original:

In the fuse.:

all comments welcomed, Thanks

kg4kpg wrote:

[quote user="#12Wings"]  kg4kpg wrote: Count me in for this build please.  I would like to do this kit I picked up for a buck the other day.  Monogram B-26 Invader.  On a side note, does anyone know if there is a 1/48 scale kit of this bird?  I would like to do a bigger one than this 1/72. I put you down for the invader but left the scale undetermined. Welcome Aboard! Okay, the little Invader kit is junk so it is out.  Will be good to practice using filler though.   So, I aquired an Italeri A-20G Havoc in 1/48 instead.  Who's a good source for photo-etch and detail sets?  Kit seems to have good reviews with just minor issues I think I can handle.

I put you down for the havoc.

On squadron.com they have some detail sets avaliable for the A-20- Scroll down to related Items:

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=IT2637

kg4kpg wrote:

Count me in for this build please.  I would like to do this kit I picked up for a buck the other day.  Monogram B-26 Invader.  On a side note, does anyone know if there is a 1/48 scale kit of this bird?  I would like to do a bigger one than this 1/72. I put you down for the invader but left the scale undetermined. Welcome Aboard!

  So, I aquired an Italeri A-20G Havoc in 1/48 instead.  Who's a good source for photo-etch and detail sets?  Kit seems to have good reviews with just minor issues I think I can handle.

On a side note, does anyone know if there is a 1/48 scale kit of this bird?

Monogram Pro-Modeler put one out 10-12 years ago but it's probably out of production now.  Maybe check the Revell of Germany releases, or EBay.  It's a great kit, one of the first I built when I got back into the hobby.

kg4kpg wrote:

Count me in for this build please.  I would like to do this kit I picked up for a buck the other day.  Monogram B-26 Invader.  On a side note, does anyone know if there is a 1/48 scale kit of this bird?  I would like to do a bigger one than this 1/72.

oh sorry I just had a flash back to my childhood, loved building that and the B 25 I am sure you can find a bigger one

kg4kpg wrote:

Count me in for this build please.  I would like to do this kit I picked up for a buck the other day.  Monogram B-26 Invader.  On a side note, does anyone know if there is a 1/48 scale kit of this bird?  I would like to do a bigger one than this 1/72.

I put you down for the invader but left the scale undetermined. Welcome Aboard!

Count me in for this build please.  I would like to do this kit I picked up for a buck the other day.  Monogram B-26 Invader.  On a side note, does anyone know if there is a 1/48 scale kit of this bird?  I would like to do a bigger one than this 1/72.

 12Wings" Dostacos, The mosquito will work fine. Do you know What the manfacturer and scale is?

just as soon as I buy it

Here's my scratchbuilt dorsal turret.

Look it moves!

in the plane:

Do you guys think the gun barrels are too short? I can always put some metal ones on it.

Thanks

dostacos wrote:

quote 12Wings Dostacos, The P-38 J droop snoot was a light bomber. It is very close to the specs for the group build. I'm really streching it here but I'll let you join. I will look for a medium bummer, and do the P 38 in the P 38 build. I was looking for a medium bummer when I spotted the P 38 it is different enough that I will use it there. how about the Mosquito? if not it will be a Revell B 26 in 1/72  since I don't have ANY of these yet no need to stretch the rules

Dostacos, The mosquito will work fine. Do you know What the manfacturer and scale is?

Dostacos, The P-38 J droop snoot was a light bomber. It is very close to the specs for the group build. I'm really streching it here but I'll let you join.

dostacos wrote:

so would a bomber version of the P 38 qualify? 2 man crew, 2000 pound payload over the same basic routes of a B 17. One would be converted with the norden called the "master bomber" if so I am in with the Dragon 1/72 P 38 bomba dear

Dostacos, The P-38 J droop snoot was a light bomber. It is very close to the specs for the group build. I'm really streching it here but I'll let you join.

so would a bomber version of the P 38 qualify? 2 man crew, 2000 pound payload over the same basic routes of a B 17. One would be converted with the norden called the "master bomber"

if so I am in with the Dragon 1/72 P 38 bomba dear 

namrednef wrote:

Thanks for the wishes #12! Felt much better this a.m. What I meant by a 'tag'.....was maybe a name for the CO of the GB......just a thought.....Things will pick up around here as kits progress. Besides, maybe Medium Bombers take longer than fighters!

Thanks, I'm still working on the interior of mine- getting lots of scratch building done. Man I wish they made a PE set for the Airfix Kit, guess it's too old of  kit.

-Marauder Man

Thanks for the wishes #12! Felt much better this a.m.

What I meant by a 'tag'.....was maybe a name for the CO of the GB......just a thought.....Things will pick up around here as kits progress. Besides, maybe Medium Bombers take longer than fighters!

Helloooooo??

Is anyone here???

Doolittle wrote:

Count me in for a Accurate Minitatures B25-B Doolittle Raider. This is my first group build. I am looking forward to it. Tom

Good! Can't wait to see the finished product. I know that in the Phillip Gore FSM article the interior was very detailed. It looks like a good model. My Airfix B-26 on the other hand...

Count me in for a Accurate Minitatures B25-B Doolittle Raider. This is my first group build. I am looking forward to it.

Tom 

viper_mp wrote:

#12, you can put me down for sure with the Revell Classic B-25 Mitchell   Side bar:  does the B-17G qualify for "medium bomber" status?

Great,

I think the B-17 was considered more of a heavy bomber than a medium bomber.

Raptor, I think the BF-110 was considered more of a heavy fighter than a bomber, kind of like a P-38. Sorry about that.

#12, you can put me down for sure with the Revell Classic B-25 Mitchell

Side bar:  does the B-17G qualify for "medium bomber" status?

12 wings I have somthing that might qualify. I just picked up a 1/48 Fujimi Bf-110 D on sale. I am going to do the verson that carries bombs. If that works great.

Here is a great walkaround reference. This website is good for most any kind of plane, tank, ship, etc. If you look under Props at the right you should find your plane:

http://www.primeportal.net/the_airstrip.htm

I guess the new badge is official.

I opened up  my B-26 today (got it in the mail) and saw there are raised panel lines on the fuselage. Do you guys have any tips for me to scribe them? Also i found that there is a lot of detail on the bulkheads and engines, but not much detail in other places. Do you guys know of any detail sets or good references so I can scratch build?

I second the motion.

Very Nice #12!

If the others concur, go for it! 

Hows this look?

The photo itself is way cool!......Perhaps if you could print "WWII Medium Bomber" across the wings......and add "G B" over the stabilizers.....the contrast would make even smaller font easier to read.

One the other hand.....I knew what it said without having to really read it....so I'm happy with the original. 

Hartmann352 wrote:

#12...put me down for a B-25, please. Nothing fancy here everybody...still wirking my way up the skill ladder...OOB, "Jaunty Joe" Thanks, Dave.  WOOOHOOO. I'm in my second GB.....

Hartmann325, this is my first GB and I was the one to organize it! LOL

#12...put me down for a B-25, please. Nothing fancy here everybody...still wirking my way up the skill ladder...OOB, "Jaunty Joe"

Thanks, Dave.

 WOOOHOOO. I'm in my second GB.....

I got those two kits A and B.

Mirage Hobby made those as short runs. Out of production for some time. Those may be available somewhere at LHS but squadron does not have them anymore.  The kit has a lot of aftermarket parts and i am going to get all available including engine details.

I saw one very bad review of this kit made by Swanny but to build this kit you have to dedicate your hearth to it otherwise it will be a struggle. 

I saw absolutely fantastic builds of this kit and I wish I can make something like that.

This model was made by Maciek Zywczyk

GZT where did you get that kit?????

I've seen that pic somewhere before......awesome greenhouse nose on that babe! 

half of the B-25 weight and same bomb load and almost the same speed with half of the engine power this must be good enough , isn't it ?

gzt, that looks good for the GB. I'll put your name on the list.

I may join with PZL-37 A or B

 according to the requirements this one may qualify

Specifications (PZL.37B Łoś)

General characteristics

• Crew: 4
• Length: 12.92 m (42 ft 5 in)
• Wingspan: 17.93 m (58 ft 10 in)
• Height: 5.1 m (16 ft 9 in)
• Wing area: 53.5 m² (576 ft²)
• Empty weight: 4,935 kg (10,880 lb)
• Loaded weight: 8,880 kg (19,580 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 9,105 kg (20,070 lb)
• Powerplant: 2× Bristol Pegasus XX radial engines, 723 kW (970 hp) each

Performance

• Maximum speed: 412 km/h (256 mph)
• Range: 2,600 km (1,600 miles)
  
• Service ceiling 7,000 m (23,000 ft)
• Rate of climb: 4.7 m/s (925 ft/min)
• Wing loading: 166 kg/m² (34 lb/ft²)

Armament

• 3 x 7.92 mm machine guns: 1 in the nose, 1 in the rear upper station, 1 in underbelly station
• Up to 2,580 kg (5,690 lb) of bombs

 I will make a 1/48 Mirage Hobby kit

Count me in with an Accurate Miniatures B-25B Doolittle Raider.  I also have the old Monogram B-26 that I may try to squeeze in for this build, but for certain the Raider.

namrednef wrote:

Oh! BTW....my B-26 is the old Revell. Cold up there #12? My daughter lives in Watertown. I've been buying her heating oil all winter long!

It actually isn't too bad.(I've probably gotten used to it) We've kinda had a mild season.

Oh! BTW....my B-26 is the old Revell.

Cold up there #12? My daughter lives in Watertown. I've been buying her heating oil all winter long! 

Above which the B-17 barely scrapes; Generally 5,000 lb over 2,000 miles.

arki30 wrote:

So, what defines a medium bombload?  What constitutes a medium distance?

The medium bomber was generally considered to be any design that delivered about 4,000 lb (1.8 t) over ranges of about 1,500 to 2,000 miles (2,400 to 3,200 km).

I'd recommend taking a look at the front page of other GB's and reformating your first post.

Timeline?  Guidelines or rules?  What defines a medium bomber?  OOB or AM allowed?  Scale allowed?  Etc. etc.

If this get's off the ground, I'll jump in....AC TBD.